Gianluigi Donnarumma | Done deal according to Romano

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argyle said:
Not allowed to say this mate.

He's the bestest ever and no faults or concerns to discuss.
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Has anyone actually said he's without fault?

It's the dogmatic idea that it's impossible not to play all of the back line so far up the field or to not involve the keeper as a third centre back as much as we currently do on the ball that seems to be the prevalent case of "no we can't discuss this at all".

Look at the Centurions from 2018, the 2021 champions and the treble winners in 2023 and tell me with a straight face they all play the same way. We can adapt to a keeper who is much less capable with ball at feet.
 
Coatigan said:
Is he by all accounts on the cusp of signing? Look, valid point re Pep, but are the claims really that firm? One in l'equippe and the rest seems to stem from that.
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Romano is basically Hugo Vianas burner account so yeah there is something in it, all hinges on Ederson.
 
Gumzy97 said:
Just feels odd. He's a world class shot stopper. But it would completely change the way we play. I'm really interested to see how we set up with him in the team and how we play
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Did PSG not play last season exactly the way Guardiola wants us to play? I accept he’s not very good with his feet, but they just won the treble playing arguably the best football Europe has seen since Peps Barcelona and nobody was talking about it then. In fact he was man of the match in several high profile knock out games in the CL.

PSG offered him a new deal and if he had signed it then they wouldn’t have bought a new number 1 and Enrique wouldn’t be talking about style of play. What they’re doing now is forcing him out before the end of his deal so he doesn’t leave for free.

At the moment I don’t think a lot of our defenders are built for Peps ideal philosophy. Stones can play out from the back comfortably but he’s never fit, Gvardiol has the ability to learn to. In terms of CBs That leaves you with Dias, Akanji, Ake, Khusanov and I don’t think any of them are great on the ball under pressure. Not suggesting we are going to start hoofing it but we are going to have to change anyway.

Also, at the moment as a whole side we are a shambles defensively. How many times last season and in the CWC did it feel like the opposition scored the first time & virtually every time they got in our box? That’s what Donnarumma brings imo, he can save what seem certain goals and he gets inside a forwards head and makes them think about how and where they’re going to hit the ball. Obviously we will still concede but he’s a wall in between the posts and can keep us in games when we are under pressure.
 
Gumzy97 said:
Just feels odd. He's a world class shot stopper. But it would completely change the way we play. I'm really interested to see how we set up with him in the team and how we play
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PSG played good football with him in the side. It wasn't exactly Big Sam route one football was it? And they just annihilated good sides throughout their champions league campaign and won it.
 
argyle said:
Is Enrique exaggerating his weaknesses? He wants him out because of his faults, his main ones being his kicking and flapping at crosses.

I think many won't know what they had in Ederson until he's gone.
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Donnarumna has flaws to his game - absolutely. He also has considerable strengths too.

The same goes for Ederson - who is incredible at some parts of the game, but not so good at others.

But the reality is Ederson clearly doesn’t want to be at City anymore - he’s shown no appetite to sign a new contract, and has spent the last two summers trying to engineer a move away from the Club.

His time with City is done, and like our other legends, he goes with our thanks for the memories - but we move on.

Haaland was completely different to Kun, Rodri was completely different to Fernandinho, Dias was completely different to Kompany.

We move on, and we adapt our style to accommodate the change - and that’s a good thing, as the team evolves with it.

Stops us being predictable.

So the fact Donnarumma is completely different to Ederson isn’t something we should be scared of.

People talk about the Hart and Bravo situation as if it somehow dictates the present - but that was nine years ago.

Ederson came in the next year and revolutionised the role of the keeper in the PL - but now everyone plays that way.

Now it’s the norm - nothing like the fresh, unpredictable innovation it was back in 2016.

Pep is evolving our team, that much is clear - and who knows where he takes us next - but this process of evolution isn’t something new.

It’s happened before, many times - and we’ve always got better as a result of it.
 
argyle said:
Fantastic keeper, best in the world at being a shot stopper....

But just doesn't suit the way we play.

Enrique sets up PSG similar and doesn't want him because his kicking/passing is that awful.

I know there are some on here that have a real hard on for just shot stopping but the role of a keeper has changed in the last decade.

I understand wanting a keeper that can stop shots better than Ederson because people only see negatives in him, but his positives are a big reason why we have won so much over the last decade.
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Apparently City have won an internal case with Fife, arguing that teams should be able to play more than one keeper in the eleven players picked. This new rule will come into place this weekend.
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
It's just the timing for me if we are going to change our build up style at least work on it before the season starts not change after the season has started.
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Thats something I can't disagree with, it's not ideal, but I suppose there are also instant advantages from having him in net
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
It's just the timing for me if we are going to change our build up style at least work on it before the season starts not change after the season has started.
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Yeah how will Donnarumma be able to adapt to playing a 10yrd pass to Akanji, then back to Dias, then back to Akanji, then one inside to Rico.

Speaks volumes that Ederson best season for assists came last year when we cut out the passing in the first 1/3 and just went long.

If we can’t get Stones and Rodri in that middle part of the pitch, let’s not bother and I think Pep knows that.
 
decmancity said:
Where’s the discussion?

If he wasn’t a “pep” player he wouldn’t by all accounts be on the cusp of signing would he unless of course this is all a final sabotage by Pep to ruin us before he leaves.
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There is a discussion by me and others posting it. If he comes then great I hope he does well. But his skillset is not one that we know Pep has gone for previously. Indeed, he let Hart go because of this.

You just don't want to read anything that goes against your own views and so write ridiculous things like your second sentence.
 
I`m quite ready for a guy a bit worse with his feet but that makes way more saves and can actually save penalties personally. Ederson has been an AMAZING signing but his head just isnt he anymore and the time to go is now and if we can get Donnarumma at a great price and he`s instantly available the get it done please Hugo.
 
decmancity said:
Romano is basically Hugo Vianas burner account so yeah there is something in it, all hinges on Ederson.
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Romano hasn't said anything that weighty though. He has said plenty of 'if's.

For clarity, I am not claiming it won't happen and certainly not that we aren't interested. Just that it isn't maybe quite as close as people have jumped to conclude.

All hinges on Ederson, I agree. Or rather, on Galatasaray!
 
When these types of rumours pop up we should distance ourselves straight away, save our name being used for a better deal elsewhere. I’d love us to be in for him
 
Crooked_rain said:
PSG played good football with him in the side. It wasn't exactly Big Sam route one football was it? And they just annihilated good sides throughout their champions league campaign and won it.
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Yes but Enrique wants him out because of his kicking.

Just a concern for us given how Pep has set us up previously.
 
jamielowndes said:
Has anyone actually said he's without fault?

It's the dogmatic idea that it's impossible not to play all of the back line so far up the field or to not involve the keeper as a third centre back as much as we currently do on the ball that seems to be the prevalent case of "no we can't discuss this at all".

Look at the Centurions from 2018, the 2021 champions and the treble winners in 2023 and tell me with a straight face they all play the same way. We can adapt to a keeper who is much less capable with ball at feet.
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It isn't a case of can we play differently , we change all the time,the question is ,is Pep going to go against one of his most fundemental beliefs that possesion and not giving the ball away is how he wants to play. Not impossible but unlikely, so then the question is IF we are interested in Donnarumma does Pep think he can get him playing his way. Only Pep can answer any of that and that' s okay. What do this is almost certain is whoever the keeper that we won't turn into some counter attacking team we will still be a technical possesion based team, and the players we've bought fit that .
 
decmancity said:
Yeah how will Donnarumma be able to adapt to playing a 10yrd pass to Akanji, then back to Dias, then back to Akanji, then one inside to Rico.

Speaks volumes that Ederson best season for assists came last year when we cut out the passing in the first 1/3 and just went long.

If we can’t get Stones and Rodri in that middle part of the pitch, let’s not bother and I think Pep knows that.
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Enrique at PSG has let him go because he can't do this very well.
 
Pepmanc said:
It appears our name is being used to show that he is wanted by a number of clubs. When he goes to the rags the press can say he chose them over us.
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I don't think it appears that way.

For one, the club haven't denied it, which they often do in situations like that.
 
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