Russian invasion of Ukraine

RadcliffeRick said:
If a United European army went in to drive ruSSia out of Ukraine with a remit of not stepping on ruSSian soil would that be deemed an attack on ruSSia? If so logically, North Korea is effectively at war with Ukraine .
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If a European army was sent with that remit and it came under artillery fire from an area inside ruSSia, could the Europeans retaliate and attack an area inside ruSSia?
Same with the ruSSian glide bombs which are launched from hundreds of kilometres inside ruSSia. Would the Europeans be allowed to cruise missile ruSSian air bases?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Far easier to get cheaper minerals deal under Putin than Zelensky, time to carve up some land for the American cunts.
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My thoughts exactly. Putin simply tells him that he will honour any rare earth minerals deal once he has control of the whole of Donbas.

I was also thinking that Zelenskyy should follow Putin and say that he will have his Foreign Minister & Defence Minister at the meetings aswell. He certainly shouldn't put himself in the same situation as last time where he was by himself.
 
dickie davies said:
If a European army was sent with that remit and it came under artillery fire from an area inside ruSSia, could the Europeans retaliate and attack an area inside ruSSia?
Same with the ruSSian glide bombs which are launched from hundreds of kilometres inside ruSSia. Would the Europeans be allowed to cruise missile ruSSian air bases?
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Good point well made, a Really difficult situation .
 
LGWIO said:
My thoughts exactly. Putin simply tells him that he will honour any rare earth minerals deal once he has control of the whole of Donbas.

I was also thinking that Zelenskyy should follow Putin and say that he will have his Foreign Minister & Defence Minister at the meetings aswell. He certainly shouldn't put himself in the same situation as last time where he was by himself.
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The fact Trump is calling one ‘Vladimir’ and the other ‘Zelensky’ speaks volumes.
 
LGWIO said:
My thoughts exactly. Putin simply tells him that he will honour any rare earth minerals deal once he has control of the whole of Donbas.

I was also thinking that Zelenskyy should follow Putin and say that he will have his Foreign Minister & Defence Minister at the meetings aswell. He certainly shouldn't put himself in the same situation as last time where he was by himself.
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Zelensky should troll the Russians and have them turn up in NATO sweaters like Lavrov did on Friday turning up in a CCCP hoody.

It’s a fucking disgrace that Russia is asking for land that it doesn’t even occupy for peace. Allowing this to happen gives Putin some sort of victory. Giving into them kicks the can down the road for them to try some more of their shady land grabs and their obsession with bringing back the old iron curtain in the future.
 
Donetsk Region is a very heavily fortified region,which is why the Russians have/get so many losses there.
Giving it to Russia would be suicide for Ukraine.
This would mean Russia would be on the doorstep of Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia, Kharkiv, and Luhansk Region's,that have very little or no fortifications.
IMO....If Russia gets Donetsk Region,Ukraine and its people will cease to exist in a few years.
No fuckin way Zelensky or any other Ukrainian will agree to it.

Slava Ukraini.
 
I've noticed quite a lot of stories appearing saying many Ukrainians don't support Zelensky or the war.
It's obviously Russian propaganda wrapped up as news articles.
The main "tell" is any Ukrainian not supporting the war. While no right minded people want any war, this is not a war. It's an invasion.

This wasn't started or wanted by the Ukraine. To stop the war means defeat. If the majority of Ukrainians wanted to be controlled by Russia, they would have simply surrendered.

Trump is a traitor. He is supporting a common enemy while punishing an allie. How he has got Russian hating Americans to buy into this is beyond me. Everytime he repeats that Zelensky shouldn't have started this war, he should be shot down by every government around the world. Our silence is shameful...
 
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The Future’s Blue! said:
Looks like there’ll be a huge European contingent travelling to do a pile-on on Trump.
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They need to stand up to the twat and tell him in no uncertain terms we stand with Ukraine,he either backs them or fucks off and we will take care of it one way or another. Tell him he’s irrelevant on the world stage if he gives in to Putin. I guarantee China will start making moves on Taiwan soon as well seeing how this is playing out. Bush Jr felt he wants to pull back from leading the world and be more insular and then 9/11 happened.
 
fulabeer said:
Trump is a traitor. He is supporting a common enemy while punishing an allie. How he has got Russian hating Americans to buy into this is beyond me. Everytime he repeats that Zelensky shouldn't have started this war, should be shot down by every government around the world. Our silence is shameful...
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I do think that with Trumps own MO, its a case of "flooding the zone", by Trump & Putin. We have got away from the fact that this is an invasion. As Putin says, go back to the root causes.
Nazis in control of the country.....even if there were, it is another sovereign country and just because you don't like it doesn't give you the right to invade, level towns and villages, kidnap children and kill civilians.
NATO expansion...so why haven't you invaded Finland or the Baltics?
History ('istry) ...if that held any water then why haven't you invaded the rest of the old Soviet states?
We all know its complete bollocks and it is these that should be focussed on to simply show that Russia isn't entitled to any land.
Point out to Trump that if previous owning of land was valid then Mexico should be getting a fair bit of land back.
 
Ukraine will not surrender its territories in exchange for so-called “security guarantees,” because we have already gone through the surrender of nuclear weapons in exchange for such guarantees — and no one honored them. The aggressor must be punished, not rewarded. If American soldiers are ready to kneel before the ****, that is the choice of the United States. Ukrainians have made their choice: they began to strike the enemy, not welcome him with red carpets. Because Ukrainians have firmly learned the lessons of history — that unpunished evil always returns. And evil must be stopped and punished, not encouraged and fueled by concessions.



Slava Ukraini! Heroyam Slava!
 
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