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I said myself on the other thread earlier that not everyone who attended it will be a racist, or a **** for that matter and a lot of people have been duped into attending. However, those who organised it and spoke at it are all cunts and arguably racist cunts at that. If your mate is pissed off with this government he's perfectly entitled to that opinion, but he should be doing his research before attending a march like that because whatever issues we have with the way the country is being run, Yaxley-Lennon, Fox, Hopkins, Musk, et al are not the answer and never fucking will be. They're nothing but hate preachers.
Maybe so. I dont have a dog in the fight. People will have their reasons.
But the other bell casting his wide opinionated net that every one on the march is either thick or a **** just makes him look … well … like a thick ****
 
Anyone going to a rally where the speakers are Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, Laurence Fox and Elon Musk is a fucking moron. Chasing their votes is pointless because they would never vote for any party to the left of Farage in a million years. Most of them probably couldn’t read the names of the candidates on a ballot paper.
Does it ever occur to you that you might have read the situation totally wrong? Does it ever occur to you that your way of thinking might have been influenced by indoctrination and bias from various factions in your lifetime? Just asking, because you seem absolutely certain that your way is right, which doesn’t seem right to me.
 
There'll be loads of people on these marches that aren't far right. But if a large part of the crowd you're marching with start singing Tommy's name, then you are on a far right march.
 
Does it ever occur to you that you might have read the situation totally wrong? Does it ever occur to you that your way of thinking might have been influenced by indoctrination and bias from various factions in your lifetime? Just asking, because you seem absolutely certain that your way is right, which doesn’t seem right to me.
So are you saying Robinson, Farage, Musk, Hopkins, and Fox are the right way?
 
Are you not going to answer the question? I’ve answered yours.
Id go found in circles with.
I believe people had many reasons for going. He got no where near the stage and wasmt overly bothered about seeing or listening to the speakers. He did see and speak to the maoris in a square nearby. Had a couple of pints and a curry, got train back sunday and straight to the match.

As ive already said…. He felt it was a way to show the countries a shit show at the mo.
 
Does it ever occur to you that you might have read the situation totally wrong? Does it ever occur to you that your way of thinking might have been influenced by indoctrination and bias from various factions in your lifetime? Just asking, because you seem absolutely certain that your way is right, which doesn’t seem right to me.
He thinks hes right, but worse he thinks hes morally right and can look down on people and call them thick cunts who cant read and write.
 
He thinks hes right, but worse he thinks hes morally right and can look down on people and call them thick cunts who cant read and write.
Obviously I think I’m right or I wouldn’t express that opinion. It’s not fucking rocket science.
You obviously think you’re right as well but I think you’re just making excuses for people supporting absolute cunts.
 
No it means youre a sneery , judgemental obnoxious persom who has taken some weird high ground and not only think youre always right , you think you are morally right.

I vote for whomever seems right at the time so im pretty apolitical.
I also know someone very well who went on saturday. A 76 year old retired fella who lives for his dog and man city. Hes not a ****, hes a belting bloke. If you met him you wouldnt think hes a ****. Hes had hard times, worries and problems and he went last minute on saturday because he felt the need to send a message that all isnt ok. The final straw was starmer knowingly giving mandelson a high profile job despite him knowing he was best pals with a paedo.

He said going on the march felt the right thing to do.
He saw no trouble, he said it was largely like being at the game, mostly blokes but lots of families too.

Fair play, the mans not a **** whatever judgy pricks like you think

If its cunts youre after, im sure your house is full of mirrors

He went on a Tommy Robinson march because Starmer gave Mandelson a job?

I mean, fair enough if so, but god knows how anyone counters that.
 
Does it ever occur to you that you might have read the situation totally wrong? Does it ever occur to you that your way of thinking might have been influenced by indoctrination and bias from various factions in your lifetime? Just asking, because you seem absolutely certain that your way is right, which doesn’t seem right to me.
My opinion is based on what I’ve read and seen of the opinions and actions of the organiser and his chosen speakers. Of course I could be wrong and they could all be lovely people who want the best for all all of us. Not seen any evidence of that though.
 
He went on a Tommy Robinson march because Starmer gave Mandelson a job?

I mean, fair enough if so, but god knows how anyone counters that.
You dont have to counter it. Point is that was the last straw. Hes fed up. He felt starmer showed a huge lack of judgement giving a paedo pal a huge job.
He wants him out.

Thats it really.
 
You dont have to counter it. Point is that was the last straw. Hes fed up. He felt starmer showed a huge lack of judgement giving a paedo pal a huge job.
He wants him out.

Thats it really.

Right but in doing so, he led his support to a Robinson march to make that happen, of course that has to be countered.

If people are willing to do that just to get Starmer out, not even that they have strong opinions on immigration and the state of the country, then that’s worrying for everyone.
 
Obviously I think I’m right or I wouldn’t express that opinion. It’s not fucking rocket science.
You obviously think you’re right as well but I think you’re just making excuses for people supporting absolute cunts.

Reopened. Robinsons opinion hasn’t really changed at all since he was in the EDL.
He has an opinion, which right or wrong morally deserves to be heard on an equal platform to other opinions. Debate cannot be shut down.
If you are happy that your rights as a citizen of this country are not being systematically eroded, then good, I’m happy for you. A great many citizens however are not feeling that way and they are feeling hogtied by various powers to do anything about it apart from take to the streets. Surely you understand that and don’t have to resort to calling them illiterate c..ts.
 
My opinion is based on what I’ve read and seen of the opinions and actions of the organiser and his chosen speakers. Of course I could be wrong and they could all be lovely people who want the best for all all of us. Not seen any evidence of that though.
Ok
 



Anyone still buying this rubbish?

@west didsblue is still buying it. But then again he’d believe pretty much anything.

Starmer’s admitted that he lied about not knowing about the new Epstein messages, but he’s still lying about not knowing the contents of them before he went to PMQs and gave a stout defence of Mandelson.

It’s all so convincing, isn’t it?

As a PM you are told that very significant new emails have been unearthed between Epstein and Mandelson that are about to be published by a major UK newspaper, and your first instinct is not to ask what they contain, but to ask if someone could send Mandelson an email to see if he wants to admit to their authenticity. And when Mandelson doesn’t reply, you don’t think about possibly giving the bloke a call, you just go to the Commons and defend Mandelson, even though you don’t know what’s in the emails.

Sounds perfectly reasonable and totally believable.
 
He has an opinion, which right or wrong morally deserves to be heard on an equal platform to other opinions. Debate cannot be shut down.
If you are happy that your rights as a citizen of this country are not being systematically eroded, then good, I’m happy for you. A great many citizens however are not feeling that way and they are feeling hogtied by various powers to do anything about it apart from take to the streets. Surely you understand that and don’t have to resort to calling them illiterate c..ts.

Not sure you meant to tag me into that, all I said was Robinsons argument is the exact same as it was when he was in the EDL.

I’m not sure what we’re debating now though, is it that rights as a citizen have been eroded? As I didn’t know even Robinson was making that point. Which rights?
 

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