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Perfectly summed up. Until both sides accept (and act on) the other's right to existence and self determination then this is going nowhere. The Palestinians should accept Israel's right to exist and Israel should accept that the Palestinian people want their own land.
Sectarian hatred has been going strong in this part of the Middle East for thousands of years. There will never be a solution as long as religious fundamentalists on both sides keep preaching hate.
 
Sectarian hatred has been going strong in this part of the Middle East for thousands of years. There will never be a solution as long as religious fundamentalists on both sides keep preaching hate.
Surely the penny must drop for both sets of people eventually? Just accept you both have a point, shake hands and get on with life.
 
You are just being silly again. I support a two state solution. I support both groups of people having internationally recognised borders that both adhere to. I support both groups having self determination. I do NOT support either side deciding their own borders. However, I am realistic enough to realise that the Israelis are in the ascendency here, so any deal will, probably, favour the Israelis. That's always been the case with any war.
Silly? So the Palestinians get what's left after Israel has taken its Lebenraum?

The Anschluss. The Sudetenland. The West Bank.
 
Sectarian hatred has been going strong in this part of the Middle East for thousands of years. There will never be a solution as long as religious fundamentalists on both sides keep preaching hate.
I would say that until 1948 Jews, Muslims, Christians and others lived side by side reasonably amicably. But I’m only going by contemporary knowledge, not sure about older times.
 
I have to say that anyone who supports hamas, hizbollah, isis or any other fanatical, extremist, religious group deserves to be on a watchlist.
I have no list myself.
Think about these things. Did Israelis carry out the Manchester Arena bombing? Was it Israelis who beheaded a Manchester taxi driver who was simply taking aid to the middle east? The answer in both cases is no.
Is it Israelis who are complicit in the child grooming scandal? I don't think so.
I could go on
I am not particularly religious but if I had to be I would not wish to be associated with a religion which carries out torture, rape and murder.
Think about this.
What the fuck are you babbling on about now you utter clown?

In your eyes my unequivocal support for Palestinian self-determination not only makes me 'khaamas' but also means I am 'associating myself with a religion'.Therefore I am some form of apologist for heinous crimes commited by people of that religion. You can get to fuck with that shit for starters.

Can't be arsed getting into the heavy lifting of your "I'm not particularly religious but" conflations ..... because I am not remotely religious and refuse to view things exclusively through that lens.

The laughable thing is you offering up the state of Israel as a 'moral arbiter', while also having the temerity to end every sermon with "think about this".

So yeah think about some of this... or don't. Up to you.

Did the indigenous people of Palestine bomb the HQ of the British army and hang officers from trees, or was that pre-state Zionist militias/freedom fighters/terrorists ?

You know the same 'terrorists' who morphed into the IDF that just last year assassinated two UK ex-servicemen in a targeted strike on an aid convoy. In a country where the systematic rape and torture of Palestinian prisoners is debated on mid morning media as a for or against question.



Is it Israelis who are complicit in the child grooming scandal? I don't think so.
I could go on
You could but you choose to isolate your outrage to "the child grooming scandal", rather than the scandal of child grooming across all societies. Unfortunately your chosen moral arbiter is deeply complicit.


.... and from a few weeks back

 
I would say that until 1948 Jews, Muslims, Christians and others lived side by side reasonably amicably. But I’m only going by contemporary knowledge, not sure about older times.
Amicable living had long gone before 1948. It went once European Jews arrived with the Zionist programme to become more populous than the Arabs (Muslim and Christian) and the Palestinian Jews.
 
Probably not. That's how war works isn't it? Would the Palestinians have given back any land they 'stole' from the Israelis if they had been victorious? If you get beat in a war it's the winner who dictates terms surely? If the Arabs had beat the Jews in 1948 would Israel even exist?
What stolen land is that?
 
I have to say that anyone who supports hamas, hizbollah, isis or any other fanatical, extremist, religious group deserves to be on a watchlist.
I have no list myself.
Think about these things. Did Israelis carry out the Manchester Arena bombing? Was it Israelis who beheaded a Manchester taxi driver who was simply taking aid to the middle east? The answer in both cases is no.
Is it Israelis who are complicit in the child grooming scandal? I don't think so.
I could go on
I am not particularly religious but if I had to be I would not wish to be associated with a religion which carries out torture, rape and murder.
Think about this.
This is Islamaphobic. Think about that you fucking racist
 

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