Right back options

[Delphinho]

Just use Savio as back up RB

Goodness me, I still can’t understand if you’re serious or just a troll

 

[richards30]

Goodness me, I still can’t understand if you’re serious or just a troll

He`s a fucking clown mate.

 

[simon23]

I'd rather have khusonov at full back than any of the other options...however, he can't play the overlapping full back bit. Not sure how good he is st present at stepping into midfield either....which is why Pep probably won't do it

 

[richards30]

I'd rather have khusonov at full back than any of the other options...however, he can't play the overlapping full back bit. Not sure how good he is st present at stepping into midfield either....which is why Pep probably won't do it

But we need to just be more defensively solid and let the likes of Cherki, Foden, Doku, Marmoush etc do the attacking stuff now? The full back stepping in etc has been worked out hence why we get counter attacked to death on.

 

[decmancity]

Surely Ait Nouri signing signals the change in our setup, he will play as the highest defender in the team meaning we need the other three to be back.

 

[Cobwebcat]

We had a decent right back in Pedro Porro but sold him.

There really aren’t many about and I still think Lewis will be much better in a functioning team than most of what is available. He was really good before the whole team fell apart and is still developing. Maybe he doesn’t suit the system Pep wants to play but he is clearly a talent.

 

[JewelZee]

Nunes has his faults as a right back.
Lack of pace is not one

It all depends on what Pep asks him to do. If he's asked to bomb forward then of course there will be some vulnerability. Pace is not only NOT a fault but a big strength. Apparently, he was clocked at the 2nd fastest in game speed in the Prem last season behind only Van Der Ven of Spurs...

 

[simon23]

But we need to just be more defensively solid and let the likes of Cherki, Foden, Doku, Marmoush etc do the attacking stuff now? The full back stepping in etc has been worked out hence why we get counter attacked to death on.

Thats the way Pep plays...he overloads the midfield by using his fullbacks and centre halves. while walker was there it didnt matter as his pace covered in behind - therefore our centre halves had cover as well even on the opposite side of the pitch as walker was so fast he could cover across the middle and even onto the left fullback position at times.

Khusonov while not quite as fast is also rapid and can probably do the same keeping in mind he has better concentration that Walker (one of his major flaws) which means he reads the game better than walker did and wouldnt have to use his pace to get out of trouble and his anticipation is therefore better as well.

It hasnt been worked out. It stopped working cause Walker fell off a cliff and we had to put players there that were not capable of playing it (Lewis and Nunes) and despite Nunes having pace he is woeful at the defensive side. Lewis can play the passing role well - its just he is easily physically bullied off the ball and has zero pace to recover when he gets beaten - walker had neither of these problems

Go back and watch Khusonov in his appearances - watch how he covers in behind - again even into the middle of the pitch and in behind the fullback position. - he made the odd mistake which is normal for a defender but he certainly defended well at times. The bit he cant do is play the overlapping fullback role...and maybe the bit he needs to learn is how to step into the midfield area (though if you play him instead of Dias he doesnt necessarily have to do this as Gvardiol can do it) and Khusonov can also cover in behind Nunes at fullback whenhe pushes forward - basically instead of Walker being the last man defensively at fullback you now have Khusonov whether thats at full back or centre half.....bit harder froma central position as he has more to concentrate on and a bigger area to cover potentially.

 

[richards30]

Thats the way Pep plays...he overloads the midfield by using his fullbacks and centre halves. while walker was there it didnt matter as his pace covered in behind - therefore our centre halves had cover as well even on the opposite side of the pitch as walker was so fast he could cover across the middle and even onto the left fullback position at times.

Khusonov while not quite as fast is also rapid and can probably do the same keeping in mind he has better concentration that Walker (one of his major flaws) which means he reads the game better than walker did and wouldnt have to use his pace to get out of trouble and his anticipation is therefore better as well.

It hasnt been worked out. It stopped working cause Walker fell off a cliff and we had to put players there that were not capable of playing it (Lewis and Nunes) and despite Nunes having pace he is woeful at the defensive side. Lewis can play the passing role well - its just he is easily physically bullied off the ball and has zero pace to recover when he gets beaten - walker had neither of these problems

Go back and watch Khusonov in his appearances - watch how he covers in behind - again even into the middle of the pitch and in behind the fullback position. - he made the odd mistake which is normal for a defender but he certainly defended well at times. The bit he cant do is play the overlapping fullback role...and maybe the bit he needs to learn is how to step into the midfield area (though if you play him instead of Dias he doesnt necessarily have to do this as Gvardiol can do it) and Khusonov can also cover in behind Nunes at fullback whenhe pushes forward - basically instead of Walker being the last man defensively at fullback you now have Khusonov whether thats at full back or centre half.....bit harder froma central position as he has more to concentrate on and a bigger area to cover potentially.

I want Khus there mate but Pep just isnt going to do it is he?

 

[simon23]

I want Khus there mate but Pep just isnt going to do it is he?

Probably not no

 

[Marvin.]

But Nunes is still a midfielder not a full back. I would be disappointed if Khusanov wasn’t played at FB, if we don’t buy one. He had Vini in his pocket against Real. Vini said Khusanov would become the best defender in the PL. What more can you ask for?

I am already convinced Khusanov can defend but we don't know what he's like on the ball. Nunes came to City as a midfielder but he played well in the right back position last season.

 

[simon23]

I am already convinced Khusanov can defend but we don't know what he's like on the ball. Nunes came to City as a midfielder but he played well in the right back position last season.

This is why I dont think Pep will play Khusonov at fullback

I dont know if anyone noticed when Khusonov did play - how hard he hit his passes towards their intended target...even Bernardo had trouble at times controlling Khusonovs passes into him....I think this is an area where Pep will want to see improvement before he gets established in the team

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

I am already convinced Khusanov can defend but we don't know what he's like on the ball. Nunes came to City as a midfielder but he played well in the right back position last season.

I couldn't care less what he's like on the ball. From what I've seen so far he's a proper defender and thinks like a defender. He's also rapid so he's good enough foe me.

 

[JewelZee]

Thats the way Pep plays...he overloads the midfield by using his fullbacks and centre halves. while walker was there it didnt matter as his pace covered in behind - therefore our centre halves had cover as well even on the opposite side of the pitch as walker was so fast he could cover across the middle and even onto the left fullback position at times.

Khusonov while not quite as fast is also rapid and can probably do the same keeping in mind he has better concentration that Walker (one of his major flaws) which means he reads the game better than walker did and wouldnt have to use his pace to get out of trouble and his anticipation is therefore better as well.

It hasnt been worked out. It stopped working cause Walker fell off a cliff and we had to put players there that were not capable of playing it (Lewis and Nunes) and despite Nunes having pace he is woeful at the defensive side. Lewis can play the passing role well - its just he is easily physically bullied off the ball and has zero pace to recover when he gets beaten - walker had neither of these problems

Go back and watch Khusonov in his appearances - watch how he covers in behind - again even into the middle of the pitch and in behind the fullback position. - he made the odd mistake which is normal for a defender but he certainly defended well at times. The bit he cant do is play the overlapping fullback role...and maybe the bit he needs to learn is how to step into the midfield area (though if you play him instead of Dias he doesnt necessarily have to do this as Gvardiol can do it) and Khusonov can also cover in behind Nunes at fullback whenhe pushes forward - basically instead of Walker being the last man defensively at fullback you now have Khusonov whether thats at full back or centre half.....bit harder froma central position as he has more to concentrate on and a bigger area to cover potentially.

Bro ya can't say Nunes is woeful at the defensive side. That's simply not true. He's just learning the position but he's already miles ahead of Rico defensively. Is he an answer? Can't say, but if he's able to understand where he is on the pitch tactically it should allow him to stop making those ill conceived diagonal back passes. As far as he has pace, he has more than pace. People complain about Doku and Savinho's end product. Well Nunes was joint leader in assists by a RB in the Prem. And he didn't play there nearly as much as the RBs on other squads. I'm not counting his output at LW. He can carry the ball down the touchline successfully at pace. Most won't agree with me on this but Nunes has many more positive attributes for an attacking FB than negative ones. There is the possibility that Pep will strike gold with Nunes.
BTW, I love Khusonov...

 

[Master-Lotus]

We must get Livramento immediately. We need him and it would make Isak to Liverpool even more unrealistic.

 

[Ste68]

I couldn't care less what he's like on the ball. From what I've seen so far he's a proper defender and thinks like a defender. He's also rapid so he's good enough foe me.

My only worry on Khusanov is does he know when not to attempt a tackle. As have said before he has all the attributes you want from a no nonsense defender , fantastic pace and I think he is a decent passer but suspect we will have to bare with him when he makes the odd rash challenge rather than jockey a player out of the danger area. That said same issue with Nunes when he first played there and some of his passing was poor for a midfielder when playing at full back.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

That will only come with experience. Hence, he needs to play.

 

[simon23]

Bro ya can't say Nunes is woeful at the defensive side. That's simply not true. He's just learning the position but he's already miles ahead of Rico defensively. Is he an answer? Can't say, but if he's able to understand where he is on the pitch tactically it should allow him to stop making those ill conceived diagonal back passes. As far as he has pace, he has more than pace. People complain about Doku and Savinho's end product. Well Nunes was joint leader in assists by a RB in the Prem. And he didn't play there nearly as much as the RBs on other squads. I'm not counting his output at LW. He can carry the ball down the touchline successfully at pace. Most won't agree with me on this but Nunes has many more positive attributes for an attacking FB than negative ones. There is the possibility that Pep will strike gold with Nunes.
BTW, I love Khusonov...

Never said anything about him lacking pace
He is weak in the tackle...that comes from mentality. Comparing him to Rico Lewis does your argument no favours...he ain't good enough either at right back.
I've said tge reason Nunes will pkay there is his better attacking ability.

His positive attributes as am attacking fullback aren't an issue...its his lack of defensive ability that is combined with that it means that Dias who is tge right sided centre back is then isolated cause Nunes positionally isn't great and likes to attack and his recovery runs while having the pace to get there are weak and back conviction to either get back goalside or put in an effective tackle

 

[falcon117]

not signing right back is huge mistake.

 

[blueparrot]

not signing right back is huge mistake.

So you think we should give a stop gap right back a 5 year contract then not be able to get the right one when available because we don’t have the squad room, and a player on a contract we can’t shift. Have you learnt nothing from Phillips etc?