How would you feel if Mancini went to Chelsea? | Now linked with United (p10) and Forest (p14)

gordondaviesmoustache said:
It staggers me how casually that run is overlooked from within parts of our own support.

I’ll happily argue with anyone that it is one of the greatest ever achievements in the history of team sport. The historical statistics bear this out. Wining every one if the last 14 games, when the pressure was on in every game, when our opponents were breathing down our necks (or marginally ahead) is a truly incredible sporting feat.

What a thing to experience.
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And Liverpool were being aided and abetted in almost every one of their games
It was truly outstanding
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Bollocks. I’m a big Pep fan but if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead, with six games to go, in a race with United he wouldn’t get within four points of them.

We’d have lost ‘that’ derby as well. He’d have spent the entire week leading up to it telling everyone how we don’t deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as them and the players would have picked up on it and entered the field as beaten men.

Pep is a better manager, for sure, but given what Mancini had to overcome, he was the best man in the world for this club, at that time.

Mancini biggest mistake was making this club and our fans believe we could win. He was never forgiven for that by a vociferous minority on here and never will be.

Put it this way, no Mancini -> no Pep.
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All these years later and you’re still fucking clueless. Fair play for staying true to yourself.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not sure that’s completely correct mate. Obviously everyone remembers him giving it to Ferguson in that Derby in April 2012, but Mancini was generally quite measured and respectful talking about Ferguson and United, at least up to that point.

Plus, the stats don’t back up your argument as Mancini’s league derby win percentage was less than 50% and Guardiola’s is more than 50%.

Plus your first paragraph conspicuously ignores all those incredible winning streaks we’ve been on when closing a title down under Guardiola, including every one of the last 14 games in 2019. If you are chasing someone down, it simply isn’t possible to do more than win all your games, so I don’t get your logic.
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It also forgets the fact Mancini basically ceded the title to United after the Arsenal defeat and but for brain farts from United against (Wigan? Or Bolton?) and Everton, we would have gotten a look in.

Plus his management of Tevez away in Munich was part and parcel of the reason why we were behind when we were.

I love Mancini but Pep is in another league.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Bollocks. I’m a big Pep fan but if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead, with six games to go, in a race with United he wouldn’t get within four points of them.

We’d have lost ‘that’ derby as well. He’d have spent the entire week leading up to it telling everyone how we don’t deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as them and the players would have picked up on it and entered the field as beaten men.

Pep is a better manager, for sure, but given what Mancini had to overcome, he was the best man in the world for this club, at that time.

Mancini biggest mistake was making this club and our fans believe we could win. He was never forgiven for that by a vociferous minority on here and never will be.

Put it this way, no Mancini -> no Pep.
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Half way through the season that had Pep come to us and Mourinho to the rags, i was chatting to a rag and I said what a mistake it was for them to employ Mourinho as he was poison and a busted flush
He didn't disagree, but he asked, and was quite right, when he said "when you look at your (City's) squad, don't you think you've underachieved for the last half dozen seasons?"
 
SWP's back said:
It also forgets the fact Mancini basically ceded the title to United after the Arsenal defeat and but for brain farts from United against (Wigan? Or Bolton?) and Everton, we would have gotten a look in.

Plus his management of Tevez away in Munich was part and parcel of the reason why we were behind when we were.

I love Mancini but Pep is in another league.
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Wigan. We played West Brom the same night.

Of the two, Mancini is by some distance the most flawed. And like you, I love Mancini too, but as you say, Pep is in another league.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Wigan. We played West Brom the same night.
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That’s it. Their game finished 5-10 mins after ours and I remember driving out stuck in the traffic with the windows open and 5 Live on loud so people walking alongside could listen to it and everyone cheering to fuck when the final whistle went. Hoppy days. I also helped us by betting around £200 on United to beat Everton as I knew any dropped points put it back in our hands.

Ps do you remember me briefly losing my wallet in Munich. I still wake up sweating from those five minutes before the taxi driver brought it back.
 
SWP's back said:
That’s it. Their game finished 5-10 mins after ours and I remember driving out in the traffic so the Beth windows open and 5 Live on loud so people walking alongside could listen to it and everyone cheering to fuck when the final whistle went. Hoppy days. I also helped us by betting around £200 on United to beat Everton as I knew any dropped points put it back in our hands.

Ps do you remember me briefly losing my wallet in Munich. I still wake up sweating from those five minutes before the taxi driver brought it back.
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Yes I do mate x

Was talking about that trip Munich earlier this week when a work colleague said that going to the Octoberfest is on his bucket list. Think you’d gone by then but me and my mate went back there the day after the game and we got so pissed and lost each other with both our phones dead. We bumped into each other in some random place near the Rathaus, away from the Octoberfest about an hour after we split up. I’d say that was the most relieved I’ve ever been (and as relieved as you were to get your wallet back the day before) as we were flying back a few hours later!

Great trip :-)
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Yes I do mate x

Was talking about that trip Munich earlier this week when a work colleague said that going to the Octoberfest is on his bucket list. Think you’d gone by then but me and my mate went back there the day after the game and we got so pissed and lost each other with both our phones dead. We bumped into each other in some random place near the Rathaus, away from the Octoberfest about an hour after we split up. I’d say that was the most relieved I’ve ever been (and as relieved as you were to get your wallet back the day before) as we were flying back a few hours later!

Great trip :-)
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Haha yeah, I don’t think my Dad, his rest his soul, loved it to be honest as we did the same day trip. Turned into a fucking long day and the walk up to the seats seemed to take several decades.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It staggers me how casually that run is overlooked from within parts of our own support.

I’ll happily argue with anyone that it is one of the greatest ever achievements in the history of team sport. The historical statistics bear this out. Wining every one if the last 14 games, when the pressure was on in every game, when our opponents were breathing down our necks (or marginally ahead) is a truly incredible sporting feat.

What a thing to experience.
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In addition to a 2-0 victory at the Swamp, we ground out five 1-0 wins in that run. It was the greatest display of cojones in PL history. My blood pressure was up there with Sid James’ when Anita Harris dropped her pen that time in Carry On Doctor……
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Bollocks. I’m a big Pep fan but if Pep found himself 8 points off the lead, with six games to go, in a race with United he wouldn’t get within four points of them.

We’d have lost ‘that’ derby as well. He’d have spent the entire week leading up to it telling everyone how we don’t deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as them and the players would have picked up on it and entered the field as beaten men.

Pep is a better manager, for sure, but given what Mancini had to overcome, he was the best man in the world for this club, at that time.

Mancini biggest mistake was making this club and our fans believe we could win. He was never forgiven for that by a vociferous minority on here and never will be.

Put it this way, no Mancini -> no Pep.
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This is hilarious.

“Manconi’s biggest mistake was making this club and our fans believe we could win”.

Football. Bloody hell.
 
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