City attacking face value sites - cultural war on supporters ?

[Blue Maverick]

Don't worry mate.

If City do lose 115, and City are either demoted or deducted points which could force relegation, we've got 50,000 diehards who will still stick by the club and follow the team regardless of all the flak, stick and abuse we'll get home and away in the Championship. That still leaves 12,000 empty seats to fill at the Etihad for the home games in the Championship .

Part of me wants that to happen and show these twats in charge who we really are, let’s see the tourists fuck off, they’ll soon want to sell 50k season tickets then won’t they. Part of me hopes the new stand or large swathes become empty, I guarantee if Pep has another shit season we could be in for a fair few years without trophies and the youth of today move on to their next shiny team on Tik Tok. We aren’t as big our owners think, maybe try this in 30 years when plane loads are flying in like to the swamp, we don’t have that following yet and maybe never will.
Let’s see how the CL plays out this year, it’s my last year in the scheme and if it’s pissing down I’ll fuck my ticket back off to City let’s see them try and sell a dead rubber game if we’ve qualified, most of the games are against the same bloody teams these days for a sham of a competition, empty seats everywhere,
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[Dodge]

I read this thread, and similar threads, and I honestly don’t think we deserve our owners. We just don’t.

Mate, you've been posting on this forum for as long as I have, 17 years and counting.

We do deserve our owners, its been a mutually rewarding relationship for years. But something has changed, decisions are being made at board level that are designed to rid the Club of its core support...the very support that attracted SM to our Club in the first place. Motivated purely by greed and the globalisation of Manchester City FC. It's the absolute duty of any Blue to call this out and do their bit to protect future generations of supporters.

I'm a Blue because my Dad was a season ticket holder. He was a Blue because his Dad took him to Maine Road.

If any local Dad wants to do the same for his kids nowadays, not a chance. All we want is to be able to do the things that generations of Blue family and friends have done for donkeys.

Isn't that worth fighting for?

 

[wearethesouthstand]

Branches of 250 members often get 2 tickets so I am not sure about spares to transfer mate.

I’m in contact with plenty of people within branches Tim so no need to try and disprove anything I have written.

You also don’t need to be spokesman for the OSC ! There was a motion to reveal how many branches get tickets on Sunday I believe and that was rejected by the committee- even though it’s a source of angst for many.

Only way to prove the figure you claim is if they are made available to all branches.

 

[philiph20]

Shut up you complete and utter Bellwhiff.

another lickspittle lubed up for Khaldoon and Soriano I see, f you!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I’m in contact with plenty of people within branches Tim so no need to try and disprove anything I have written.

You also don’t need to be spokesman for the OSC ! There was a motion to reveal how many branches get tickets on Sunday I believe and that was rejected by the committee- even though it’s a source of angst for many.

Only way to prove the figure you claim is if they are made available to all branches.

I don’t need to prove anything mate. I run a Branch that’s had 250 plus members for the last 2 full seasons and we typically got 2 ticket per League game.

I was at the AGM.

That’s not really the point. The issue in the thread was about spares. The Branch that brought the motion wouldn’t have done so if tickets were plentiful. Unless you have inside knowledge that the Branch were claiming they receive too many tickets.

 

[There is a Light]

My uncle a mad red said to me after the take over, you will become like us one day. I said not a chance - family club, local supporters, etc. How wrong was I.

Not everything like them, we’re still in Manchester. Not Trafford.

 

[There is a Light]

Wow. Just, wow.

You think Wilson shouldn’t be called out?

He’s overseen all of the disconnect over the las 15 years

I read this thread, and similar threads, and I honestly don’t think we deserve our owners. We just don’t.

i’m alright jack

 

[ysmsa]

Nneed to fu

It’s so transparent that they’re doing this to avoid missing out on revenue.

If security or fan safety is genuinely their concern, then why not allow fans to ‘sell’ their season cards to friends at face value on their website? It’s an easy solution, but clearly doesn't tick the matchday revenue box. all these rules off.

Need to fuck all these rules off.

Just make the S/T holder responsible for its use.

Had a S/T for near 40 years, used it pretty much every time apart from maybe giving it our kid once or twice if I couldn't make it.

No one in the right mind would lend or sell a S/T to a Dickhead who may get you banned.

 

[wearethesouthstand]

I don’t need to prove anything mate. I run a Branch that’s had 250 plus members for the last 2 full seasons and we typically got 2 ticket per League game.

I was at the AGM.

That’s not really the point. The issue in the thread was about spares. The Branch that brought the motion wouldn’t have done so if tickets were plentiful. Unless you have inside knowledge that the Branch were claiming they receive too many tickets.

Nothing to do with how plentiful they are mate it’s about how they were allocated, to ensure fairness no mater what the allocation is - home or away - we’ve visited many branches and 3 or 4 have said the same thing - we’ve said nothing to do with us, raise internally, OSC don’t interfere in 1894 and vice versa.

We agree that this shouldn’t be happening towards fans on these pages. Let’s stick to what we agree on, take things from there.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Part of the problem with the mistakes made by Soriano, Wilson and de Vries is that they should have stuck to football and the business of football.

For example, we have the threat of facial recognition in future seasons because they ran a Dragon’s Den type competition yonks ago and have let the successful bidders ideas build a momentum that will probably damage the Club.

In addition, NFC tech has failed for stadium entry with Android phones at sports grounds internationally, and they still pursued it.

The Face Value pages were relatively unmolested in recent years because they took a bit of the heat off City’s overstretched ticket office / fan support (for thousands of fans). It’s a big risk trying to end the Face Value pages.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Nothing to do with how plentiful they are mate it’s about how they were allocated, to ensure fairness no mater what the allocation is - home or away - we’ve visited many branches and 3 or 4 have said the same thing - we’ve said nothing to do with us, raise internally, OSC don’t interfere in 1894 and vice versa.

We agree that this shouldn’t be happening towards fans on these pages. Let’s stick to what we agree on, take things from there.

I’m on here as a long standing user of Man City Face Vakue Tickets & Travel mate. I’m glad to see 1894 raising the great work done by Daz Clarke etc and unfortunately how it’s under threat.

 

[ysmsa]

Ssomebody

I had a look on the page and the email from the club states "moving forwards, tickets need to be listed on the exchange"

This is what they are stopping, they want us to put our ticket on the exchange, they pay 1/19th of your season ticket price and they list it for hundreds elsewhere. I said after the ticket freeze that it was a result but I also warned City will have something up their sleeve to make up for it and here we are. Scum

Somebody needs to make a Legal challenge.

It's not just us, all the top PL sides are up to these tricks.

The PL issue the fixtures at the start of the season. All ko's are 15:00 Saturday, with the odd midweek fixture.

It's a complete work of fiction, means fuck all!

Basically, a S/T holder is meant to put their life on hold for 10 months of the year because most of the published ko times and dates will be changed.

What other business / activity acts likes this and treats paying "customers" this way?

 

[Berti No Show]

I'm currently in touch with the FSA who are helping me with my appeal against my 3 year club ban.

@Berti No Show - hope you don't mind but I sent your post to the FSA this afternoon, as it articulates perfectly the current attack on our fanbase. They commented that it's a similar situation at EVERY PL club and it's THE highest FSA priority to get Clubs to act as custodians, rather than pursuing the current policy, which appears to be the active culling of English fan culture.

They also commented on how brilliantly you put that together.

No problem at all mate, I’m glad you shared it. If it helps your case even a little, then it was worth writing. I’m really encouraged to hear the FSA are on this, because they’re right. This isn’t just City, it’s happening at every Premier League club and we need to stick together on this. Clubs should be looking after their fans, not trying to cull them.

I genuinely feel for you with the ban, it’s completely wrong. Loyal supporters being punished while the club turns a blind eye elsewhere is exactly the hypocrisy we’ve all been talking about in this thread. I hope the FSA back you to the hilt and get you back in the stands where you belong.

 

[GOULDYBOBS]

I've mentioned if elsewhere but I rely on blues from here and mates for tickets.

If I pay for membership can I still do this?

 

[The Mighty Marmoush]

Mate, you've been posting on this forum for as long as I have, 17 years and counting.

We do deserve our owners, its been a mutually rewarding relationship for years. But something has changed, decisions are being made at board level that are designed to rid the Club of its core support...the very support that attracted SM to our Club in the first place. Motivated purely by greed and the globalisation of Manchester City FC. It's the absolute duty of any Blue to call this out and do their bit to protect future generations of supporters.

I'm a Blue because my Dad was a season ticket holder. He was a Blue because his Dad took him to Maine Road.

If any local Dad wants to do the same for his kids nowadays, not a chance. All we want is to be able to do the things that generations of Blue family and friends have done for donkeys.

Isn't that worth fighting for?

When we beat villa 3-2 to win the league, loads of chinese sat in front of me stormed the pitch at the final whistle, I know 4 people who got banning orders that day for 3 years, season ticket holders and all local, no chance of getting season tickets back, I can see what the club are doing, what do people think the hotel is for? Not for us locals, and the hotel and development needs paying for, our club is bit by bit getting taken away from us, would the tourist be there like I was sat on the white wall and buying a bovril and fish and chip crisps from the guy that used to come round at half time, I get football is money, but dont piss on the fans that helped get you to that position

 

[Lavinda Past]

When we beat villa 3-2 to win the league, loads of chinese sat in front of me stormed the pitch at the final whistle, I know 4 people who got banning orders that day for 3 years, season ticket holders and all local, no chance of getting season tickets back, I can see what the club are doing, what do people think the hotel is for? Not for us locals, and the hotel and development needs paying for, our club is bit by bit getting taken away from us, would the tourist be there like I was sat on the white wall and buying a bovril and fish and chip crisps from the guy that used to come round at half time, I get football is money, but dont piss on the fans that helped get you to that position

The owners wouldn't piss on the fans if we were on fire. They really don't care about anything but money and their own image.

Horrible people.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Is this thread solely for people who pay and go?

 

[Lord Blue]

Mate, you've been posting on this forum for as long as I have, 17 years and counting.

We do deserve our owners, its been a mutually rewarding relationship for years. But something has changed, decisions are being made at board level that are designed to rid the Club of its core support...the very support that attracted SM to our Club in the first place. Motivated purely by greed and the globalisation of Manchester City FC. It's the absolute duty of any Blue to call this out and do their bit to protect future generations of supporters.

I'm a Blue because my Dad was a season ticket holder. He was a Blue because his Dad took him to Maine Road.

If any local Dad wants to do the same for his kids nowadays, not a chance. All we want is to be able to do the things that generations of Blue family and friends have done for donkeys.

Isn't that worth fighting for?

Maybe I just don’t see it the way some do. For me there seems to be a change in fan attitudes. I don’t think the club are against us at all. I think it’s fan perception. I’m of the opinion that our owners are amongst the most receptive and fan focussed out there.

 

[Lord Blue]

You think Wilson shouldn’t be called out?

He’s overseen all of the disconnect over the las 15 years

i’m alright jack

Not at all a case of I’m alright jack. I just disagree with a lot of the moaning.

 

[bluesmith]

Not at all a case of I’m alright jack. I just disagree with a lot of the moaning.

Do you think it's reasonable that a blue who sold their ticket for spurs for face value to a fellow blue got a 10 match ban (reduced to 5) for doing so?

Do you think it's reasonable that people who work shifts are now at risk of losing their season tickets because matches are moved to times they have to work?

Do you think it's reasonable that people have to queue for over an hour to get a ticket that works after theirs didn't due to a system that hadn't been properly tested?

Do you think it's reasonable that at least one person with disabilities wasn't capable of doing the above so missed the match and now has a strike against their name which if they get a couple more will result in them losing their season ticket?