Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university

For people that don't know him, he basically had a megaphone and a sound/video production team that went around "Campuses" trolling students. Regardless of what he stood for...that was his style. He came to fame on Youtube or whatever through actively shaming uneducated students through edited clips.
 


"the kid who shot charlie was only 22. this is insane because 22 means he basically grew up marinating in the broadband soup. he had no buffer period of pre internet adulthood, no separation between formative years & the always on firehose. his psyche was forged entirely in the age of memes, polarization, constant feeds, & parasocial rage cycles.we are now seeing individuals in society like this reaching adulthood & have access to very sophisticated weapons. this will be a serious challenge for security in america going forward."


If he really is the killer..

He lived his life online with no sense of reality, planned to murder someone, then actually murders someone, now becomes permanently offline because prison doesn't allow internet access.

Will becoming a living proof of an American pronoun:

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
 
I’m a case in point, over ten years ago I was considered a raving right wing nut job on here. My views haven’t really changed but the Overton Window on Bluemoon has moved so far that I’m now classed as a loony lefty by blue moon’s right wing fringe.
I remember arguing with you over 10 years ago on Politics. Now I’m back you post very reasonable stuff and are a voice of factual reason
 
It appears to me that as we now have almost a generation who have spent a large part of their lives in front of a computer screen and have lost the ability by doing so to socially interact. The narrow world in which they live draws them down rabbit holes from which they cannot escape and blunts any form of critical judgement. Their brain just becomes programmed to receive one message. Hence the intolerance of any other viewpoint. Whenever they mix their social inadequacies merely ensures they gravitate to their own tribe where they will not be challenged and their views reinforced as being a norm. It will only get worse
 
Spot on Melton.

Would just like to add, I've only seen about 30 seconds of his "debating", and it's made me realise that "debate" is now just basically trying to win an argument. Never two people trying to see each others point of view. When did we become like this? Fits with him having no empathy though I suppose...

It’s disingenuously trying to look intellectual when it’s clearly anything but.

Put down the phones or the laptops and go and read some history books (I include myself in that given the irony of me being on here typing it!)
 
It appears to me that as we now have almost a generation who have spent a large part of their lives in front of a computer screen and have lost the ability by doing so to socially interact. The narrow world in which they live draws them down rabbit holes from which they cannot escape and blunts any form of critical judgement. Their brain just becomes programmed to receive one message. Hence the intolerance of any other viewpoint. Whenever they mix their social inadequacies merely ensures they gravitate to their own tribe where they will not be challenged and their views reinforced as being a norm. It will only get worse
It's 100% not limited to young people. You only have to see the discourse in this forum to know that some people (including FOCs) are generally irritable and intolerant of opposing views. (Guilty myself on rare occasions)

If this thread existed in the past it would have laid blame at the door of rock n roll, hallucinogens, punk, violent movies, satanic panic, computer games and now the Internet...
 
Ok, call me Far-Right. I'm really not arsed what you call me.

Like I said, I have no allegiance to either side. I just think that anybody who kills a young man, and a Father of 2, is a psychopath.

If the roles were revered and it was Leftie Politician who had been killed, I'd be saying the same thing.
Your 'Lefty' theory didn't age well. Don't join the police.
 
Of all the nonsense spouted after the murder of Kirk, Don Trump Junior takes the looney of the year prize. He said:
“ I don’t know of a single school shooting in the last few years that was not carried out by trans people. They are fed hormones from the age of three to make them believe [that ideology]”
Jeez.
 
Of all the nonsense spouted after the murder of Kirk, Don Trump Junior takes the looney of the year prize. He said:
“ I don’t know of a single school shooting in the last few years that was not carried out by trans people. They are fed hormones from the age of three to make them believe [that ideology]”
Jeez.
WTF !! ??
 
I’m a case in point, over ten years ago I was considered a raving right wing nut job on here. My views haven’t really changed but the Overton Window on Bluemoon has moved so far that I’m now classed as a loony lefty by blue moon’s right wing fringe.

I have no idea what I am considered politically anymore!

We seem to be in the absolute depths of the “had enough of experts” period that I don’t think it’s even about politics anymore really, we’ve regressed that much.

It is such an odd period right now.
 
Media have got hold of the shooters Granny and we know they love to talk. Apparently he’s a good boy, bit shy and brought up right, Conservative Republican family, love their guns and Trump. She can’t understand what has happened or why.

Shooter didn’t like Kirk as he wasn’t conservative enough. This is a different source.

The markings are Gamer related and from the far right sphere. No idea if this is true as I have no idea about the Gamer world.
 
Media have got hold of the shooters Granny and we know they love to talk. Apparently he’s a good boy, bit shy and brought up right, Conservative Republican family, love their guns and Trump. She can’t understand what has happened or why.

Shooter didn’t like Kirk as he wasn’t conservative enough. This is a different source.

The markings are Gamer related and from the far right sphere. No idea if this is true as I have no idea about the Gamer world.

The markers on the bullet are from the gamer world, made that point earlier in the thread and in the games, neither of them are used politically as some are making out. Bella ciao in particular.

It’s a weird one though, think we’ve got to wait and find out.
 
Of all the nonsense spouted after the murder of Kirk, Don Trump Junior takes the looney of the year prize. He said:
“ I don’t know of a single school shooting in the last few years that was not carried out by trans people. They are fed hormones from the age of three to make them believe [that ideology]”
Jeez.
Insane isn’t it? Stop the world I want to get off! Surely it’s time for the aliens to land!
 
Media have got hold of the shooters Granny and we know they love to talk. Apparently he’s a good boy, bit shy and brought up right, Conservative Republican family, love their guns and Trump. She can’t understand what has happened or why.

Shooter didn’t like Kirk as he wasn’t conservative enough. This is a different source.

The markings are Gamer related and from the far right sphere. No idea if this is true as I have no idea about the Gamer world.
Yes, it’s not been bottomed yet. A lot more to come out, I think. One suggestion I saw was that the family was Mormons and hated Jews, the shooter presumably hated Kirk’s support of Israel. Probably nonsense.
 
I have no idea what I am considered politically anymore!

We seem to be in the absolute depths of the “had enough of experts” period that I don’t think it’s even about politics anymore really, we’ve regressed that much.

It is such an odd period right now.

Tell me about it. Back in the day I voted for Thatcher, now I’m somewhere to the left of Che Guevara. I’m like what the fuck just happened? How did I get here?

I’m too fucking old to be a revolutionary.
 
Yes, it’s still not been bottomed yet. More to come out, I think. One suggestion I saw was that the family was Mormons and hated Jews, the shooter presumably hated Kirk’s support of Israel. Probably nonsense.

Yeah, there’s still a lot of disinformation out there, although I’m taking Granny at her word :)
 

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