The Album Review Club - Week #195 (page 1310) - A New World Record - ELO

Gorilla Manor by Local Natives is a frustrating album which I'm likely to be doing a disservice to as the little I've read about them online suggests I'm not quite getting something. I think this is perhaps a result of me being an old, miserable, cynical brit and this is a positive and sincere album which leaves me ultimately unmoved. Having said that plenty of people are saying that it is an an emotional album and there are certainly moments that are meant to move me. I've previously mentioned i'm devoid of subtlety though so need really obvious and melodramatic movements and this album is perhaps a little restrained for my taste. So in summary it's not them it's me.

Local Natives seem like nice sweet boys. Airplanes was written by the keyboard player about the grandad he never met but wishes he could have as his father shares stories about what he was like. It's nice and sweet but i have a dark heart and I wanted to have the grandfather revealed as a war criminal or something. Wild Eyes should have the boy in the folds of the tree eaten by wild animals. I mentioned earlier in conversation with @Black&White&BlueMoon Town that I preferred World News when I thought the main characters brother had been killed in a terrorist bomb. I'm obviously a terrible person but i needed more drama and conflict from this album.

Having said that I think the album could also benefit from a lighter touch. I'm not sure exactly how to articulate this but if you compare their cover of Warning Sign to the Talking Heads version you'll see that the original has more space and a bit of a bounce. The album that instantly came to mind reviewing this one was Robbers and Cowards by Cold War Kids which I think shares many similarities in it's sincerity and delivery. Robbers and Cowards by contrast is both heavier and lighter in a way i don't have the words to explain. Camera Talk is another touch stone for me - it's got a big Vampire Weekend vibe but feels less agile in some way. I realise I'm making little sense.

There are a couple of moments where it got a little heavier such as the last minute of Shape Shifter (which has a darker tone) which I enjoyed but they repeat the trick a couple of times. The vocal delivery also has a distinctive flavour which i would describe as having an unbalanced amount of syllables. It's not unpleasant but it does get repetitive (interesting that I am objecting to a vocal delivery choice when I defended English Teacher so much).

So in summary I think we make a quick judgement on something and then spend some time rationally trying to justify a purely irrational instinctive decision. I can't take to it because the moon is in venus or something. Similar to the Greenleaf nomination I think these guys are a good band but it's just not for me - 6
 
Having said that I think the album could also benefit from a lighter touch. I'm not sure exactly how to articulate this but if you compare their cover of Warning Sign to the Talking Heads version you'll see that the original has more space and a bit of a bounce. The album that instantly came to mind reviewing this one was Robbers and Cowards by Cold War Kids which I think shares many similarities in it's sincerity and delivery. Robbers and Cowards by contrast is both heavier and lighter in a way i don't have the words to explain. Camera Talk is another touch stone for me - it's got a big Vampire Weekend vibe but feels less agile in some way. I realise I'm making little sense.
I actually saw Cold War Kids in 2024 as well as an opener for Tears For Fears, and I hadn't thought about how similar they were to Local Natives, but you're right there, especially on the percussion approach and piano driven songs. They played "Hang Me Up To Dry" and "Hospital Beds" from the album you referenced.
So in summary I think we make a quick judgement on something and then spend some time rationally trying to justify a purely irrational instinctive decision. I can't take to it because the moon is in venus or something. Similar to the Greenleaf nomination I think these guys are a good band but it's just not for me - 6
Somewhere, Gary Clark Jr. and his high water mark of 7 is whispering to me "I told'ya so!". ;-)

I think we like what we like, and I knew this album would be challenging for some, but after English Teacher, I figured it might have a shot here. All good, and thanks for listening!
 
I actually saw Cold War Kids in 2024 as well as an opener for Tears For Fears, and I hadn't thought about how similar they were to Local Natives, but you're right there, especially on the percussion approach and piano driven songs. They played "Hang Me Up To Dry" and "Hospital Beds" from the album you referenced.

Somewhere, Gary Clark Jr. and his high water mark of 7 is whispering to me "I told'ya so!". ;-)

I think we like what we like, and I knew this album would be challenging for some, but after English Teacher, I figured it might have a shot here. All good, and thanks for listening!
Ha I was thinking about him as I wrote the review as I read similar things about the emotional weight of both that I wasn't feeling as I was listening. By comparison Gary Clark Jr is rawer than this but i needed more melodrama and intensity from both.

I know Airplanes is written about the keys player's grandad but it does feel like some are written based on writing prompts rather than real feelings or experiences but that is purely subjective. Which is kind of my point - i'm trying to make something irrational make sense.

The first two CWK's albums are better than Gorilla Moon BUT this is better than any subsequent CWK's albums in my opinion. I might check out their second if coatigan thinks it's better.

Again I didn't dislike the album. It's certainly listenable but it just wont make a return after this week :)
 
Because I happened to be doing something else I thought I'd ask chatgpt to write me a review for a British and male audience. This is what it came up with

Right, cards on the table—I had a bit of a moment to Gorilla Manor the other night. There I was, elbow-deep in washing up, listening to “Airplanes,” and suddenly I’m blinking suspiciously at the kitchen window like it’s got dust in my eyes. It didn’t. I was just… you know… feeling things. Grim.

Local Natives, for those unfamiliar, are a bunch of Americans who clearly grew up harmonising around a campfire and crying about sunsets. Their debut album, Gorilla Manor, came out in 2009 (which I refuse to believe was more than a decade ago, because that makes me feel aggressively ancient), and it’s still unreasonably brilliant.

The sound? Imagine if Fleet Foxes stopped faffing about in the woods and decided to write songs you could actually move to. Then throw in some jittery drums, beautiful harmonies, and lyrics that hit like a surprise breakup text from someone you thought was happy. That’s Gorilla Manor.

“Sun Hands” is probably the standout—starts off all dreamy and floaty, and then absolutely kicks off halfway through. It's like they bottle up all their anxiety and let it explode in a burst of drums and yelling. I’ve never wanted to run through a field in slow motion more. Embarrassing, really.

And don’t get me started on the percussion. Every track sounds like the drummer had three coffees and unresolved emotional baggage. It's relentless in the best way—makes you wish your own inner monologue had a rhythm section.

Lyrically, they walk that fine line between cryptic and “hang on, are they talking about me?” Which is annoying, frankly. “Who Knows Who Cares” is the kind of existential advice I’ve paid actual money to hear in therapy, and here it is casually being sung by a bunch of softly spoken Californians with immaculate hair.

If I’ve got one gripe, it’s that the album does start to blur a bit. Not in a bad way—more like a warm pint after a long day. You know you’ve had too much but you’re not mad about it. Everything’s layered, textured, and drenched in reverb. It’s gorgeous, but not exactly one for your mate who prefers “a bit of edge, you know?”

Still, Gorilla Manor is the kind of album that sneaks up on you. One minute you’re just putting it on in the background while tidying up, next thing you know you’re staring out the window, contemplating the fragility of human connection, and forgetting the kettle’s boiled. Again.

Give it a go. Just maybe don’t tell anyone if you end up having a little cry to it. Or do—no judgement. We’ve all been there. Probably.





Even AI is moved by it in a way I wasnt
 
Gorilla Manor by Local Natives is a frustrating album which I'm likely to be doing a disservice to as the little I've read about them online suggests I'm not quite getting something. I think this is perhaps a result of me being an old, miserable, cynical brit and this is a positive and sincere album which leaves me ultimately unmoved. Having said that plenty of people are saying that it is an an emotional album and there are certainly moments that are meant to move me. I've previously mentioned i'm devoid of subtlety though so need really obvious and melodramatic movements and this album is perhaps a little restrained for my taste. So in summary it's not them it's me.

Local Natives seem like nice sweet boys. Airplanes was written by the keyboard player about the grandad he never met but wishes he could have as his father shares stories about what he was like. It's nice and sweet but i have a dark heart and I wanted to have the grandfather revealed as a war criminal or something. Wild Eyes should have the boy in the folds of the tree eaten by wild animals. I mentioned earlier in conversation with @Black&White&BlueMoon Town that I preferred World News when I thought the main characters brother had been killed in a terrorist bomb. I'm obviously a terrible person but i needed more drama and conflict from this album.

Having said that I think the album could also benefit from a lighter touch. I'm not sure exactly how to articulate this but if you compare their cover of Warning Sign to the Talking Heads version you'll see that the original has more space and a bit of a bounce. The album that instantly came to mind reviewing this one was Robbers and Cowards by Cold War Kids which I think shares many similarities in it's sincerity and delivery. Robbers and Cowards by contrast is both heavier and lighter in a way i don't have the words to explain. Camera Talk is another touch stone for me - it's got a big Vampire Weekend vibe but feels less agile in some way. I realise I'm making little sense.

There are a couple of moments where it got a little heavier such as the last minute of Shape Shifter (which has a darker tone) which I enjoyed but they repeat the trick a couple of times. The vocal delivery also has a distinctive flavour which i would describe as having an unbalanced amount of syllables. It's not unpleasant but it does get repetitive (interesting that I am objecting to a vocal delivery choice when I defended English Teacher so much).

So in summary I think we make a quick judgement on something and then spend some time rationally trying to justify a purely irrational instinctive decision. I can't take to it because the moon is in venus or something. Similar to the Greenleaf nomination I think these guys are a good band but it's just not for me - 6
There will probably come a time when someone puts forward an album featuring war criminals, animals eating boys, and terrorism, but you will crave for something softer and sweeter, and this might be one of those to come back to. Who knows.. (Who cares?)

I get that things click different at different times and moods, the Melonheads being my prime example perhaps, and one thing one week can feel different in another.

But then there is also looking for something that just isn't meant to be there, like wanting grit in a smoothened melodic soundscape, which let's face it, simply put - is basically just completely missing the fucking point.

Still, guess it makes for entertaining reading, which is what it is really all about, isn't it.

Agree however that it is a frustrating album in many ways though. Thought it then, think it now. And in many ways it also reminds me a lot of the English Teacher album.

Again, the mood is all over the place, there are wrestles with direction, big ideas being left hanging, etc. But then the style and delivery is far more detemined and defined, there is a clarity to it, and maybe an honesty. Maybe it is in the confidence they pull it off with, maybe it is in the apparent comradery, who knows. (Who cares?)

It probably feels like it will only ever appeal to niche audiences, and it is ok with that, because it will truly resonate with them. Rather than appearing to be niche, while trying to broadly appeal to far wider spectrums. Revisiting so soon after that one has indeed had me appreciating both in a different light.

All that said, I do consider them a 'best of' band, and their strength for me is in standout individual songs of real quality, rather than in their albums.
 
Because I happened to be doing something else I thought I'd ask chatgpt to write me a review for a British and male audience. This is what it came up with

Right, cards on the table—I had a bit of a moment to Gorilla Manor the other night. There I was, elbow-deep in washing up, listening to “Airplanes,” and suddenly I’m blinking suspiciously at the kitchen window like it’s got dust in my eyes. It didn’t. I was just… you know… feeling things. Grim.

Local Natives, for those unfamiliar, are a bunch of Americans who clearly grew up harmonising around a campfire and crying about sunsets. Their debut album, Gorilla Manor, came out in 2009 (which I refuse to believe was more than a decade ago, because that makes me feel aggressively ancient), and it’s still unreasonably brilliant.

The sound? Imagine if Fleet Foxes stopped faffing about in the woods and decided to write songs you could actually move to. Then throw in some jittery drums, beautiful harmonies, and lyrics that hit like a surprise breakup text from someone you thought was happy. That’s Gorilla Manor.

“Sun Hands” is probably the standout—starts off all dreamy and floaty, and then absolutely kicks off halfway through. It's like they bottle up all their anxiety and let it explode in a burst of drums and yelling. I’ve never wanted to run through a field in slow motion more. Embarrassing, really.

And don’t get me started on the percussion. Every track sounds like the drummer had three coffees and unresolved emotional baggage. It's relentless in the best way—makes you wish your own inner monologue had a rhythm section.

Lyrically, they walk that fine line between cryptic and “hang on, are they talking about me?” Which is annoying, frankly. “Who Knows Who Cares” is the kind of existential advice I’ve paid actual money to hear in therapy, and here it is casually being sung by a bunch of softly spoken Californians with immaculate hair.

If I’ve got one gripe, it’s that the album does start to blur a bit. Not in a bad way—more like a warm pint after a long day. You know you’ve had too much but you’re not mad about it. Everything’s layered, textured, and drenched in reverb. It’s gorgeous, but not exactly one for your mate who prefers “a bit of edge, you know?”

Still, Gorilla Manor is the kind of album that sneaks up on you. One minute you’re just putting it on in the background while tidying up, next thing you know you’re staring out the window, contemplating the fragility of human connection, and forgetting the kettle’s boiled. Again.

Give it a go. Just maybe don’t tell anyone if you end up having a little cry to it. Or do—no judgement. We’ve all been there. Probably.





Even AI is moved by it in a way I wasnt
Shut your face, A.I didn't write that, that's clearly all you, lol!
 
There will probably come a time when someone puts forward an album featuring war criminals, animals eating boys, and terrorism, but you will crave for something softer and sweeter, and this might be one of those to come back to. Who knows.. (Who cares?)

I get that things click different at different times and moods, the Melonheads being my prime example perhaps, and one thing one week can feel different in another.

But then there is also looking for something that just isn't meant to be there, like wanting grit in a smoothened melodic soundscape, which let's face it, simply put - is basically just completely missing the fucking point.

Still, guess it makes for entertaining reading, which is what it is really all about, isn't it.

Agree however that it is a frustrating album in many ways though. Thought it then, think it now. And in many ways it also reminds me a lot of the English Teacher album.

Again, the mood is all over the place, there are wrestles with direction, big ideas being left hanging, etc. But then the style and delivery is far more detemined and defined, there is a clarity to it, and maybe an honesty. Maybe it is in the confidence they pull it off with, maybe it is in the apparent comradery, who knows. (Who cares?)

It probably feels like it will only ever appeal to niche audiences, and it is ok with that, because it will truly resonate with them. Rather than appearing to be niche, while trying to broadly appeal to far wider spectrums. Revisiting so soon after that one has indeed had me appreciating both in a different light.

All that said, I do consider them a 'best of' band, and their strength for me is in standout individual songs of real quality, rather than in their albums.
All of this is true which is why I tried to suggest the fault was with me and not the album. I did enjoy the short time I've had with it but you're right. Something catches your mood or it doesn't. I'm also a blunt instrument which is why I want the big obvious emotions as I'm not perceiving the big ideas left hanging. This is a well made album by a decent band that I just didn't vibe with. I also think the mood is pretty samey throughout - again this is likely me being a bit dull though.
 
On first proper listen on the way home I must admit I don't hear Cold War Kids in there who along with The Walkmen showed great initial promise but seemed to fade away.
Saw CWK tour the debut album in a small venue in Birmingham and was up there as one of my favourite gigs I've been to.
It's the high male voice and general mood. The instrumentation is differently tonally - I think (and like) that everything sounds broken on the first CWK album. The sincerity I think is the same and I had some paragraphs exploring that which I took out because it wasn't very interesting
 
Shut your face, A.I didn't write that, that's clearly all you, lol!
Last week I was actually toying with the idea of writing a blog where I review albums suggested to me by AI but then also including the review generated by the AI but with an American girl sensibility because that was amusing to me last week for 20 minutes. I then decided it was a lot of work to just write something only my mum would read and she's getting old now so the audience isn't guaranteed for too much longer
 
All of this is true which is why I tried to suggest the fault was with me and not the album. I did enjoy the short time I've had with it but you're right. Something catches your mood or it doesn't. I'm also a blunt instrument which is why I want the big obvious emotions as I'm not perceiving the big ideas left hanging. This is a well made album by a decent band that I just didn't vibe with. I also think the mood is pretty samey throughout - again this is likely me being a bit dull though.
Yea sure. Confession time now. I bought this album pretty much for Who Knows Who Cares, back in the day. And basically initially only liked that one song off it, and at a push Airplanes, and kinda skipped through the rest. It had a freshness and was a bit different, but that wasn't really enough for me, although those two songs were. Then when Hummingbird came out, didn't particularly like that one initially either, mostly because it didn't have a Who Knows Who Cares, or even an Airplanes. Then some time later Hummingbird really just fucking clicked, and the mood of it just worked for me. Then I went back to this one, and kinda 'learned' to like it too.

So, I do get some of what you say, and the album is a slow burner, you get out of it what you put into it. And it isn't an insta-pleaser.
 
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Beat me to it. AI write me a review in the style of bluemooner Mr Belfry...
Here’s a refined overview of MrBelfry’s writing style and critical perspective in the music-review threads from the Bluemoon-MCFC forums (within The Album Review Club):

Key Themes in MrBelfry’s Reviews​

1. Self-Aware Skepticism & Emotional Distance

MrBelfry often frames his reviews with a degree of self-deprecation and emotional pushback at sincerity. For example, on Gorilla Manor by Local Natives:
“Gorilla Manor…is a positive and sincere album which leaves me ultimately unmoved” forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk+1.
He casts himself as the problem—not the album—“an old, miserable, cynical Brit” who craves more drama forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk+1.

2. Desire for Intensity & Dramatic Contrast

He requests intensity or edge in the music:
“I have a dark heart and I wanted to have the grandfather revealed as a war criminal or something. Wild Eyes should have the boy in the folds of the tree eaten by wild animals.” forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk+1
This illustrates his preference for a darker or more emotionally conflicted narrative, even when the subject matter is inherently gentle or sincere.

3. Insightful Comparisons & Genre Awareness

MrBelfry is adept at drawing analogies:

4. Appreciation for Nuance & Complexity

Despite his initial resistance, MrBelfry recognizes that well-crafted albums—even if emotionally subtle—can grow on him. He notes how the mood and clarity of an album can impact engagement:
“This is a well made album by a decent band that I just didn’t vibe with. I also think the mood is pretty samey throughout…” forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk+1.

5. Valorizing Clarity Over Production Overload

On other bands, like English Teacher, MrBelfry critiques muddled production and desires more vocal clarity. He praises guitar riffs that emerge through overly processed textures:
“I’d love some clarity in the riffs and I’d love an Ian Gillan type, let her rip vocal now and then.” forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

6. Refined Cynicism Meets Occasional Warmth

In his review of Dog Man Star by Suede, a peer praises the “excellent review” for how flawlessly MrBelfry cuts through cynicism:
“It bypasses every cynical, snarky idea of what I think music should be…” forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

Summary Table​

CharacteristicDescription
Self-aware cynicismOften portrays himself as closed off to emotional weight.
Appetite for dramaWants music to deliver bold, contrasting narratives.
Sharp comparisonsDraws parallels to other artists with vivid clarity.
Appreciates nuanceRecognizes strength in subtlety over time.
Critical of overproductionFavors clarity and directness in music.
Occasionally sneaks into reverenceEven skeptical listeners can value craft he praises.

MrBelfry’s critiques are less about whether an album is good or bad, and more about how it emotionally aligns with his expectations—often desiring a musical punch when it leans toward pastoral or restrained beauty. He wields a sharp wit and a clear voice, making the tension between expectation and emotional resonance compelling reading.

Let me know if you’d like a deeper dive into any particular review thread or comparison!
 
Here’s how MrBelfry and journolud stack up in their music reviews on the Bluemoon‑MCFC forum:

Journolud’s Review Style​

From the snippet of his review ("King Snake... reminded me of shambolic rockabilly style of the Fall... strong closer... worth a 7") we can observe that journals’ approach is:
Observational and conversational. He peppers his writing with vivid comparisons—"shambolic rockabilly style of the Fall"—but stays direct and down-to-earth. forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk
He also reflects on his listening habits, revealing himself in real time:
“While writing this I’ve got the Spotify top tracks on... I don’t think I’m going to become a convert... plenty of time to give them a bit more of a listen.” forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk
He closes with a clear, grounded verdict: “better than I feared… worth a 7.”

Comparison Table: MrBelfry vs. Journolud​

ReviewerTone & StyleEmotional EngagementLanguage & Structure
MrBelfrySelf-aware, cynical, dramaticCraves intensity, emotional contrast; wry detachmentPoetic metaphors, expressive, often theatrical
journoludCasual, straightforward, groundedCurious, reflective; measured enjoymentDirect commentary, concrete, conversational
MrBelfry tends to layer his reviews with emotional distance and theatrical flair—wishing for darker drama or expressing irritation with overly smooth production—even while appreciating nuanced craft.
journolud, by contrast, adopts a more pragmatic stance. His tone is relaxed and matter-of-fact; he observes elements that stand out (whether positive or ambivalent), and ends with a balanced, personal rating (like a 7/10).

Final Thoughts​

  • MrBelfry draws readers into a kind of emotional journey: he knows his own taste in music—and isn’t afraid to highlight how an album falls short emotionally (or surprises him).
  • journolud offers a more casual but honest take: he listens, reflects mid-review, and delivers a clear, fair summary without much flourish.
 
I wasn’t able to locate any music reviews posted by BimboBob on the Bluemoon‑MCFC forums—especially within The Album Review Club threads. His contributions appear more frequently in off-topic discussions and light banter rather than formal album critiques.




What I Found on BimboBob:​


  • In one thread, he offered a humorous take on early U2, describing the sound as:

    “A bit of vocal Teardrop Explodes, a bit of rhythmic Sisters of Mercy… A lot of early Cure… all sort of squeezed in to a record I’m finding very familiar due to the above but also very samey due to the songs structures.” forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk
    This suggests he engages thoughtfully when he does comment on music—offering stylistic comparisons and honest, conversational observations.
  • Most of his other posts, however, are quick-witted responses or playful commentary, such as joking about the cost of an album (“How much did this 'gem'… cost you Mark?”) forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk.



Summary​


  • No formal album reviews: BimboBob doesn’t appear to participate in structured Album Review Club postings or submit full reviews.
  • Conversational commentary: His music-related remarks are brief, witty, and often made in passing—with insightful comparisons when applicable.
  • Tone: Informal, playful, and grounded in personal taste rather than critical structure.
 
I wasn’t able to locate any music reviews posted by BimboBob on the Bluemoon‑MCFC forums—especially within The Album Review Club threads. His contributions appear more frequently in off-topic discussions and light banter rather than formal album critiques.




What I Found on BimboBob:​


  • In one thread, he offered a humorous take on early U2, describing the sound as:


    This suggests he engages thoughtfully when he does comment on music—offering stylistic comparisons and honest, conversational observations.
  • Most of his other posts, however, are quick-witted responses or playful commentary, such as joking about the cost of an album (“How much did this 'gem'… cost you Mark?”) forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk.



Summary​


  • No formal album reviews: BimboBob doesn’t appear to participate in structured Album Review Club postings or submit full reviews.
  • Conversational commentary: His music-related remarks are brief, witty, and often made in passing—with insightful comparisons when applicable.
  • Tone: Informal, playful, and grounded in personal taste rather than critical structure.
'Bimbo is not really here'.

A.I really is fucking dogshit, isn't it.
 
'Bimbo is not really here'.

A.I really is fucking dogshit, isn't it.

I thought we'd just established it was the Wizard of Oz and OpenAi is really just Belfry bashing out stuff on an Amstrad whilst he cackles at the thought of his half trillion dollar valuation.

This is all getting dangerously close to review the review territory which if it does in the words of B Rabbit I'm outy.
 

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