City attacking face value sites - cultural war on supporters ?

[Chappie]

The hospitality tickets you see on viagogo, especially ones where the "upscale restaurant" is offsite, are tickets that season ticket holders that have exchanged their tickets back through the club who have then resold it on to their ticketing partners. Legalised touting

They are not season ticket exchanges .

 

[Quinny851]

They are not season ticket exchanges .

No?? Hospitality ticket with a seat in block 328?

 

[Chappie]

No?? Hospitality ticket with a seat in block 328?

City hold back 100s of tickets at the back of level 3 on East and Colin Bell.
Most are sold as offsite hospitality or sold through their ticket partners
How could they operate a hospitality package through the season ticket exchange .
They don't know how many season tickets will come back for each match or when they will.be put on the exchange by people who can't attend.

 

[East Level 2]

The Newcastle situation is as simple as the school and club partnering in something and then promised tickets to the first Champions League game at St James Park which just so happens to be Barcelona. Reality is it could of been anyone. Nothing would have been said if it was Leipzig for example.

I hope you're not suggesting that fans (of any club) turn up to watch the opposition rather than the team they claim to support?

 

[Quinny851]

City hold back 100s of tickets at the back of level 3 on East and Colin Bell.
Most are sold as offsite hospitality or sold through their ticket partners
How could they operate a hospitality package through the season ticket exchange .
They don't know how many season tickets will come back for each match or when they will.be put on the exchange by people who can't attend.

I don't agree. They might hold back tickets to sell through their reseller partners but these will be listed as genuine hospitality tickets and they normally have City's badge on the advert, well, they do on viagogo.

They could operate a hospitality package quite easily because to guarantee a refund for 12 of the 19 home matches, season ticket holders must have listed their tickets to be exchanged no later than 10 days before the fixture. The off site upscale restaurant is usually Tast or at least it was last season so that's quite a convenient, easy package to negotiate isn't it?

 

[Chappie]

I don't agree. They might hold back tickets to sell through their reseller partners but these will be listed as genuine hospitality tickets and they normally have City's badge on the advert, well, they do on viagogo.

They could operate a hospitality package quite easily because to guarantee a refund for 12 of the 19 home matches, season ticket holders must have listed their tickets to be exchanged no later than 10 days before the fixture. The off site upscale restaurant is usually Tast or at least it was last season so that's quite a convenient, easy package to negotiate isn't it?

It's your right to disagree but you are wrong.
As a ex employee I know I will leave it there.

 

[PitchInvader BHA away1983]

It's a sensible thing for the club to have to have joined before a draw for a compy.

Of course City could also have done it on points, someone with X,000 points would be a safe bet but, that would have created work/pressing a button on the criteria program.

There's a lot of things wrong with the system like you having to pay just to join but, I don't really want to see a sea of yellow/red when we play later in the league.

Thanks for your comments

As I mentioned before it’s only a small problem for me :0)

I think I have a strategy to overcome the problem with the date issue regarding the Champions League draw??

I was a lapsed Matchday Member before the 27.08.2025., with history and ticket purchases, so I should qualify??

As of the 5th September 2025, I became a current Matchday Member, problem solved, hopefully :0)

 

[PitchInvader BHA away1983]

The Newcastle situation is as simple as the school and club partnering in something and then promised tickets to the first Champions League game at St James Park which just so happens to be Barcelona. Reality is it could of been anyone. Nothing would have been said if it was Leipzig for example.

Why and what benefits do Newcastle get with partnering with a Fee Paying Private school in Dundee ??

 

[franksinatra]

I hope you're not suggesting that fans (of any club) turn up to watch the opposition rather than the team they claim to support?

I think it’s obvious, regardless of what team you suppprt, watching your own team against a better side/rival etc adds a bit more to the experience. Doesn’t mean you’re there to watch them.

 

[East Level 2]

I think it’s obvious, regardless of what team you suppprt, watching your own team against a better side/rival etc adds a bit more to the experience. Doesn’t mean you’re there to watch them.

They'd have struggled 27 seasons ago when the big rivals were Fulham and Walsall.

 

[franksinatra]

They'd have struggled 27 seasons ago when the big rivals were Fulham and Walsall.

It’s all relative. Stockport in the Champ, Oldham in the Prem felt like big matches. Bolton were the side to aspire to for a few of our years in the Championship.

Remember a cracking 3-3 with Oldham, it was a proper blood and thunder derby.

 

[Oyster28catcher]

We are not going to change it but we should be considered and the club think things through for me the key points should have been
1 you have to list your ticket 2 weeks or at a pinch one week before the fuxture
2 if you are compliant with 1. Then the club reimburse 1/19th irrespective as to whether they sell it. In fact they are buying your ticket and thereby as owners of it can now do the mark uos
3 the incurred risks of the club not selling are covered by the higher mark on those sold currently appears they could afford to sell about 3 out of 5 to realise profit up we should welcome this as it adds to club revenues
4 the key legal obligation is on the club to have tight criteria in place on who buys your ticket
5 remember the club is now the owner of the ticket and you have no liability under the pass it to a mate etc if something goes wrong in the ground the club can hold you liable and take your ticket off you and or ban you
6 could consider passing it to spouse or sibling only I suppose
7 I like the idea of the club placing some tickets into a pool for registered city fans to access the junior blues used to do this when the capacity of Maine Road was reduced
You registered you wish for a ticket and was then considered me and my son very rarely didn’t get two tickets in the last 5 seasons at Maine Road

Some quality ideas in there. loads of logic across the whole discussion. I don't feel the club have City Matters, the OSC, and all the links spreading the message.

Perhaps every OSC and representative can direct a sound set of ideas to resolve this turgid dump of a situation.

 

[Greg.W2]

I’m in the same situation, can’t get a ticket for the Napoli or Utd games because I didn’t renew my membership until 5th September, thought it auto renewed to be honest, had one every season since I gave up my season ticket during Covid. Also been buying / transferred tickets via family & friends & not through the club for a couple seasons. Tried phoning ticket office yesterday but gave up after waiting 2 half hours, other things to do. I’ll try again today

 

[ysmsa]

Why and what benefits do Newcastle get with partnering with a Fee Paying Private school in Dundee ??

A supply of big biscuits :-)

Who remembers them, "Dundee biscuits"

A big FO chocolate biscuit.

You don't see them anymore do you?

 

[ysmsa]

We are not going to change it but we should be considered and the club think things through for me the key points should have been
1 you have to list your ticket 2 weeks or at a pinch one week before the fuxture
2 if you are compliant with 1. Then the club reimburse 1/19th irrespective as to whether they sell it. In fact they are buying your ticket and thereby as owners of it can now do the mark uos
3 the incurred risks of the club not selling are covered by the higher mark on those sold currently appears they could afford to sell about 3 out of 5 to realise profit up we should welcome this as it adds to club revenues
4 the key legal obligation is on the club to have tight criteria in place on who buys your ticket
5 remember the club is now the owner of the ticket and you have no liability under the pass it to a mate etc if something goes wrong in the ground the club can hold you liable and take your ticket off you and or ban you
6 could consider passing it to spouse or sibling only I suppose
7 I like the idea of the club placing some tickets into a pool for registered city fans to access the junior blues used to do this when the capacity of Maine Road was reduced
You registered you wish for a ticket and was then considered me and my son very rarely didn’t get two tickets in the last 5 seasons at Maine Road

If a person is liable for any trouble caused by someone they pass their ticket to.

Then the Club should be liable for trouble caused by someone who has bought a resale ticket.

A lot of resale tickets are bought by oppo fans or neutrals, people that get into disagreements with City fans.

 

[TShed]

If a person is liable for any trouble caused by someone they pass their ticket to.

Then the Club should be liable for trouble caused by someone who has bought a resale ticket.

A lot of resale tickets are bought by oppo fans or neutrals, people that get into disagreements with City fans.

That was my point

Ref 5

 

[ysmsa]

That was my point

Ref 5

But the Club won't sanction or punish themselves when it goes wrong.

Quite happy to ban or cancel S/T 's though for the slightest thing.

What appears to have started as good intent has got far too complicated. Usually the way where £££ is involved!

It's someone attending a football, it shouldn't be this hard.

Thankfully I'm relatively local, work 9 to 5 as they say, and generally in good health. In other words, it's extremely rare for me not to make a game I have a ticket for.

Must be a f*****g nightmare for those chinging out a fortune for tickets but are unable to make games because of any of the reasons I mentioned above.

By the law of averages, there will be people that wake up tmrw with a ticket that will not be able to attend because of illness, emergency or whatever.
Not that easy to pass on your ticket at short notice these days.

 

[mexico1970]

A supply of big biscuits :-)

Who remembers them, "Dundee biscuits"

A big FO chocolate biscuit.

You don't see them anymore do you?

Yup remember them well, massive things and you only needed one to fill you up.

 

[TShed]

If a person is liable for any trouble caused by someone they pass their ticket to.

Then the Club should be liable for trouble caused by someone who has bought a resale ticket.

A lot of resale tickets are bought by oppo fans or neutrals, people that get into disagreements with City fans.

Exactly my point

 

[Blue Maverick]

Well in 317 today two rags got turfed out by fans, one of them took his coat off just before kick off and had a rag top on, people round him went ballistic, so how’s that happened, they’ve bought these off a third party website obviously, so we get pissed about with our season tickets they’ll bring in facial recognition but tourists can waltz into a fucking derby without question, nice one City nice one.