Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Manc Born & Bred said:
Are you going to keep a list of all Hamas' violations. They broke it first by crossing the yellow line, then they haven't returned all the dead bodies and even this morning they have returned a dead Arab instead of a dead hostage. Oh and they are refusing to give up their weapons and they have murdered around 50+ of their own. Lots of videos of the executions going around or does this not all fit your agenda.
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If took almost 20 years to identify nearly everyone after 9/11, now they may have an idea where the bodies are, retrieving and identifying them are completely different matter, they gave them an arab body, now imagine after two years and been pulled from completely bombed buildings they’ve been rotting in
 
BlueAnorak said:
I see Hamas are pulling Palestinians out on to the street and killing them. Yet the great and the good of the left just ignore it. I wonder why?
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How's that Russian thread going you occupy daily telling everyone about Putins crimes. You know stealing Ukrainian land and occupying, mass murdering and slaughtering folk?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Surely the salient point about the bodies of the hostages is that Hamas should have established whether they knew where they were before consenting to return them as part of the agreement.

Knowing that you are capable of complying is surely a fundamental tenet of any formal agreement.
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I mean they might have known where some were? Israel were dropping bombs on civilian buildings whilst they were negotiating!
 

gordondaviesmoustache said:
Surely the salient point about the bodies of the hostages is that Hamas should have established whether they knew where they were before consenting to return them as part of the agreement.

Knowing that you are capable of complying is surely a fundamental tenet of any formal agreement.
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It was acknowledged in the negotiations and widely reported that it would take longer than 72 hours. Points 5d + e
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BlueAnorak said:
I see Hamas are pulling Palestinians out on to the street and killing them. Yet the great and the good of the left just ignore it. I wonder why?
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Probably the same reason people from the right won't look at the behaviour of Netanyahu: political polarisation before humanity. Once you look at things from a pure humanitarian level, your mindset changes completely.
 
SiMCFC said:
When they can't even find thousands of Palestinians, its a little tricky isn't it? Almost like they have been setup to fail...



True, but we have to rememebr that Hamas are also murdering Palestinians unfortunately, anyone they decided has collaborated with Israel/IDF etc no trial, just lined up and shot in the street, pretty worrying.
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Our media has plastered those executions everywhere. What theyve failed to mention is that the gangs hamas executed are paid and armed by israel to murder Palestinians and have links to isis. Theyve been killing Palestinians the past few days, hence the executions. It was them that murdered the journalist the other day after torturing him. It was them who were stealing the aid previously, that israel and our media told us was hamas but as usual later it turned out there was no evidence of that (which was in the new york times IIRC)

As I keep saying, israel - every dirty trick in the book
 
Manc Born & Bred said:
Are you going to keep a list of all Hamas' violations. They broke it first by crossing the yellow line, then they haven't returned all the dead bodies and even this morning they have returned a dead Arab instead of a dead hostage. Oh and they are refusing to give up their weapons and they have murdered around 50+ of their own. Lots of videos of the executions going around or does this not all fit your agenda.
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Yea go for it fella. Last time hamas violated the ceasefire a handful of times, mostly if not all technicalities, whereas israel turned their attentions to the west bank mostly and carried on murdering people, violating the ceasefire hundreds of times before slaughtering hundreds of women and children to break the ceasefire completely

As I say fella, go for it
 
BlueAnorak said:
I see Hamas are pulling Palestinians out on to the street and killing them. Yet the great and the good of the left just ignore it. I wonder why?
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I’m afraid that neither Hamas or their supporters are interested in peace. All they want is the destruction of Israel. And I’m afraid many in Israel and their supporters are not interested in peace, all they want is the destruction of Gaza.
When the real powers in the world align behind either one of these aims, the fan will be covered in the brown stuff.
 


There is still no peace in the North of Gaza the IDF are still bombing and setting fire to homes.
Israel was well aware as part of the peace plan there would be difficulties in returning and locating some of the dead bodies.
 
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BlueTG said:
A pointless warrant for the ****’s arrest if nobody actually acts on it. Farce.
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The US aren't signatories of the ICC, which is why he has yet to be arrested. Unless he's visited a signatory of the ICC since the warrant, but I don't believe he has.
 
Blue Maverick said:
If took almost 20 years to identify nearly everyone after 9/11, now they may have an idea where the bodies are, retrieving and identifying them are completely different matter, they gave them an arab body, now imagine after two years and been pulled from completely bombed buildings they’ve been rotting in
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Not really sure what you are trying to say. Comparing a body that has been totally turned into ashes versus a person that has been kidnapped and then murdered in captivity? Really. They signed up to returning all the bodies within a given timeframe, squealing now that they are not sure where they are is pathetic but hardly surprising from a murderous cult that so many on here support.
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
Yea go for it fella. Last time hamas violated the ceasefire a handful of times, mostly if not all technicalities, whereas israel turned their attentions to the west bank mostly and carried on murdering people, violating the ceasefire hundreds of times before slaughtering hundreds of women and children to break the ceasefire completely

As I say fella, go for it
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Go for what exactly. And ceasefires are either broken or not, technicalities don’t even enter the equation. The fact that you say that Israel supposedly violated a ceasefire hundreds of times before breaking it completely shows that you haven’t really got a great grasp of how a ceasefire works. Anyway crack on with your support for Hamas and your hatred of Jews.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Surely the salient point about the bodies of the hostages is that Hamas should have established whether they knew where they were before consenting to return them as part of the agreement.

Knowing that you are capable of complying is surely a fundamental tenet of any formal agreement.
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Did Hamas ever say how many bodies they had "in their possession" to return?
 
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Manc Born & Bred said:
Go for what exactly. And ceasefires are either broken or not, technicalities don’t even enter the equation. The fact that you say that Israel supposedly violated a ceasefire hundreds of times before breaking it completely shows that you haven’t really got a great grasp of how a ceasefire works. Anyway crack on with your support for Hamas and your hatred of Jews.
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What are the boundaries of Eretz Israel?

(Just so we know who you hate.)
 
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