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We play them at Old Toilet for our opening game - it's vital we get their season off to a disappointing start to crush any hopes they might have had.

Hope Zubimendi kicks Bruno in the balls
Just make sure you absolutely annihilate the cunts. I truly want to see them humiliated in their own back yard in front of all three of their Manc-based fans. I want to see Amoron with his head in his hands, wishing the ground would open up and deep throat him.
I want to see double figures going past whoever they have in goal, and when the ref blows the full time whistle to save them from any further embarrassment, and then I want to see Slimy Stone and his cronies desperately trying to convince everyone it wasn't that bad a hammering - and failing.
 
From memory I thought that the idea was for Freightliner to merge two sites into one new one at the old Parkside colliery at Newton-le-Willows. I assume they were happy to do this on the proviso it was beneficial to their business. As the idea initially was only about improving rail freight connections around the country, FL are obviously happy to stay put if the numbers don’t add up for them.
And scruffy Jim and the rags have a ready-made excuse for not proceeding with their big top.

Actually, make that two excuses:

1. We couldn’t afford the price for the land.
Or
2. We didn’t feel the land justified the asking price.

That will keep the horrible hoardes at bay for a while longer, believing that rag central really did intend to build their pie-in-the-sky circus tent, but were thwarted by circumstances out of their control.
 
Just make sure you absolutely annihilate the cunts. I truly want to see them humiliated in their own back yard in front of all three of their Manc-based fans. I want to see Amoron with his head in his hands, wishing the ground would open up and deep throat him.
I want to see double figures going past whoever they have in goal, and when the ref blows the full time whistle to save them from any further embarrassment, and then I want to see Slimy Stone and his cronies desperately trying to convince everyone it wasn't that bad a hammering - and failing.
It's Arsenal. We'll 'humiliate' them 1-0 (Gabriel from a corner).
 
I agree 100%. I work with rags and they’re convinced this fella is the new Haaland and they’re up for a title charge this season. Delusional doesn’t cover it
A famous man once said: "forgive them Father, for they know not what they do"

The rags are no different. They know not what they do or who they are anymore.

Now... I'm not suggesting for one minute that you forgive them; because they're a bunch of self-entitled pricks, and that bastard banner of theirs (don't get me started).

However, they don't get it - none of it makes sense to them. How can it?

This wasn't supposed to happen to them. They're the ones usually taking the piss out of other big teams that find themselves finishing 15th in the Premier League.

The news outlets don't help them either. The media in this country have spent the last twelve years blowing that much smoke up their arse, it's a wonder your rag colleagues don't expect to win the champions league this season too.

Yes.

They are deluded, and I would imagine that over the next twelve years we'll hear less and less of their ramblings. They'll be a few hard-core fans left, screaming at the moon but if you ignore them, the chances are they'll leave you alone.
 
Just make sure you absolutely annihilate the cunts. I truly want to see them humiliated in their own back yard in front of all three of their Manc-based fans. I want to see Amoron with his head in his hands, wishing the ground would open up and deep throat him.
I want to see double figures going past whoever they have in goal, and when the ref blows the full time whistle to save them from any further embarrassment, and then I want to see Slimy Stone and his cronies desperately trying to convince everyone it wasn't that bad a hammering - and failing.
I, for one, don’t want to see a team score ten or more goals in one game.

The last time this feat was achieved was on 7/11/87 at Maine Road, Manchester, and I’d hate to see our place in the history books sullied.
 
After finishing 15th, all hopes are placed on blowing big money on an unproven, 6’5”, 22 year old striker from a lesser league.

Sesko? Hmm, it could be but..

Nope, it’s 2006 and a big welcome to Giorgios Samaras!

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
 
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Not sarcasm mate, they have overpaid for their new signings but Sesko is far better than Hojlund?
That's hardly an endorsement.

Hojlund has got the footwork of Douglas Bader.

You'd be hard pushed to find someone worse than Hojlund.

You do know he only scored four goals last season?

....... actually, do you know what?

You had me for a minute - your sarcasm is genius.
 
That's hardly an endorsement.

Hojlund has got the footwork of Douglas Bader.

You'd be hard pushed to find someone worse than Hojlund.

You do know he only scored four goals last season?

....... actually, do you know what?

You had me for a minute - your sarcasm is genius.
the new fella only scored 13 to be fair, so yeah he is a good goal scorer for an attacking midfielder
 
I've just read David Bernsteins book and he mentioned utd.
He said that the way they spend money and the way the media reports on them he calls it from a nostalgia angle. They don't think they are in the present day, they still think they are the rags of the 90s and noughties.

Makes perfect sense. The Premier League treat them like its 25 years ago, they still operate like they think it is, the press still think it's the days of taggart, they are well and truly stuck in the past.

As are their thick mardarse bellend fans.
 
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Lest We Forget - ‘A tax exile’s half-baked misbegotten scheme’​

The Blackley and Middleton South MP (and United fan) writes on Ratcliffe and Co’s proposals for the stadium and surrounding area -

Labour’s Andy Burnham claims to be confident of financial support from Labour’s Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel Reeves, for the so-called “New Trafford”. This is the proposal to replace Manchester United’s 115 years old ground with a new state of the art, £2 billion stadium on the land of an adjacent rail freight hub.

No Manchester United fan or Labour politician should support these plans. I am both, and believe the proposals are an ill-thought-out concept and wrong in principle.

Where the real problem rests.

United’s problem is not the stadium, which has the largest capacity of any club stadium in the country, it is United’s failure to win sufficient games in the stadium. This is partly the consequence of the loss of focus on the key United product, football, and the poor recruitment of players. Commercial deals are vital, but they have become more important than the football.

According to the Financial Times, Manchester United’s marquee signings lose more value and faster than any other European football club. They are also less productive playing for a smaller percentage of time than other clubs’ major signings. Angel Di Maria, who United bought for £59.7 million in 2014, a British club record at the time, only played for 8% of the available time.

A new stadium will not improve the team, in fact history shows many teams moving into new grounds have a dip in form. This point was put to me succinctly while standing on the terraces at Hillsborough in the 1960s. This ground was considered one of the best in the country at the time, having invested in a large modern cantilever stand. It was regularly chosen for FA Cup semi-finals. A typically dour Yorkshireman seeing his side trailing to United, said “I’m still waiting for the bloody new cantilever stand to score a goal.”

Am I the only person to think there is a distinctly fishy smell when the part owner of United predicts imminent bankruptcy while simultaneously launching an ill-defined scheme costing £2 billion.

What don’t we know?

Some supporters suspect that New Trafford will not be owned by United but leased back from new owners (the current ground is 100% owned by United). Selling the naming rights for the stadium would be extremely lucrative as would building housing on the site of the current stadium and its environs.

Before embarking on a regeneration project, it is usual for viability and impact studies to be undertaken, not in this case. The proposals are as transparent as a block of lead and raise many questions. Inevitably the rail freight terminal would have to be moved to St Helens. Are we really in the business of moving jobs to Merseyside? I think not.

It is also rumoured that the new stadium would be prefabricated abroad and sailed up the Ship Canal and assembled. Few Manchester jobs would be created.

Unsubstantiated Claims


Unsubstantiated claims are that moving the freight would ease congestion at Manchester Piccadilly, but alternatives for potentially £300 million of public subsidy are not being considered. Maybe investment in digital signalling or investment in Platforms 15 and 16 would be more effective.

Alternative uses of public funds.

But this is typical of this scheme, where alternatives for better use of the money have been ignored.

If new homes are to be built, surely better to go with regeneration schemes whose viability has been proved. Holt Town and Victoria North would be more productive sites and help Angela Rayner hit her 1.5 million housing targets. It appears some local politicians have been bewitched by the proximity of football celebrity and lost their common sense.

On a personal note, I find deep irony in the current situation. It could have been avoided if United had accepted an offer from Manchester City Council when we were planning the 2002 Commonwealth Games. We were determined that the Games’ stadium would not become a white elephant. Our plan was to be able to convert the Games’ venue into an 80,000+ replacement or competitor for Wembley. United were the only club with sufficient support to make this viable. I had meetings with Roland Smith, who then chaired United’s board. He rejected the offer.

There were then meetings with City, who bit our hand off. Given City’s smaller fan base, the size of the ground had to be reduced but City’s new home in a state-of-the-art stadium made them attractive to first Thaksin Shinawatra and then to the Abu Dhabi United Group, effectively the Abu Dhabi state. This and the subsequent investment in the team has led to City’s recent spectacular success and then improvements in the ground. Irony or what?!

Coe

Incidentally, what is Sebastian Coe doing anywhere near a Manchester project? Does nobody remember his assault and undermining of Manchester’s bid for investment and the Olympic Games? Somebody should dig out his anti-Manchester quotes and buy him a one-way ticket back to London.

Reeves

When Rachel Reeves announced her new determination to grow the economy with investment in infrastructure there was no surprise that the major schemes were in the south: the Lower Thames Crossing, Heathrow and the Cambridge-Oxford corridor. She also rather embarrassingly claimed no new runways had been built in the country since 1945. Yet her Leeds constituency has jobs dependent on the success of Manchester Airport, which of course built a new runway at the start of this century. Like a drowning person, she is clutching for any straw to save her face as a Northern MP. New Trafford is not that straw.

Obscene

It would be politically obscene when the government is considering cuts to benefits and services to some of the poorest people in the country to present a cheque of hundreds of millions of pounds to a tax exile’s half-baked misbegotten scheme. Sir Jim Ratcliffe could replace the subsidy from public funds he is seeking from the money he doesn’t pay in British taxes. I doubt he would notice it.
 
Well the snake Berrada reckons they are working on another 3 signings so i`m assuming they will bring some players in to them areas as well.
Have they received another Covid 'drop' from Masters?
 
Am I the only person to think there is a distinctly fishy smell when the part owner of United predicts imminent bankruptcy while simultaneously launching an ill-defined scheme costing £2 billion.
No, you're not the only one. Myself and pretty much everyone I have spoken to (including a few rags, oddly enough) echo those sentiments verbatim.
£2 billion, when the club are laying off staff to save money? Either 'Mr 27%' is pulling a fast one or he's suffering with some bizarre mental issue - or both. Either way talk of a new cutting edge stadium for the rags is just pie in the sky - sports.
 

Lest We Forget - ‘A tax exile’s half-baked misbegotten scheme’​

The Blackley and Middleton South MP (and United fan) writes on Ratcliffe and Co’s proposals for the stadium and surrounding area -

Labour’s Andy Burnham claims to be confident of financial support from Labour’s Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel Reeves, for the so-called “New Trafford”. This is the proposal to replace Manchester United’s 115 years old ground with a new state of the art, £2 billion stadium on the land of an adjacent rail freight hub.

No Manchester United fan or Labour politician should support these plans. I am both, and believe the proposals are an ill-thought-out concept and wrong in principle.

Where the real problem rests.

United’s problem is not the stadium, which has the largest capacity of any club stadium in the country, it is United’s failure to win sufficient games in the stadium. This is partly the consequence of the loss of focus on the key United product, football, and the poor recruitment of players. Commercial deals are vital, but they have become more important than the football.

According to the Financial Times, Manchester United’s marquee signings lose more value and faster than any other European football club. They are also less productive playing for a smaller percentage of time than other clubs’ major signings. Angel Di Maria, who United bought for £59.7 million in 2014, a British club record at the time, only played for 8% of the available time.

A new stadium will not improve the team, in fact history shows many teams moving into new grounds have a dip in form. This point was put to me succinctly while standing on the terraces at Hillsborough in the 1960s. This ground was considered one of the best in the country at the time, having invested in a large modern cantilever stand. It was regularly chosen for FA Cup semi-finals. A typically dour Yorkshireman seeing his side trailing to United, said “I’m still waiting for the bloody new cantilever stand to score a goal.”

Am I the only person to think there is a distinctly fishy smell when the part owner of United predicts imminent bankruptcy while simultaneously launching an ill-defined scheme costing £2 billion.

What don’t we know?

Some supporters suspect that New Trafford will not be owned by United but leased back from new owners (the current ground is 100% owned by United). Selling the naming rights for the stadium would be extremely lucrative as would building housing on the site of the current stadium and its environs.

Before embarking on a regeneration project, it is usual for viability and impact studies to be undertaken, not in this case. The proposals are as transparent as a block of lead and raise many questions. Inevitably the rail freight terminal would have to be moved to St Helens. Are we really in the business of moving jobs to Merseyside? I think not.

It is also rumoured that the new stadium would be prefabricated abroad and sailed up the Ship Canal and assembled. Few Manchester jobs would be created.

Unsubstantiated Claims

Unsubstantiated claims are that moving the freight would ease congestion at Manchester Piccadilly, but alternatives for potentially £300 million of public subsidy are not being considered. Maybe investment in digital signalling or investment in Platforms 15 and 16 would be more effective.

Alternative uses of public funds.

But this is typical of this scheme, where alternatives for better use of the money have been ignored.

If new homes are to be built, surely better to go with regeneration schemes whose viability has been proved. Holt Town and Victoria North would be more productive sites and help Angela Rayner hit her 1.5 million housing targets. It appears some local politicians have been bewitched by the proximity of football celebrity and lost their common sense.

On a personal note, I find deep irony in the current situation. It could have been avoided if United had accepted an offer from Manchester City Council when we were planning the 2002 Commonwealth Games. We were determined that the Games’ stadium would not become a white elephant. Our plan was to be able to convert the Games’ venue into an 80,000+ replacement or competitor for Wembley. United were the only club with sufficient support to make this viable. I had meetings with Roland Smith, who then chaired United’s board. He rejected the offer.

There were then meetings with City, who bit our hand off. Given City’s smaller fan base, the size of the ground had to be reduced but City’s new home in a state-of-the-art stadium made them attractive to first Thaksin Shinawatra and then to the Abu Dhabi United Group, effectively the Abu Dhabi state. This and the subsequent investment in the team has led to City’s recent spectacular success and then improvements in the ground. Irony or what?!

Coe

Incidentally, what is Sebastian Coe doing anywhere near a Manchester project? Does nobody remember his assault and undermining of Manchester’s bid for investment and the Olympic Games? Somebody should dig out his anti-Manchester quotes and buy him a one-way ticket back to London.

Reeves

When Rachel Reeves announced her new determination to grow the economy with investment in infrastructure there was no surprise that the major schemes were in the south: the Lower Thames Crossing, Heathrow and the Cambridge-Oxford corridor. She also rather embarrassingly claimed no new runways had been built in the country since 1945. Yet her Leeds constituency has jobs dependent on the success of Manchester Airport, which of course built a new runway at the start of this century. Like a drowning person, she is clutching for any straw to save her face as a Northern MP. New Trafford is not that straw.

Obscene

It would be politically obscene when the government is considering cuts to benefits and services to some of the poorest people in the country to present a cheque of hundreds of millions of pounds to a tax exile’s half-baked misbegotten scheme. Sir Jim Ratcliffe could replace the subsidy from public funds he is seeking from the money he doesn’t pay in British taxes. I doubt he would notice it.
Are them quotes real or has someone made it up for shits and giggles?

Amazing how these wanker red politicians can get their little mardarse remarks in when trying to talk seriously.
Get to fuck you absolute melt.
 

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