How would you feel if Mancini went to Chelsea? | Now linked with United (p10) and Forest (p14)

mandubs said:
Story is from Martin Blackburn at The Sun so it's not a terrible source. But I cannot see it happening.
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The starting point for any article that talks of its subject talking to ‘friends’ surely should be that it’s completely made up. I fail to see what other position anyone could sensibly assume.
 
Wasn't Berrada part of the hierarchy who sacked Mancini for being difficult to handle and toxic in the changing room? I can't see this happening.
 
If he goes there because he has unfinished business with Ferguson. The aim would be to finally put that tw@t in the ground, although thinking about it that would be a positive for the rags
 
blueplan said:
The 6-1 Demolition of Fergie's team and especially at OT is enough to convince me that Mancini belongs to the pantheon of great football managers. Mancini exposed the red nose fraud for what he is a poor football tactician and a FA officials Bully.
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The 6-1 isn’t even in our top three old trafford performances since the takeover imo.

2014, 2016 and 2019 were better. 2023 and 2021 run it close too.

What happened in the last minute and during injury time warps that performance. The result was the most satisfying without a doubt but to hold that game up as the apotheosis of tactical perfection by Mancini is wrong imo.

In 2014 we controlled the game from the first minute and absolutely brutalised them. For me, that is our best ever performance at old trafford.
 
dickie davies said:
Forever grateful to Mancini for the FA Cup then the league, but my God, when you look at the squad we had at that time he had to win stuff
Pep would have been getting 100 points a season three years on the bounce with that lot
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Bollocks. I’m a big Pep fan but if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead, with six games to go, in a race with United he wouldn’t get within four points of them.

We’d have lost ‘that’ derby as well. He’d have spent the entire week leading up to it telling everyone how we don’t deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as them and the players would have picked up on it and entered the field as beaten men.

Pep is a better manager, for sure, but given what Mancini had to overcome, he was the best man in the world for this club, at that time.

Mancini biggest mistake was making this club and our fans believe we could win. He was never forgiven for that by a vociferous minority on here and never will be.

Put it this way, no Mancini -> no Pep.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The 6-1 isn’t even in our top three old trafford performances since the takeover imo.

2014, 2016 and 2019 were better. 2023 and 2021 run it close too.

What happened in the last minute and during injury time warps that performance. The result was the most satisfying without a doubt but to hold that game up as the apotheosis of tactical perfection by Mancini is wrong imo.

In 2014 we controlled the game from the first minutes and absolutely brutalised them. For me, that is our best ever performance at old trafford.
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My favourite was the one when Kev and Bernie took the piss by the corner flag for two and a half minutes as we roared ourselves hoarse up in the corner behind them. The humiliation we heaped on them that day was fucking glorious
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Bollocks. I’m a big Pep fan but if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead, with six games to go, in a race with United he wouldn’t get within four points of them.

We’d have lost ‘that’ derby as well. He’d have spent the entire week leading up to it telling everyone how we don’t deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as them and the players would have picked up on it and entered the field as beaten men.
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Not sure that’s completely correct mate. Obviously everyone remembers him giving it to Ferguson in that Derby in April 2012, but Mancini was generally quite measured and respectful talking about Ferguson and United, at least up to that point.

Plus, the stats don’t back up your argument as Mancini’s league derby win percentage was less than 50% and Guardiola’s is more than 50%.

Plus your first paragraph conspicuously ignores all those incredible winning streaks we’ve been on when closing a title down under Guardiola, including every one of the last 14 games in 2019. If you are chasing someone down, it simply isn’t possible to do more than win all your games, so I don’t get your logic.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Bollocks. I’m a big Pep fan but if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead, with six games to go, in a race with United he wouldn’t get within four points of them.

We’d have lost ‘that’ derby as well. He’d have spent the entire week leading up to it telling everyone how we don’t deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as them and the players would have picked up on it and entered the field as beaten men.

Pep is a better manager, for sure, but given what Mancini had to overcome, he was the best man in the world for this club, at that time.

Mancini biggest mistake was making this club and our fans believe we could win. He was never forgiven for that by a vociferous minority on here and never will be.

Put it this way, no Mancini -> no Pep.
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you said it yourself "if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead"
He wouldn't with that squad and look at Pep's run in records, the 98 point 2018/19 season being a prime example, when the pressure was on every game
 
Banano said:
Not a chance he takes that job. Mancini inherited Kompany, Tevez, Hart, Zabaleta & Barry, then added Aguero, Yaya & Silva. He ain't getting anything close to that quality over there
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I know he's a bit of a goon now but I'd argue Richards should be in that group he inherited. In the 11-12 season he was first choice ahead of zaba until he got injured 3 or so before the end. Richards was huge in the 10-11 and 11-12 seasons and doesn't get remembered as fondly because of his injuries.
 
Definitely tarnishes his reputation in my eyes were he to end up there.

I'd mainly just be disappointed because he wouldnt do anything there, he would almost certainly fall out massively with numerous people behind the scenes and some players and end up sacked. seems like a poor trade off to dampen his status here to me.
 
dickie davies said:
you said it yourself "if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead"
He wouldn't with that squad and look at Pep's run in records, the 98 point 2018/19 season being a prime example, when the pressure was on every game
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It staggers me how casually that run is overlooked from within parts of our own support.

I’ll happily argue with anyone that it is one of the greatest ever achievements in the history of team sport. The historical statistics bear this out. Wining every one if the last 14 games, when the pressure was on in every game, when our opponents were breathing down our necks (or marginally ahead) is a truly incredible sporting feat.

What a thing to experience.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Bollocks. I’m a big Pep fan but if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead, with six games to go, in a race with United he wouldn’t get within four points of them.

We’d have lost ‘that’ derby as well. He’d have spent the entire week leading up to it telling everyone how we don’t deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as them and the players would have picked up on it and entered the field as beaten men.

Pep is a better manager, for sure, but given what Mancini had to overcome, he was the best man in the world for this club, at that time.

Mancini biggest mistake was making this club and our fans believe we could win. He was never forgiven for that by a vociferous minority on here and never will be.

Put it this way, no Mancini -> no Pep
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Understand where you're coming from but in the run ins with Liverpool pep was quite aggressive with his "what if we win" response when the media went fishing with "what happens for the season if you lose".
 
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