Savinho | City reject Spurs approach

So when it’s reported that a player is up for a move what does that say to you?
It says that he is a human being, a young lad, who is concerned that he isn't going to get the pitch time he thought when he signed.

After the shit show from the entire team last season I don't see how anyone can have formed a negative opinion on a 21 year old kid who is still settling in.
 
Not really though I think Haaland is better than some think, but it requires quick passing of the 3 behind him and the 2 fullbacks, plus Reijnders, We have that it just requires Haaland's movement to get into positions to receive the ball which he can do very well.
We’re going to have to beg to differ on this one. For me, Haaland is more the broadsword and that kind of play requires a stiletto.
 
Think Mukasa is going to see more time than we realise atm

In cup games maybe I just don't see it. It's another player young with huge potential. Pep wants to win now hes got 2 years left , I can just see us signing a winger in the 25 to 28 age range as a replacement to sav. Not potential but experienced.
 
I'm not surprised he's keen on the move, as he was probably expecting us to say "not selling, fuck off", rather than "how much?".

If you as a player feel like you're not valued that highly, why not go somewhere you will be?

This is Palmer all over again. Years of "he wanted to leave, fuck him" instead of asking ourselves why. Shit squad planning and an inability or unwillingness to move on the players that need moving on. If Savinho thinks he won't get enough minutes, it's because Gundo, Kovacic and Bernardo will take the midfield minutes of Foden and Cherki, forcing them out onto the right. Not rocket science.
Nah mate, Savinho had more than enough minutes last season I think. No one is guaranteed minutes and its always been that, Savinho could very well just prove why he needs to be picked every game.
 
Bobb has been the Palmer replacement, the Alvarez replacement and now the Savinho replacement, all without actually starting more than half a dozen games for us.

I love the kid, but this is not good squad planning.
I get what you’re saying but the club couldn’t legislate for a broken leg, just when it looked like Bobb was in the cusp of something very decent. He has a lot to prove but with Sav gone, he might actually get that chance. If Sav was to stay, there will be a hell of a lot of chopping and changing on that right wing and I’m not sure that does anyone any favours. How many times have we seen players hit form only to be benched? I’m not a fan of that at all.
 
Fair enough. But he did just run the game against the champions of Europe and lead Chelsea to the Club World Cup.

I'd take Palmer back in a heartbeat he's the best in his position in the Prem.

He believed in himself and it's paid off. I can see the same happening with Savinho. He'll be top class when it all clicks, which it will.
Completely agree about Palmer….. but you could see his potential in the few games he appeared in for us.

Thought Savinho would be great after his debut v Chelsea away, but from then on he was one of the most frustrating players I have watched in my over 55 years of watching City….obviously talented but consistently playing the wrong ball or shooting (snatching)

Towards the end of the season my heart sank when I saw him in the starting 11, including the cup final (although not helped by Akanji)

If him going opens up a place for Bobb who has a higher ceiling then no problem with getting decent money for him.

We are in the driving seat in dealing with Spurs…..give them the Harry Kane treatment that they gave us……we should be looking at south of £65 million.

I think our width will come from the fullbacks this season to allow us to get more bodies in midfield.
 
Grealish is gone to Everton thats very advanced according to Paul Joyce. The thing is Afcon will hurt us this season Ait nouri and Marmoush will be gone. With Savinho sale your wing options next season are even more limited.
Oh yeah I think Jack is gone as well but wouldn’t be surprised if something happened in that deal, there’s a lot more to go wrong in a Grealish deal as the numbers are huge and he’s underperformed.

Afcon is true, but the same for everybody, Sunderland my god are doomed. We have Ake, Gvardiol and even O’Reilly to cover LB for a month - Gvardiol being the best option by a long way.

For LW it all depends on if we think we will be short for one month or the whole season. Marmoush and Doku will take up a lot of minutes. Then Foden can play there at a high level, Bobb can help cover, Mukasa could get put out there as we know Pep often integrates players out wide. Bernie helps cover the RW if needed. There are enough options to scramble. But if we think we will be short for the whole season we will definitely buy.
 
It says that he is a human being, a young lad, who is concerned that he isn't going to get the pitch time he thought when he signed.

After the shit show from the entire team last season I don't see how anyone can have formed a negative opinion on a 21 year old kid who is still settling in.

Pep played him 3000 mins last season why do you think pep will not give him the same time? Tells me he thinks he ain’t going to get game time and tells me he is more worried about his international career! He is still young he could stay mature a player under pep become one of our best players in 2/3 years like a lot of players have done! He ain’t got the fight if he happy to move!
 
I like savinho and I think he is a good player who is likely to improve
But I get the feeling pep and Hugo have looked at Liverpool and Arsenal and decided we need to target top quality.
We need to be ruthless. savinho, doku, nunes and mcatee are all not at the level we used to have
if we can get a decent fees then we have to let good players leave and target top quality ones
 
I like savinho and I think he is a good player who is likely to improve
But I get the feeling pep and Hugo have looked at Liverpool and Arsenal and decided we need to target top quality.
We need to be ruthless. savinho, doku, nunes and mcatee are all not at the level we used to have
if we can get a decent fees then we have to let good players leave and target top quality ones
Nunes won't be going anywhere.
 
Pep thinks he's a serial chance misser and final ball bungler.
And now we are seemingly here he doesnt do enough to win the ball back by a country mile. Last season as we know there were many times we didn't. Was like playing vrs u15s team sometimes how soft we were vrs nearly anyone at one stage.

Sav sadly though some lovely assists couldn't also hit a barn door to save his life, obvs didn't help his case either.

Big profit - buy a bloody RB now!
 
Gray did play regularly though, 46 appearances and 3244 minutes, for a player who was 18 for the majority of the season that's impressive. Its more minutes than Savinho played and only 6 City players played more.
Minutes and stats are all well and good but we dont need an 18 year old fringe utility player. We already have Rico Lewis for that. Yes home grown and with potential but currently we need a starting right back therefore should squeeze that slime Levy and crew for as much money as possible to put towards funding a RB (if we even decide to puchase one - is RB to become the new LB?).
 
I get what you’re saying but the club couldn’t legislate for a broken leg, just when it looked like Bobb was in the cusp of something very decent. He has a lot to prove but with Sav gone, he might actually get that chance. If Sav was to stay, there will be a hell of a lot of chopping and changing on that right wing and I’m not sure that does anyone any favours. How many times have we seen players hit form only to be benched? I’m not a fan of that at all.
Bobb won Academy POTY twice - we know about his quality. Only the other day I saw one of our players interviewed who singled out Oscar Bobb as the player that had impressed him the most.

This is really in answer to the post you replied to.
 
It says that he is a human being, a young lad, who is concerned that he isn't going to get the pitch time he thought when he signed.

After the shit show from the entire team last season I don't see how anyone can have formed a negative opinion on a 21 year old kid who is still settling in.
One of the better players last year. Admittedly not a high bar
 

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