Arsenal (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

coolcity said:
I've never been one to criticise us on here and regularly call out those who have, but I'll say it again, it's not our game. It's not how we have won 6 titles under Pep, or the treble, the Cl and everything else.

It might help you avoid relegation picking up the odd point here and there but teams who park the bus rarely manage to hang on, we've seen it time and time again and as I said elsewhere we were slating Arsenal for their lack of ambition after they tried and failed to do the exact same thing.

We have the world's best striker ever on the park, he's already scored then we decide to hang on for an hour and a half? Give me a break. They were always going to score, it was a case of when and how many. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with a point at Arsenal but not like that.
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Some times the opposition is just better than us. Your first point about its not how we have won titles is correct, but them other City sides were a lot better than this one, and this current Arsenal side are also better than a lot of the Arsenal sides City have played in the past too. We all want to play free flowing attacking football, but this team is in transition and is finding its feet. A point away at any top side is always good a point. To say you would have rather us attacked and got beat trying Iike you said in your original post, too me is frankly ridiculous.
 
Silvatoure21 said:
Yeah. I have seen anything from Liverpool that makes me say “wow”. Squeaking out last second wins and blowing leads in every game is not what I would call dominant
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Exactly, that's why we have every chance but not playing like that. But as somebody else pointed out, Arsenal are at their level whereas we'll improve especially as players get used to playing with each other and we get a few more back from the treatment room.
 
Very disappointed not to win. We should have gone two up and a few consecutive poor decisions, including front the ref, cost us two points.

Don’t agree the subs were the problem: fresh legs were needed.

Roy Keane on the TV being critical of Pep mentioning the schedule, what a dick (oh but you knew that already). Two days more rest and prep is significant at any time to a game like today’s.

A decent week but we are miles behind Dippers already on points; not that we are favourites for the league. We still need more quality and pace but lost of fastest player at HT to injury thanks to that thug Gabriel.

We need our best players fit to have an outside chance of the league. We also need Rodri back to full fitness, which will take time.

I do not like playing like we did today but it is something we need to be able to do and were very good defensively today.
 
BluestBlue said:
I am proud of the lads to work so hard and play a system that’s never been in their dna.

This could be helpful come cup games.
It shows Pep can be more pragmatic without the ball.

I was never confident in a win but we were so close. I think the last 2subs weren’t entirely correct.

The biggest errors in my opinion:
1. Haaland not passing to Foden for the tap in. 0-2 and we’ve destroyed all hope.
2. Savio and Tijanji no going to the corner in the 92 min.
3. Donnarumma coming off his line for no reason.

Pep taking out Khusonov makes no sense to me. If he’s still there his pace take cares of every issue. Especially when Dias won 1/5 aerial duels.
Nunes sub makes no sense since we didn’t attack. He was great but you asked him to do everything Khusonov can do to a better degree.
Taking off Foden was understandable but Haaland was the sub that was incorrect. He was our biggest outlet and the reason we won 2nd balls. He also was our reason why they never scored from corners. Bernardo should’ve been taken out instead.

We have to win 5-6 games in a row.

The team and tactics were impressive. They almost worked !

Doku and OR my standout players.


Tijanji should skip the next game. He’s really struggled since his first game. Great assist but my goodness the Serie A truly showed me how slow that league is. I still have faith in him

I think Nico G should come back to the side idc if Rodri is the one that plays higher up i just think Tijanji needs time off. Bobb at RW is needed.

Lessons learned ?
We can defend and be very disciplined.
Never take off Khusonov
Every game is a final to stay in touching distance of Pool.
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It was pretty obvious Khusanov was subbed because of injury.
 
Turner92 said:
How is anyone happy with that performance we got battered by arsenal the whole game and played like a Mourinho side. It showed just how far off challenging this current side is
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Baterred 1 -1 away from home after a tough week with lots of injuries and played and won a difficult game on Thursday. Yep I’m happy with that.
 
Blue tiger said:
Some times the opposition is just better than us. Your first point about its not how we have won titles is correct, but them other City sides were a lot better than this one, and this current Arsenal side are also better than a lot of the Arsenal sides City have played in the past too. We all want to play free flowing attacking football, but this team is in transition and is finding its feet. A point away at any top side is always good a point. To say you would have rather us attacked and got beat trying Iike you said in your original post, too me is frankly ridiculous.
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We got thrashed last year there trying to play football. If Haaland is less selfish we win that game and walk away with 3 points
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
I thought Pep got the tactics spot on to be honest. Arsenal away, on the back of a tricky Derby game then Napoli asked a lot of our players especially when many of them won't have had a good pre-season with that Club Cup etc on and international breaks.

If we'd gone 0-2 up then I think everyone would be saying we were amazing etc. I'd have taken a point before the game and we were unlucky really to miss out. They didn't really have many good chances and the one they did was finished really well.

We've played so many teams where they sit with 10 behind the ball it was nice to dish it out. I thought Pep got 2 subs wrong though - Haaland and Doku. If you want to sit back and play it long then you need a target man and without him, the ball just came back at us and we lost his height on corners and lacked any threat. I thought Doku looked very dangerous and is the kind of player who can create something out of nothing. Savinho looks worse to me every time I see him now. He just offered nothing when he came on instead of running around and trying to put some pressure on them. All that said, Pep knows which players are tired etc!

Overall, I think that tactic might be used against the top teams and especially in the CL against teams where a Haaland will make the difference.

Donnarumma is EXACTLY the keeper we need. He's an absolute beast and just dominates his area. Arsenal look very dangerous on set pieces and Rice is superb at delivery. But Donna just punched everything away and never looked threatened at all.

Overall, the last 3 games have seen us conceed 1 goal against United, Napoli and Arsenal. I see that as an improvement and the team is starting to look more resilient which all title winning teams are. I'm not sure we will win the title but if we tighten up at the back and keep Haaland fit we'll have a good chance.
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Umm...United are crap by anybody's measure at the moment - Grimsby beat them a couple of weeks ago FFS - and Napoli were down to 10 early on, and they're hardly PSG or Real Madrid.

I'd have taken a point before the game too but not like that After we scored they were there for the taking, they had to come out which would have left gaps at the back.

I agree about the point regarding the subs. I can understand protecting Haaland, it's a long season buy Doku was the only one relieving any pressure towards the end of the match and taking him off for the last few minutes is hardly going to make any difference with regard to resting him. Savinho can't play that way and but for that change I think we might have held on.

Any point at Arsenal is a good point but I think we're better than that.
 

BlueMonkey79 said:
Calm down lar.

We got dicked here last year.

Arsenal by far the better team today. They will be more pissed off at the draw than us,!!!
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Really annoying we can’t even grind out a shit performance.

We offered nothing 2nd half to park the bus and still conceded to one ball over the top.

In isolation it’s bad. In the context of how poor we’ve been this season, it’s even worse.
 
Turner92 said:
How is anyone happy with that performance we got battered by arsenal the whole game and played like a Mourinho side. It showed just how far off challenging this current side is
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Because we had 3 games in 8 days. A derby, champions league against the Italian Champions and hardly any rest and prep time away at a title challenger. And we came out of it undefeated. Even in our pomp I'd have taken that all day.
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
Bollocks, that was almost a defensive masterclass. 5 seoconds of lacked concentration cost us. Otherwise brilliant.
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I agree, we were good today. Generally though we struggle to defend. My point, despite us being decent defensively is that Arsenal were a bit crap..
 
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