PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

bobbyowenquiff said:
What has happened to Paqueta is very similar. He has been slaughtered for two years in the media. Even the FA lawyers now admit they were out of order. The FA had no evidence from the start, just hearsay and gossip. There was no independent scrutiny of the allegations and no one in our corrupt media even bothered asking questions. They just followed the FA propaganda. Sounds very familiar.
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Would never have happened to a Dipper or a Rag
 
malg said:
Would never have happened to a Dipper or a Rag
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Correct. There is something very wrong in this country. There have been repeated instances in the legal system, civil and criminal, of people being stitched up by the authorities and the media being complicit in the process. The innocent Post Masters were pilloried for decades until one brilliant journalist on a small computer magazine took up their case. How can the old men in blazers at the FA be able to destroy a persons life with no valid evidence?
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
What has happened to Paqueta is very similar. He has been slaughtered for two years in the media. Even the FA lawyers now admit they were out of order. The FA had no evidence from the start, just hearsay and gossip. There was no independent scrutiny of the allegations and no one in our corrupt media even bothered asking questions. They just followed the FA propaganda. Sounds very familiar.
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That's the point of an investigation though, similar to ours when Der Spiegel published the emails. UEFA & the PL had to at least ask questions, an actual charge is separate and will be based on the evidence (or should be).

Of course they should be entirely confidential, perhaps even if a charge follows until a decision is made. I wonder if Paqueta's had to made public when we were trying to sign him as they had to advise us of an issue? I am of the mind that the court who decided ours being published was "in the public interest" were wrong.
 
Centurions said:
That's the point of an investigation though, similar to ours when Der Spiegel published the emails. UEFA & the PL had to at least ask questions, an actual charge is separate and will be based on the evidence (or should be).

Of course they should be entirely confidential, perhaps even if a charge follows until a decision is made. I wonder if Paqueta's had to made public when we were trying to sign him as they had to advise us of an issue? I am of the mind that the court who decided ours being published was "in the public interest" were wrong.
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But UEFA had no evidence.They did not even have the emails which were later discredited anyway. They tried to get us to settle for a deal when we had done nothing wrong. People on the IC committee leaked false information to the media to try and pressurise City. We don’t know yet what evidence the PL have to back up their outlandish claims that City have fabricated false accounts for ten years. We will soon find out.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
I think you should stick to Football Manager. When exactly do you think the rebuild should have begun? After we won the CL? After four in a row? Who should have gone? When? After the CL final there was no reason on earth to break up that team. Kyle Walker had shown interest in a move to Bayern but had decided he wanted to stay. Stupid to kick him out as a punishment, especially as there was no replacement anywhere near his level. And that's still a problem now he does need replacing. City fans have doubts about Lewis as a fullback and no-one else fits the bill. As for Bernardo he too was told he could leave if he really wanted too, as long as he attracted an acceptable offer. He didn't - but you're surely not saying we should not play him, or we should get rid simply because no-one thinks he's worth what we do.

Now, that's your slow start. What then? How would it be different to what the club has done? Or will you just wait and see and if in a couple of years we haven't done another treble assure us that you were ahead of the curve, got more "pelters" from your mates but read exactly what was going to happen in your tea leaves?
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Rebuild should have begun after the treble in reality. That being said 4 in a row may not have happened so hindsight and all that. After the treble we lost Mahrez, Laporte, Gundog and Palmer. We had Walker and Bernardo who wanted to go. Walker wanted a two year contract extension (his age probably deserved one year) and he eventually got it. We realised Gundog wouldn't do it a further two years which is why he went initially, then brought the fucker back!Which would have been the second year of a two year contract that we didn't feel was worth it initially. Bernardo an offer didn't come in which was acceptable you are right, the point was we had players that left and got replaced mostly with shit.

We had players like Stones and Ake who were vital to that season but also injury prone and getting older. We won a league and bought Haaland. You can buy from a position of strength you know. Liverpool just walked a league and have spent a fortune on players to ensure that they will need to spend very little over the next few years. We employ people at the very top, people who should have seen a decline coming and an ageing squad we had and took action. It is what they are paid a fortune to do. Nothing to do with a treble, why do you happy clappers put words in peoples mouths and talk utter shit? I was not ahead of the curve because we didn't win a treble. I was way ahead of the curve because I could see, all whilst being champions and top of the league, that this team was declining. The powers that be should have to.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
But UEFA had no evidence.They did not even have the emails which were later discredited anyway. They tried to get us to settle for a deal when we had done nothing wrong. People on the IC committee leaked false information to the media to try and pressurise City. We don’t know yet what evidence the PL have to back up their outlandish claims that City have fabricated false accounts for ten years. We will soon find out.
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Soon?
 
Centurions said:
Are not agent fees (totals at least) not shown in the books nowadays? Won't be until the next one at least though.
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IIRC clubs have to declare the total they paid to agents not broken down to individual deals, will be interesting to see how much each club declares

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Gordyola said:
IIRC clubs have to declare the total they paid to agents not broken down to individual deals, will be interesting to see how much each club declares

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How is this even allowed FFS?

How did we cope prior to agents?
 
if WHU can get some compensation there is no way we cannot sue PL for all the unjust negativity the club received, potentially lost out on sponsorships with this hanging above us. players we wanted may have decided to go elsewhere for same reason. not mentioning the complete media landscape brainwashed the fans of all clubs that we have cheated which is hard to quantify surely.

also our lawyers must make the point that could PL start investigation into another 10 clubs at least because if they would like to pull 115 on any other club Im sure they could get to 4-5 charges repeated each year (so 40-50 charges in 10 years) if they wanted. but City was specifically targeted.

shocking that Chelsea self admitted some serious activity that would have turned into like 30-40 charges against City if they are charging us with those. and still not a word on Chelsea's case which 100% sure resulted in them gaining sporting advantage at the time. (like how it wouldnt, given paying agents off the book, to avoid FFP pressure but still able to sign number of players this way)

media for some reason also not much interested in Chelsea's case.
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
Rebuild should have begun after the treble in reality. That being said 4 in a row may not have happened so hindsight and all that. After the treble we lost Mahrez, Laporte, Gundog and Palmer. We had Walker and Bernardo who wanted to go. Walker wanted a two year contract extension (his age probably deserved one year) and he eventually got it. We realised Gundog wouldn't do it a further two years which is why he went initially, then brought the fucker back!Which would have been the second year of a two year contract that we didn't feel was worth it initially. Bernardo an offer didn't come in which was acceptable you are right, the point was we had players that left and got replaced mostly with shit.

We had players like Stones and Ake who were vital to that season but also injury prone and getting older. We won a league and bought Haaland. You can buy from a position of strength you know. Liverpool just walked a league and have spent a fortune on players to ensure that they will need to spend very little over the next few years. We employ people at the very top, people who should have seen a decline coming and an ageing squad we had and took action. It is what they are paid a fortune to do. Nothing to do with a treble, why do you happy clappers put words in peoples mouths and talk utter shit? I was not ahead of the curve because we didn't win a treble. I was way ahead of the curve because I could see, all whilst being champions and top of the league, that this team was declining. The powers that be should have to.
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Yet more utter nonsense. You haven't given one single reason why you believe a rebuild should have begun in 2023 apart from some drivel about "buying from a position of strength". Well, in June 2024, how much stronger do you think you could have made City? And which players would you have brought in to do it? And your assertion that our "people at the very top" did not see "a decline coming" which they should have is not only laughable but insulting. Our people at the very top do not work with a crystal ball and/or use horoscopes and they have a record few can compete with. And your assertion that "I was way ahead of the curve because I could see, all whilst being champions and top of the league, that this team was declining." is the most staggeringly arrogant thing I've ever read on Bluemoon.
 
Damanino said:
if WHU can get some compensation there is no way we cannot sue PL for all the unjust negativity the club received, potentially lost out on sponsorships with this hanging above us. players we wanted may have decided to go elsewhere for same reason. not mentioning the complete media landscape brainwashed the fans of all clubs that we have cheated which is hard to quantify surely.

also our lawyers must make the point that could PL start investigation into another 10 clubs at least because if they would like to pull 115 on any other club Im sure they could get to 4-5 charges repeated each year (so 40-50 charges in 10 years) if they wanted. but City was specifically targeted.

shocking that Chelsea self admitted some serious activity that would have turned into like 30-40 charges against City if they are charging us with those. and still not a word on Chelsea's case which 100% sure resulted in them gaining sporting advantage at the time. (like how it wouldnt, given paying agents off the book, to avoid FFP pressure but still able to sign number of players this way)

media for some reason also not much interested in Chelsea's case.
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would you start digging with the people involved in running chelsea at time
 
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