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bert38 said:
and when they do privatise it they'll simply blame 'foreigners' even more and the fools will nod along and get even angrier.
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See Americans who voted for Trump hoping he'd abolish the American Care Act/Obamacare and are now angry at foreigners and democrats because Trump is getting rid of the ACA and their monthly insurance premiums are about to quadruple.
 
NPBlue said:
You will regret voting for them after they gain power, as much as the rest of us will

You aren't paying attention to what they are about. A Party formed by millionaires for the benefit of millionires, backed up with 97% of their funding coming from millionaires. Their chief donor is an advocate of free market policies, with zero constraints like employment, consumer and environmental legislation currently impeding their hunger for wealth.

Don't kid yourself they have your best interests at heart. They dont care about anyone or anything other than themselves, and they are seriously taking the piss out of you. You just haven't noticed it.

They are laughing thier heads off about how easily they have managed to gain so much support from ordinary people, and are ecstatic about just how easy it has been to dupe so many into supporting them with their trojan horse of migrants being the root cause of their struggles. Human rights? Nah, we dont need them because we can't treat foreigners like shit can we? Well, no, we can't, but it's not migrants thay are targeting. It's you and me.

They can't slash the welfare bill by £240B a year unless it's you and me they have in their sights.

You need some help with chronic mental health problems? Sorry buddy, you're just having a bad day. Get over it and get back to work.

Reform : I don't want to pay tax to support your malingering nonesense.

An American style heathcare system with insurance, and a basic NHS for those that can't afford it.That sounds great, until you dig a little deeper and understand there would be no restorative plastic surgery for burns victims, or prosthetic limb provision for amputees.

Reform : Why should I pay tax for that. You can hop to the shops if you've lost a leg. There's nowt wrong with your good one.

When did people with money advocate and promote progressive social legislation like the NHS, pensions, food standards, employment protections, and so on? Well, they never have, and reform MP's have shown their true colours in this parliament by voting against the rent reform and employment protection bills. There isn't much support for average folks struggling to get by on that score from the so called party of the people, is there?

I'm part of the first generation in this nations history to live their entire lives with the benefits of the welfare state, which I'm sure you have as well, but make no mistake, if reform get in, we will be the only generation in this contries history to have enjoyed the benefits it has given us.

Support reform and vote for them if you want to, but be under no illusion you will be nothing but a turkey voting effectively for Christmas, and they will be in convulsions of laughter for you supporting it.
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Zzz....
 
M18CTID said:
If you think Reform are going to sort out the issue of NHS dentists not taking patients on then I've got a bridge to sell you. More than likely they'll make it worse. Oh, and don't be surprised if they have you paying for your GP appointments too.

The system may well need shaking up but Reform will only shake it up in a bad way.
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hampshireblue said:
Why is the tax on you higher over the last 12 months. Nothing has changed to the average worker. Rates and thresholds are exactly the same as they previously were.

Yes, have a go at the government, but it sounds as if your biggest gripe is with your fellow (work shy) citizens. don't forget the biggest welfare is for the state pension, followed by IN WORK benefits. Out of work benefits only makes up about 4% of the total bill and funnily enough 4% is about the proportion of immigrants "who shouldn't be here".
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Pedestrian said:
Hahahaha. They want to privatise the nhs you numpty. One thing that all this reform bollocks has shown me is that a large portion of the population are fucking idiots.
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Interesting that you all assume I’m happy with the NHS in its current form. The reality is, it burns cash by wasteful management decisions whilst anyone and everyone can take from it, while many who pay considerable tax can’t get an NHS dental appointment.

The thing needs gutting.
 
Blue Smarties said:
Interesting that you all assume I’m happy with the NHS in its current form. The reality is, it burns cash by wasteful management decisions whilst anyone and everyone can take from it, while many who pay considerable tax can’t get an NHS dental appointment.

The thing needs gutting.
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You've ticked a lot of boxes there: all right wing tropes.
-too many managers
-waste
-foreigners queue jumping/getting it for free

Do you have any evidence for this?

Reality is its a huge organisation thats been greatly underfunded.
 
bert38 said:
You've ticked a lot of boxes there: all right wing tropes.
-too many managers
-waste
-foreigners queue jumping/getting it for free

Do you have any evidence for this?

Reality is its a huge organisation thats been greatly underfunded.
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I see. So you want to give them more money to funnel through? To the benefit of whom? The work shy who don’t pay into it?
 
Blue Smarties said:
I see. So you want to give them more money to funnel through? To the benefit of whom? The work shy who don’t pay into it?
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ah I forgot the other right wing trope-the 'lazy' who shouldn't get welfare support-thanks for clearing that up.
 
Blue Smarties said:
Interesting that you all assume I’m happy with the NHS in its current form. The reality is, it burns cash by wasteful management decisions whilst anyone and everyone can take from it, while many who pay considerable tax can’t get an NHS dental appointment.

The thing needs gutting.
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I don't assume that at all. The point I was making was that if you think Reform are going to fix any issues with the NHS then you're sadly mistaken, and whatever they do end up doing will likely cost you a shit load more money whilst not improving matters.
 
Blue Smarties said:
Interesting that you all assume I’m happy with the NHS in its current form. The reality is, it burns cash by wasteful management decisions whilst anyone and everyone can take from it, while many who pay considerable tax can’t get an NHS dental appointment.

The thing needs gutting.
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Interesting you quoted my post but addressed none of the points I made.
 
This forum is toxic as fuck towards posters who don't share the same views as you lot.
You're like a pack of hyenas waiting for the next victim so you can pounce and do a pile on.
Trying to tell people what life is going to be like a full 3 years before it's a possibility.
Strange behaviour.
It's a pity really because I enjoy reading the same posters on other topics.
 
moggymoz said:
Probably about 100% of it.
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In what ways? If he’s wholly wrong, what are Reform about and what are they going to do to the contrary of what he said?

You’ve got to do a bit better than ‘Zzz’.

Why would voting for Reform benefit me, my area and my country?

Convince me…
 
city5189 said:
This forum is toxic as fuck towards posters who don't share the same views as you lot.
You're like a pack of hyenas waiting for the next victim so you can pounce and do a pile on.
Trying to tell people what life is going to be like a full 3 years before it's a possibility.
Strange behaviour.
It's a pity really because I enjoy reading the same posters on other topics.
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Aren't the media telling us exactly that with their endless platforming?

Most people recognise Farage and co are a serious threat to this country-and it is only right that it is called out.
 
bert38 said:
Aren't the media telling us exactly that with their endless platforming?

Most people recognise Farage and co are a serious threat to this country-and it is only right that it is called out.
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If most people recognise Farage and Co are a serious threat, how come Reform will win by a Landslide?
 
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