Kirkstall Blue
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- St Helens. Formally Manchester
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On a lighter note representing Palestine in the Miss Universe a lovely young lady hope she wins.
Sectarian hatred has been going strong in this part of the Middle East for thousands of years. There will never be a solution as long as religious fundamentalists on both sides keep preaching hate.Perfectly summed up. Until both sides accept (and act on) the other's right to existence and self determination then this is going nowhere. The Palestinians should accept Israel's right to exist and Israel should accept that the Palestinian people want their own land.
Who do you think? Israel started killing Palestinians from the minute they were ‘given’ their land. They also killed quite a few British soldiers too.Who atacked who in 1948?
Surely the penny must drop for both sets of people eventually? Just accept you both have a point, shake hands and get on with life.Sectarian hatred has been going strong in this part of the Middle East for thousands of years. There will never be a solution as long as religious fundamentalists on both sides keep preaching hate.
On a lighter note representing Palestine in the Miss Universe a lovely young lady hope she wins.
Silly? So the Palestinians get what's left after Israel has taken its Lebenraum?You are just being silly again. I support a two state solution. I support both groups of people having internationally recognised borders that both adhere to. I support both groups having self determination. I do NOT support either side deciding their own borders. However, I am realistic enough to realise that the Israelis are in the ascendency here, so any deal will, probably, favour the Israelis. That's always been the case with any war.
No it hasn't.Sectarian hatred has been going strong in this part of the Middle East for thousands of years.
I would say that until 1948 Jews, Muslims, Christians and others lived side by side reasonably amicably. But I’m only going by contemporary knowledge, not sure about older times.Sectarian hatred has been going strong in this part of the Middle East for thousands of years. There will never be a solution as long as religious fundamentalists on both sides keep preaching hate.
What the fuck are you babbling on about now you utter clown?I have to say that anyone who supports hamas, hizbollah, isis or any other fanatical, extremist, religious group deserves to be on a watchlist.
I have no list myself.
Think about these things. Did Israelis carry out the Manchester Arena bombing? Was it Israelis who beheaded a Manchester taxi driver who was simply taking aid to the middle east? The answer in both cases is no.
Is it Israelis who are complicit in the child grooming scandal? I don't think so.
I could go on
I am not particularly religious but if I had to be I would not wish to be associated with a religion which carries out torture, rape and murder.
Think about this.
You could but you choose to isolate your outrage to "the child grooming scandal", rather than the scandal of child grooming across all societies. Unfortunately your chosen moral arbiter is deeply complicit.Is it Israelis who are complicit in the child grooming scandal? I don't think so.
I could go on
Amicable living had long gone before 1948. It went once European Jews arrived with the Zionist programme to become more populous than the Arabs (Muslim and Christian) and the Palestinian Jews.I would say that until 1948 Jews, Muslims, Christians and others lived side by side reasonably amicably. But I’m only going by contemporary knowledge, not sure about older times.
No. It's genocide.Very simple, do you support what the Israeli government are doing in Palestine?
What stolen land is that?Probably not. That's how war works isn't it? Would the Palestinians have given back any land they 'stole' from the Israelis if they had been victorious? If you get beat in a war it's the winner who dictates terms surely? If the Arabs had beat the Jews in 1948 would Israel even exist?
This is Islamaphobic. Think about that you fucking racistI have to say that anyone who supports hamas, hizbollah, isis or any other fanatical, extremist, religious group deserves to be on a watchlist.
I have no list myself.
Think about these things. Did Israelis carry out the Manchester Arena bombing? Was it Israelis who beheaded a Manchester taxi driver who was simply taking aid to the middle east? The answer in both cases is no.
Is it Israelis who are complicit in the child grooming scandal? I don't think so.
I could go on
I am not particularly religious but if I had to be I would not wish to be associated with a religion which carries out torture, rape and murder.
Think about this.
It’s not. A very vocal, tiny section of people on social media are wanting to riot or trying to get other to join them.Carry on down thus road and the shit is really going to hit the fan.
Carry on down thus road and the shit is really going to hit the fan.