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SWP's back said:
I may well believe in a god if this happens.
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Not to single you out, but the way our fanbase has turned on Gundo is quite shameful. You all had your trousers down in excitement only a year ago for his return. He started slow but eventually found his groove. He's still a good player, and he's still a good man.

This is a club legend we're talking about. Likely a future City coach. Sure he's not in his prime, but if he plays 30 mins here or there and helps develop Tijani, Nico G, Nico OR, Cherki, etc., is that not worth one of the last squad spots?

Why all the hatred?
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Centurions said:
"Their current offer could simply stay on the table until the Premier League window shuts. If City turn it down, Gala would then shift their focus to Donnarumma"

Don't the windows all shut at the same time or have I missed something (or possibly just misread that line)?
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The summer transfer window closes later in leagues outside the top five.
 
Dribble said:
Just as we did with Kompany leaving & having no competition & back-up for Rodri. The 'Can do a job' crew stepped in claiming we had adequate cover from other positions, but both situations led to the Dippers winning the title.

Perhaps City have finally learned their lesson & will no longer rely on 'can do a job' squad players, & keeping our fingers crossed for the season.

We need like for like squad replacements & also need to replace leaving players with incoming players of equal or better ability.
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Absolutely mate!

We have players we are happy to let go as their replacements have already been secured like Akanji (Khusanov), Ortega (Trafford) and Gundogan (Reijnders) and with KDB (Cherki) already.

These guys it seems we are actively encouraging to leave, as they take up squad places we don’t currently have.

Then we have players we would be happy to retain, but who we acknowledge have offers from other Clubs in place which they would actively be interested in pursuing, but who need replacing - like Eddie and Savinho.

Its a good thing and a dog of exceptional squad planning that in the latter cases, we have identified and engaged their potential replacements already - so we aren’t left in the Kompany/Aguero situation of having no succession plan in place for absolutely critical roles in the team, as you say.

That’s what Viana is paid to do, and it seems he’s approaching it very successfully.

The fact we already have Stones’ and Ake’s potential replacements in place for next summer (Reis/Bah) is evidence of this structured squad planning.
 
xMatMcC said:
Not to single you out, but the way our fanbase has turned on Gundo is quite shameful. You all had your trousers down in excitement only a year ago for his return. He started slow but eventually found his groove. He's still a good player, and he's still a good man.

This is a club legend we're talking about. Likely a future City coach. Sure he's not in his prime, but if he plays 30 mins here or there and helps develop Tijani, Nico G, Nico OR, Cherki, etc., is that not worth one of the last squad spots?

Why all the hatred?
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It's not hate. You must not get confused with wanting a player to not play with hating them. It's coz he was shit last year. Hope that helps. Loved him the first time around. Now, someone will come back now and say he was good at the end of the season and I will say he had 4 good games and then someone will say you don't know football/fuck off what about against Newcastle etc. and I will not respond because this conversation has been done to death. There we go.
 
xMatMcC said:
Not to single you out, but the way our fanbase has turned on Gundo is quite shameful. You all had your trousers down in excitement only a year ago for his return. He started slow but eventually found his groove. He's still a good player, and he's still a good man.

This is a club legend we're talking about. Likely a future City coach. Sure he's not in his prime, but if he plays 30 mins here or there and helps develop Tijani, Nico G, Nico OR, Cherki, etc., is that not worth one of the last squad spots?

Why all the hatred?
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Agreed. If he wants to play every game and we can’t offer him that then fair play I hope the club let him move. Which I think is the case with Nico O’Reilly coming through.

Gundo is a legend.
 
SWP's back said:
Wait until he plays false keeper in Turkey if he thinks the family stand aren’t very supportive.
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I think he will be disappointed by their fans if he expects only admiration, but then again he didn't win 6 leagues and the CL with them. If he expects more from some City fans, he may well be right.
 
bell_mcfc said:
Agreed. If he wants to play every game and we can’t offer him that then fair play I hope the club let him move. Which I think is the case with Nico O’Reilly coming through.

Gundo is a legend.
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IF Akanji is going along with one of the keepers there is no real urgency for Gundogan to leave,especially with Kovacic still out, so as long as he understands his position in the squad and he can work with the younger players and is happy with it then no problems having him around the squad.
 
madloaf said:
It's not hate. You must not get confused with wanting a player to not play with hating them. It's coz he was shit last year. Hope that helps. Loved him the first time around. Now, someone will come back now and say he was good at the end of the season and I will say he had 4 good games and then someone will say you don't know football/fuck off what about against Newcastle etc. and I will not respond because this conversation has been done to death. There we go.
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The message I quoted, and others on this thread, are hate.

Obviously I understand folks not wanting Gundo to play every match. I'm in the same boat. But he didn't play the first match, and likely will be minimized to a rotation role. As I said in the post you're quoting, "30 minutes here or there."

You're speaking out your arse. He does not deserve the abuse, and its become an unjust trend to hate on Gundo because of a bad spell in one season wherein our entire team was fucking horrid. It was frustrating during that period seeing him play so often, but this guy is a lad who has gone to war for us, battled through the hate, and eventually looked the part again. A leader of men who is one of the main reasons we have had such highs as City fans.

If he wants more minutes, he will happily leave. I think he will be perfect for the role I anticipate him having this season. Nobody I'd rather have.
 
bell_mcfc said:
Agreed. If he wants to play every game and we can’t offer him that then fair play I hope the club let him move. Which I think is the case with Nico O’Reilly coming through.

Gundo is a legend.
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Christ on a bike, everyone is so precious on here. It’s all to be taken in a pinch of salt. We know how important Gundo has been in our past, not quite a legend but one hell of a servant to the club. However, he is now surplus to requirements and potentially hampering other players breaking through, nothing more serious than that. If we could have an unlimited squad then great stick around, but we know how important every place is on that list and when players have to go out on loan because of old guard sticking around then that doesn’t help and everyone starts moaning about why we sign these youngsters and ship them off!
 
blueparrot said:
IF Akanji is going along with one of the keepers there is no real urgency for Gundogan to leave,especially with Kovacic still out, so as long as he understands his position in the squad and he can work with the younger players and is happy with it then no problems having him around the squad.
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Yeah I’d be very happy with that to be honest.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Christ on a bike, everyone is so precious on here. It’s all to be taken in a pinch of salt. We know how important Gundo has been in our past, not quite a legend but one hell of a servant to the club. However, he is now surplus to requirements and potentially hampering other players breaking through, nothing more serious than that. If we could have an unlimited squad then great stick around, but we know how important every place is on that list and when players have to go out on loan because of old guard sticking around then that doesn’t help and everyone starts moaning about why we sign these youngsters and ship them off!
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Haha oh I get the process and like I said if he can’t get the minutes I hope the club move him on…

I want Nico O’Reilly to get a proper chance in the middle.

For me Gundo is a legend and I’m not someone that personally calls a lot of players legends. He was our captain during the treble season which he was fantastic. He won us the FA cup final in that run, won us the league the year before with the goals against Villa.

I’m happy if he moves on, I’m not happy with how some fans criticism of him. I thought the year he was Barca and how openly he spoke about performance level and expectations shows his character and how important he’s been to recent success.

But everyone has different opinions.
 
bell_mcfc said:
Haha oh I get the process and like I said if he can’t get the minutes I hope the club move him on…

I want Nico O’Reilly to get a proper chance in the middle.

For me Gundo is a legend and I’m not someone that personally calls a lot of players legends. He was our captain during the treble season which he was fantastic. He won us the FA cup final in that run, won us the league the year before with the goals against Villa.

I’m happy if he moves on, I’m not happy with how some fans criticism of him. I thought the year he was Barca and how openly he spoke about performance level and expectations shows his character and how important he’s been to recent success.

But everyone has different opinions.
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I know mate, but lots moaned about not giving Kev a new deal, yet currently we still have all 3 of the other older mids around in Bernie, Gundo and Kova. In an ideal world we’d have moved on 2 of the remaining 3, and might well still do, but personally I’d have much preferred Echeverri getting a squad place than it being taken up by say Gundo.

There’s no way the club will want all 3 to be here by end of window, obviously Bernie going nowhere, so therefore one of the two needs to go. If Gundo chooses not to then I suppose a late move for Kova is more likely. Personally I think Kova offers us much more than Gundo.
 
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