Media discussion - 2025/26

jrb said:
The headline above the link to the full MUEN article.

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Well they sound shocked it beat Harry Potter attractions and a Loch Ness tour.
Harry Potter is shit and Scotland is fucking cold.

Only shock is it didn’t get first place.

City, City… Best stadium tour in all the land and all the world.
 
Some decent fan footage of the game including the goals except for Haalands 2nd and Bobb being a menace.

 
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Quote from the Guardian on Eze's transfer ...softening us all up for future accounting gymnastics .
Imagine the analysis if we'd just pulled the same move against Rags ?

There has been the idea that Spurs had a clear run at Eze because Arsenal, after spending around £200m on six other signings, would need to raise money via sales before they could make a bid. Well, they have sold nobody and still pushed the button. Unless Arsenal have a sale or two lined up, could it be that they have more financial headroom than they have let on?
 
surprisedbygrass said:
Quote from the Guardian on Eze's transfer ...softening us all up for future accounting gymnastics .
Imagine the analysis if we'd just pulled the same move against Rags ?

There has been the idea that Spurs had a clear run at Eze because Arsenal, after spending around £200m on six other signings, would need to raise money via sales before they could make a bid. Well, they have sold nobody and still pushed the button. Unless Arsenal have a sale or two lined up, could it be that they have more financial headroom than they have let on?
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Or a woman’s team to sell….
 
surprisedbygrass said:
Quote from the Guardian on Eze's transfer ...softening us all up for future accounting gymnastics .
Imagine the analysis if we'd just pulled the same move against Rags ?

There has been the idea that Spurs had a clear run at Eze because Arsenal, after spending around £200m on six other signings, would need to raise money via sales before they could make a bid. Well, they have sold nobody and still pushed the button. Unless Arsenal have a sale or two lined up, could it be that they have more financial headroom than they have let on?
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More interest free loans from Stan Kroenke.
 
Submitted a FOI about Simon Stone's role to the BBC
Hello

This is a request for information under the FoI Act 2000 which has a public body BBC is mandated to supply

I would like information on the following for the period 2010 to 2025 inclusive

Simon Stone is titled as Chief Football News Reporter

1) What is Stone’s brief reporting football as a football news reporter

2) The leagues he covers, Is it just England or the UK or Europe?

3) Is Stone based at BBC Salford?

4) Which PL clubs are under the remit of Stone?

5) Stone attends PL manager’s press conferences in his BBC role, for which clubs?

6) Does Stone attend any other press conferences outside of the PL

7) Supply the figures for the number of press conferences he attended broken down to individual clubs

8) How many articles has Stone published broken down to individuals clubs

9) How many pre and post season tours has Stone travelled to, broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

10) How many times as Stone travelled to cover a club in a UEFA competition broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

11) How many matches has Stone attended in his professional role broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

12) Which football club is Stone a fan of? This is relevant to establish a bias which is contradictory to the BBC Charter


Here's is their reply
We have carefully considered your request and concluded that it is clear from your de-

scription of the information you are seeking that if the BBC held information of the kind

you have asked for, it would all be held for the purposes of journalism, art or literature.

The FOI Act does not apply to information held by the BBC for any of those purposes. This

is explained in an information sheet enclosed with this letter. To be clear, in this case we

have not searched for any information since any that we found would be non-disclosable,

and the searches would not serve any useful purpose.

However on this occasion, we are happy to voluntarily provide the below information in

response to your request:

“Simon Stone's role is chief football news reporter for BBC Sport. He reports on some of

the biggest stories in the world of football and is also one of a group of journalists that

cover specific Premier League clubs. Part of Simon's role is to cover key events involving

Manchester United, and this is the same as our other journalists following their assigned

club at key times. We can assure you that we’re always mindful of the costs behind putting

together our output, while at the same time trying to provide the best possible service to

audiences.”

Ive followed up with a request for a list of journalist allocated to specific PL clubs and how many tours they have been on


They have denied right of internal appeal, so I will take it to the information commissioner
 
Tracking back said:
Those two ran out of material years ago.

That double act of Carragher & Neville only really works if both their respective teams are competing for the same prizes.

If things continue as they are, they'll soon be competing in different leagues.

As it stands Neville is the fall guy who has to endure the smug remarks from Carragher while trying to appear magnanimous.
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Completely agree but I was making a slightly different point

Their fans might dislike each other, but Neville in particular is astute enough to realise that by working together they can play to the clickbait gallery and perpetuate the myth that United-Liverpool has always been the biggest fixture in the English football calendar, whilst simultaneously referencing organic growth and sportswashing as though they're somehow morally superior

They think we've forgotten the 1950s when they weren't even in the same division or the 1970s when Leeds United were the team that everyone wanted to beat.

They think we don't notice when the rags publish a 72,000 attendance for their FA Cup defeat against Fulham before revising it the following morning.(once the laughter has died down) to a more realistic figure of 65,000

They think we don't notice Neville's carefully reversed one-liners "Chelsea bottle jobs" etc when he can justify the insults on his own show and then be quoted in the mainstream media
"Let the chaos begin" was how he began a recent United-Liverpool game, simply desperate for something spectacular to happen

They think we don't notice when Carragher compares Liverpool's net spend with City's gross spend as though it's a serious comparison

The funniest moment from last season was when Neville backed himself into a corner after United had lost at Tottenham and did what all rags do when they've lost the argument
Refer to size!

"I know it's controversial but Tottenham are bigger than City"

Like we give a flying fuck

For the moment we have to grin and bear it, but all the school kids are wearing City shirts.
Tick Tock
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Completely agree but I was making a slightly different point

Their fans might dislike each other, but Neville in particular is astute enough to realise that by working together they can play to the clickbait gallery and perpetuate the myth that United-Liverpool has always been the biggest fixture in the English football calendar, whilst simultaneously referencing organic growth and sportswashing as though they're somehow morally superior

They think we've forgotten the 1950s when they weren't even in the same division or the 1970s when Leeds United were the team that everyone wanted to beat.

They think we don't notice when the rags publish a 72,000 attendance for their FA Cup defeat against Fulham before revising it the following morning.(once the laughter has died down) to a more realistic figure of 65,000

They think we don't notice Neville's carefully reversed one-liners "Chelsea bottle jobs" etc when he can justify the insults on his own show and then be quoted in the mainstream media
"Let the chaos begin" was how he began a recent United-Liverpool game, simply desperate for something spectacular to happen

They think we don't notice when Carragher compares Liverpool's net spend with City's gross spend as though it's a serious comparison

The funniest moment from last season was when Neville backed himself into a corner after United had lost at Tottenham and did what all rags do when they've lost the argument
Refer to size!

"I know it's controversial but Tottenham are bigger than City"

Like we give a flying fuck

For the moment we have to grin and bear it, but all the school kids are wearing City shirts.
Tick Tock
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You make some excellent points there.

The so called history clubs as you say is one of the biggest myths in football. I'm sure I heard Neville once refer to the rags and Liverpool as "the grandparents of the game"

Talk about delusions of grandeur. What? Did football in this country only start in 1992?

The point you made about Neville and Carragher having a ready made media platform also helps them to steer the narrative.

I noticed that when I was watching Monday night football as they were discussing our opening game. I was looking forward to their analysis of Reijnders and Cherki's respective performances. However, Carragher made the whole thing about Liverpool claiming our success in the game was all down to Pep Lijnders joining us from LFC.

Unfortunately the only ex-City player that Sky Sports have on to counter those two is Richards and he's just in it for the regular income. He's also become their court jester so on the very rare occasion he does defend MCFC it's seen as City bias and laughed off.

I said it years ago that Sheikh Mansour should have bought into the media outlets when he took over at our place.

There isn’t one broadcasting company or press outlet in the country willing to swim against the tide and provide an alternative voice.

Like you rightly pointed out, it's all about instant click bait these days.
 
Tracking back said:
You make some excellent points there.

The so called history clubs as you say is one of the biggest myths in football. I'm sure I heard Neville once refer to the rags and Liverpool as "the grandparents of the game"

Talk about delusions of grandeur. What? Did football in this country only start in 1992?

The point you made about Neville and Carragher having a ready made media platform also helps them to steer the narrative.

I noticed that when I was watching Monday night football as they were discussing our opening game. I was looking forward to their analysis of Reijnders and Cherki's respective performances. However, Carragher made the whole thing about Liverpool claiming our success in the game was all down to Pep Lijnders joining us from LFC.

Unfortunately the only ex-City player that Sky Sports have on to counter those two is Richards and he's just in it for the regular income. He's also become their court jester so on the very rare occasion he does defend MCFC it's seen as City bias and laughed off.

I said it years ago that Sheikh Mansour should have bought into the media outlets when he took over at our place.

There isn’t one broadcasting company or press outlet in the country willing to swim against the tide and provide an alternative voice.

Like you rightly pointed out, it's all about instant click bait these days.
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Agree completely with you.
But, look at the BBC's obsession (Simon Stone especially) with the Trafford Tramps and how other football fans are getting pissed off with their continual coverage.
Younger fans are voting with their feet, with both the BBC & Sky losing subscribers/viewers.
Think Sky will surely soon realise that Neville & Carragher have had their day and will get new anchor persons & match commentators...
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
Agree completely with you.
But, look at the BBC's obsession (Simon Stone especially) with the Trafford Tramps and how other football fans are getting pissed off with their continual coverage.
Younger fans are voting with their feet, with both the BBC & Sky losing subscribers/viewers.
Think Sky will surely soon realise that Neville & Carragher have had their day and will get new anchor persons & match commentators...
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Love that.

I think you might be onto something there PL 59 especially, with our younger fans voting with their feet against the BBC & Sky.

I'm getting on a bit myself in years, so I tend to rely on "Sly" Sports (as I like to call them) for my updates, transfer gossip and what not.

However, my two lads who are big City fans (obviously) will often shake their heads as they walk past me while I'm berating some mouthpiece spouting off about Liverpool's net spend or how good it's going to be this season for the rags.

They have nothing but contempt for Sly Sports and the mainstream media. In fact they refer to Sky Sports as CBeebies for old men. They've got a point to be fair because the bloody thing is on a one hour loop.

They seem to get far more accurate news from other platforms and they often tell me about a signing or some breaking news long before it appears on the yellow band running across the bottom of my TV screen.

Anyway, as you rightly pointed out the majority of our next generation can see what's going on and it shouldn't be that long now before we see a new order throughout the footballing fraternity.
 
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