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Manc Born & Bred said:
I can give you a map as well

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Claiming ‘Palestine never existed’ is like saying the Nile never existed, the land and its people were here long before anyone started drawing borders.

Palestine isn’t a modern invention; it’s a historic region recognised by Romans, Ottomans, and generations of locals. Denying that is just more Ziotwat propaganda.

Palestinians had a name, identity, and homeland long before anyone politicised it. Erasing that history won’t make it disappear. Are you a bot or just another knuckle dragger ignorant of facts and history that has to quote other ignoramuses because you’re too thick to pick up a book or do some research with an open mind?
 
Manc Born & Bred said:
I can give you a map as well

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All of this is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what has a name, what doesn't. The fact is for more than 1000 years the vast majority, over 90 percent of people living in this 'make believe' land are Arabs. Not the same Arabs as Saudis or Moroccans. In fact Palestinian Arabs have a lot of Canaanite DNA as do the Lebanese.
They may well have been Jewish, and may well have converted first to Christianity and then later Islam.
I believe Canaanites pre dated the Jewish takeover of the same land.

Anyway of far more importance is where people's grandparents were born. Almost all Palestinians grandparents were born in the area. Something that cannot be said about Israelis.
 
robbieh said:
All of this is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what has a name, what doesn't. The fact is for more than 1000 years the vast majority, over 90 percent of people living in this 'make believe' land are Arabs. Not the same Arabs as Saudis or Moroccans. In fact Palestinian Arabs have a lot of Canaanite DNA as do the Lebanese.
They may well have been Jewish, and may well have converted first to Christianity and then later Islam.
I believe Canaanites pre dated the Jewish takeover of the same land.

Anyway of far more importance is where people's grandparents were born. Almost all Palestinians grandparents were born in the area. Something that cannot be said about Israelis.
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Don’t know if you’ve realised mate, but you’re engaging with the Hasbara troll formerly known as Eds. So you’re basically teaching calculus to a goldfish!
 
Manc Born & Bred said:
He didn't answer the question of whether he believed there should be a Jewish state.

If by the West Bank you mean Judea and Samaria then you are wrong, no such place as Palestine, never has been, and as for the rest I think you will find parts are of Israel. BTW it's the Golan Heights, you must have been thinking about Moyes maybe. Do you believe that the Jews have a right to a state?
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Clearly you didn't read my post. The Jews have a state it's called Israel. Now you can answer mine. Do the Palestinians have a right to a state?
 
BerkshireBlue said:
Clearly you didn't read my post. The Jews have a state it's called Israel. Now you can answer mine. Do the Palestinians have a right to a state?
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I know the Jews have a state my question to you is do you believe they have a right to one? Yes or no?
As for a Palestinian state, if they renounce violence, recognise the state of Israel to exist, lay down their arms, have proper elections, stop all terrorist activity then it’s something that can be discussed. But bear in mind that the vast majority of the Gazans are Egyptian or Jordanian, they have states except neither country welcomes them.
 
The blue phantom said:
I was scratching my head thinking who it was. As Eds has mentioned numerous times that Palestine doesnt exist and the West Bank belongs to Israel.

Crafty bastard. So he's changed his name but doubled down even more. Unfuckinbelieveable.
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He’s a duplicitous little snake. This bullshit says it all. No morals, ethics or integrity, just like the loons in the terrorist state he supports.
 
Manc Born & Bred said:
I know the Jews have a state my question to you is do you believe they have a right to one? Yes or no?
As for a Palestinian state, if they renounce violence, recognise the state of Israel to exist, lay down their arms, have proper elections, stop all terrorist activity then it’s something that can be discussed. But bear in mind that the vast majority of the Gazans are Egyptian or Jordanian, they have states except neither country welcomes them.
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Of course they have a right to a state. Its people we are talking about. Such a stupid question to ask. Why are you giving conditions fir the Palestinian state to exist. I presume you agree for all Jews to be removed from the West Bank and Gaza as well for this state to exist. Also the Jews need to stop bombing all areas and return the Palestinian hostages they are holding and vice versa. To be honest you are making this a Jews vs Palestinian thing when its actually Israelians vs Palestinians. Bringing religion into it is just dumb
 
BerkshireBlue said:
Of course they have a right to a state. Its people we are talking about. Such a stupid question to ask. Why are you giving conditions fir the Palestinian state to exist. I presume you agree for all Jews to be removed from the West Bank and Gaza as well for this state to exist. Also the Jews need to stop bombing all areas and return the Palestinian hostages they are holding and vice versa. To be honest you are making this a Jews vs Palestinian thing when its actually Israelians vs Palestinians. Bringing religion into it is just dumb
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Well at least you admit to being a Zionist, thank you. You are correct of course when you say it isn't a Jew v Palestinian thing, so maybe you can tell me why Jews all over the world are being targeted. Just remember this on October 7 2023 just hours after the attack by Hamas on Israel which was still going on the Palestine Solidarity Campaign applied to the Met Police to march in protest a week later. I will say again, this was as the slaughter of innocent civilians was still continuing. What were they protesting about at this point? This isn't about a Palestinian state, it's about the extermination of all Jews worldwide. It's the left wing useful idiots around the world who have made it a Jews v Palestinian issue.

And why do you think conditions need to exist for a state. Hamas and its supporters have already said they will repeat October 7 again and again regardless of whether they are given a state. Do you think that type of rhetoric is correct. Israel are not holding any hostages they are prisoners. The two people shot dead today who committed the act of terrorism were released early as part of hostage deal. So much for renouncing terrorism and they were actually really sweet boys. At least their families will be paid each month by the PA as part of their slay and pay policy and presumably they will have 72 virgins waiting for them so every cloud.

I think we should just agree to disagree although I am delighted you admit to being a Zionist.
 
Bluemoon_420 said:
There I was wondering where’s this muppet sprung up from and lo and behold it’s none other than the boards no.1 genocide advocating zio. What’s with the name change lol!?!
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Absolute text book zionist deception tactics. I've run this video by Grok who confirms that all of the changes of names are correct:



Here is someone who is genuine:

 
Bluemoon_420 said:
He’s a duplicitous little snake. This bullshit says it all. No morals, ethics or integrity, just like the loons in the terrorist state he supports.
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Its ok by the end of tonight he will be posting "proof" that Eds never existed and he has been called Manc Born & Bred for 3000 years after God gave him that name ............................
 
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