Well said, Gaylord. We are massively in the shit as a nation and are going to have to pay more tax to try and sort it out, as a civilised society should do.
Am I prepared to pay more tax to try and sort it? Absolutely. Honestly more than happy to.
Talking with the wife today about how meals at our local pub has risen by around 25% in the last 18 months, we used to go about two or three times a month now we are lucky if it’s one, whether they need to raise those prices that much I don’t know. A holiday for 3 of us is in school holidays is a minimum of £3k for anything semi decent. If as some say we put 5p on income tax well lots of stuff will stop and the pub sector would collapse I reckon. I’ll pay 2p extra as long as all those bonuses for CEOs etc of failed sectors like water etc stop until they are brought up to spec. Get rid of the daft PFI system in the NHS and other public sectors where companies charge £5 for a tongue depressor when it should be 5p. Stop wasting money in the MOD on shit that is never actually used ( saw that 25 years ago and it still happens)hold accountable management in the public sector on blowing budgets on crap that never works (saw loads in the fire service). There lots of money wasted, give MPs a proper salary but they aren’t allowed secondary employment until they leave office to stop corruption.People with a few quid might have to eat out a bit less and cut back on the foreign holidays. Doesn’t have to be catastrophic for the economy. Ot the end of the world for them.
And it simply needs to happen.
The immigration issue needs to be neutralised as best as possible. Think the system needs knocking down and rebuilding, and if that means a small loss of liberty for people trying to get in, in order to make it far more efficient, then that has to be a fair price for potentially substantially more social cohesion imo.Whilst I agree with the theory, I think in practice it would just whip an already angry country into a frenzy. The hatred of immigrants would intensify for certain.
I’m not sure what the answers are.
Maybe so but I don't think people would flinch at the prospect of clear intent to economic recovery.Whilst I agree with the theory, I think in practice it would just whip an already angry country into a frenzy. The hatred of immigrants would intensify for certain.
I’m not sure what the answers are.
The immigration issue needs to be neutralised as best as possible. Think the system needs knocking down and rebuilding, and if that means a small loss of liberty for people trying to get in, in order to make it far more efficient, then that has to be a fair price for potentially substantially more social cohesion imo.
This situation needs to be managed carefully. We can’t completely ignore the concerns of so many people.
Maybe so but I don't think people would flinch at the prospect of clear intent to economic recovery.
Having said that they'll also have to seriously address the immigration expenditure.
Otherwise we'll they'll still be robbing Peter... with absolutely no economic benefit to show for any rises.
And how do you think people not swallowing those tax rises will manifest itself? Genuine question.I can’t see people swallowing big tax rises without radical changes to a lot of things.
They often have done that's for sure. But now it's down to the sitting government to attempt to gain a grip on it.I think one of the problems is that governments tend to fluff economic recovery by wasting money. Local councils too.
And how do you think people not swallowing those tax rises will manifest itself? Genuine question.
A common argument and, whilst certainly true in some areas, it suggests, as is often the case, that the private sector is so much better. Frankly, it isn’t, it’s just that know nothing politicians are, mostly, absolutely fucking useless at anything…I think one of the problems is that governments tend to fluff economic recovery by wasting money. Local councils too.
A common argument and, whilst certainly true in some areas, it suggests, as is often the case, that the private sector is so much better. Frankly, it isn’t, it’s just that no nothing politicians are, mostly, absolutely fucking useless at anything…
They should bite the bullet and whack 5% on income tax across the board and restore the previous NI threshold.
We all know we need to pay more to sort this shit out. The longer we leave it the worse it's going to get.
They should be straight about it. It needs to be done. Manifesto pledges or not .
Yes, I wonder why people think reform are the answer as they would be the final nail
See the Labour Party have been handed another crock of shite to sort out this morning
The Nuclear Veterans association ..... troops who were used as guinea pigs during nuclear bomb testing.
What exactly have the Tories been doing for the last 15 years?
They’ve been doing two a year for years mate.Since when was the budget held in November? I swear it used to be in March!
I’m sure the uncertainty of that isn’t helping people make decisions re Christmas n what not.
I know it’s gotta be held sometime but I just don’t see what was wrong with having it in March. Unless I’m imagining it was held in March previously!!
Recent times, the main time for the Budget was in the Autumn, October/November time, followed by a spring statement. I think it got a bit murky under Johnson who seemed to use the spring statement as a second budget, which Reeves reversed and returned to a single budget in Autumn.Since when was the budget held in November? I swear it used to be in March!
I’m sure the uncertainty of that isn’t helping people make decisions re Christmas n what not.
I know it’s gotta be held sometime but I just don’t see what was wrong with having it in March. Unless I’m imagining it was held in March previously!!
Or facts!Im not going round in circles while you give me examples of well to do pensioners. The state pension only is not a lot of money to live on. That is my view so anyone going on about the triple lock can do one until the state pension is more in line with other decent paying countries.
That is where I stand and where I will stay, if anyone wants to come up with ideas of how to take a bit more off the wealthy then fair enough.
@Blue Maverick rightly states defining what a well to do pensioner is ain't easy. For some reason a few posters seem to have a downer on the temerity of old folk to not be living off bread and water and daring not to pop their clogs for our benefit. :-)