City attacking face value sites - cultural war on supporters ?

Marvin. said:
Just as long as there isn't a belief forming that Asian fans at City are likely to be tourists or a problem. Manchester has a huge Asian community, and they are welcome at City. If you go to some football clubs in other Northern cities you won't find that. That is a strength of Manchester.
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My son is half asian, no one gives a fuck as long as they're blues.give it a rest you boring sod.
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
We've hit a bump - let's see how the tourists react
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They'll react alright but the telling thing will be when we stall the spin we are in, the local/legacy/usual fans might just take the place of the 3rd party tourists and day trippers but I genuinely feel when the good times roll again the club would sacrifice those taking up the slack for welcoming the glory hunters back again.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I started an informal ticket exchange for home tickets when we were up to around 250 members. There is always some members away with work, holidays or illness. It relies on City’s ticket transfer system. The tickets have to be face value or less and it’s usually less. Virtually all the members have at least a match day membership but sometimes we get a few friends of members to help fill the coach who just go to the odd game who might not have the paid membership. They have got cheap tickets from us in the past.

The expansion of guaranteed refund games on the Official Exchange might limit spare ticket availability in future but in cans we that benefits some fans.

FWIW, We’ve had a reduction in the number of members buying individual tickets when several members got for flexi-golds.
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Thanks for that, so it’s your branch rather than an OSC wide system.

From our point of view we strive for the atmosphere so anything that gets proper blues into the stadium where they are likely to know the songs and contribute to the atmosphere- exactly what we want.
 
mexico1970 said:
They'll react alright but the telling thing will be when we stall the spin we are in, the local/legacy/usual fans might just take the place of the 3rd party tourists and day trippers but I genuinely feel when the good times roll again the club would sacrifice those taking up the slack for welcoming the glory hunters back again.
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Unfortunately spot on - I think alot of us have said "we're a business these days".
Soriano was brought in from barca because he knows how to sell to "tourists" and maximise income.
So once we turn the corner, if things had changed they change back fuckin sharpish
Edit: meandered off track. So long as someone isn't passing a ticket onto a known hooligan, if you can't make it it should be your choice what happens to a ticket you paid for - it's not like there's "points whoring" anymore
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Unfortunately spot on - I think alot of us have said "we're a business these days".
Soriano was brought in from barca because he knows how to sell to "tourists" and maximise income.
So once we turn the corner, if things had changed they change back fuckin sharpish
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Give it a few weeks and the club will roll back some of the prerequisites to get your hands on a ticket, FFW 3 months or so and the results improve they'll have their hand up the trousers of anyone caring to listen and forget those who are really arsed.

The perfect storm would be for the PL charges to go against us, and the club left with a huge stadium with nobody to fill it.
 
wearethesouthstand said:
Thanks for that, so it’s your branch rather than an OSC wide system.

From our point of view we strive for the atmosphere so anything that gets proper blues into the stadium where they are likely to know the songs and contribute to the atmosphere- exactly what we want.
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Yes just the Branch mate.
 
franksinatra said:
If I phoned the club up tomorrow, and advise I won’t make 10 home matches this year, is there anyway they will take my season ticket off me now?
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Well you will go against United, Liverpool and Arsenal. No problem with that everyone want the see City against the best.
People usually want to go to the last game Villa in this case . That's 4 games
So it just leaves you to find time to go to 6 extra games over a 9 months or so period
So surely you can manage that , I take it you live far away , just cut out the midweek away games.
im just trying to put a positive slant on on season ticket holders trying to make the 10 games.
 
deafmanstevo said:
Well you will go against United, Liverpool and Arsenal. No problem with that everyone want the see City against the best.
People usually want to go to the last game Villa in this case . That's 4 games
So it just leaves you to find time to go to 6 extra games over a 9 months or so period
So surely you can manage that , I take it you live far away , just cut out the midweek away games.
im just trying to put a positive slant on on season ticket holders trying to make the 10 games.
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Should have said the midweek home games doh
 
deafmanstevo said:
Well you will go against United, Liverpool and Arsenal. No problem with that everyone want the see City against the best.
People usually want to go to the last game Villa in this case . That's 4 games
So it just leaves you to find time to go to 6 extra games over a 9 months or so period
So surely you can manage that , I take it you live far away , just cut out the midweek away games.
im just trying to put a positive slant on on season ticket holders trying to make the 10 games.
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I did write that message firmly tongue in cheek after today’s result.

However on a more serious point I think with the Friday night matches, Sunday evening games (plus 3 already booked in for midweek) making 10 will be more difficult than previous seasons. For the record yes it’s a 500 mile round trip for home matches. Appreciate the positivity.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I'm not defending the club here but whether we like it or not, selling football tickets without authority from the club is a criminal offence, regardless of whether they're at, above or below face value. That's the position and I'm a bit surprised the club has let it go on as long as this.

There's also pressure from the PL to adhere to their Rule R.16 which requires member clubs to ensure, as far as practicably possible, they know who is in the stadium and have their contact details. This is what's behind the restriction on transferring tickets.

The club therefore is acting within the law of the land and the rules set by the organisation which regulates the competition we play in.

Having said that, I think the rules are ridiculous and football fans are yet again being discriminated against in a way that fans of other sports aren't. I don't have to provide my contact details if I go to a concert, the cinema or a pub.

I think we'd all agree that we don't want tickets ending up in the hands of touts, including the legal ones like viagogo. But there's surely a happy medium where it's not like something out of 1984.

There's two issues here that we as fans need to attack. The biggest is Rule R.16 and I contacted the FSA over this. It's excessive and draconian and needs to be challenged by a broad coalition of fan groups. We also need to challenge the club's over-zealous approach to enforcing R.16, which is somewhat hypocritical when they rarely bother enforcing the rule that requires them to turn up on time for the second half.

My suggestion is that 1894 Group works with the OSC and City Matters, and the FSA, to challenge Rule R.16 with fan groups from other PL clubs, collate data on how those other clubs are dealing with this issue and challenge any inconsistency in City's approach.
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Re R.16.................rhetorical question but to Players and all the others receiving free tickets from the club inform the Club who they've passed their free tickets onto? If not R.16 is breached by those whom the Club freely give tickets to.................make that 116!
 
Just had the email from the 1894 lot and it refers to this amongst others good things
Top bunch, keep up the good work all
CTID
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Not sure if this is the right thread but yet another club using 'patners' to move tickets while shitting on the core support.

Newcastle v Barcelona tickets bought by Dundee school - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/czdjlnr7dr6o
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Tough one that as every club needs the next generation hooked on their club. Even if they've used a partner to get the tickets. Those kids might want to support Newcastle and carry on going

Wouldn't get anyone moaning if it wasn't the Barcelona game but in the same breath would they take 45 tickets If it wasn't Barcelona?
 
Originals said:
Tough one that as every club needs the next generation hooked on their club. Even if they've used a partner to get the tickets. Those kids might want to support Newcastle and carry on going

Wouldn't get anyone moaning if it wasn't the Barcelona game but in the same breath would they take 45 tickets If it wasn't Barcelona?
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My main trigger was potentially how many partners do Newcastle have...as we know it's a slippery slope if they're following our ticketing strategy especially for what many up there would see as the biggest game of the year.... maybe that's Sunderland tho.

Personally midweek games such as Bournemouth at home for them should be falling into the kids area as they could cover the lack of an away following.
 
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