Cashless society

KS55 said:
The cashless society is interfering with my pastry making. I have no baking beads so I use coins on a piece of parchment. I am now chronically short of coins. Bank cards don’t taking kindly to 20 mins @ 175C.
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got a tin of shrapnel you can have in exchange for a nice Eccles cake.
 
Not a good idea on a day like this when one of the biggest internet servers has failed. Apparently many banking apps not working at present.
 
All those manky hands and places that cash has been in. All those nostrils using rolled up notes to sniff coke and ket and whatever else. Mmmm.
 
Blue Mist said:
Yes it will.
Years ago I.D. cards were mooted. Everyone was up in arms about government surveillance etc. A cashless society is exactly the same, they will know everything about you.
My mum's 88, she doesn't have a computer, (online banking) when cash goes, what does she do ?
Going to a City match the tram charged me £8.60 instead of £3.40. I only found out by chance, if I'd paid cash it simply wouldn't have happened.
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Spot on .... they are attempting to push through digital ID cards right now, but would you really trust them to look after all your data in their databases??? They seem to fall over at will every time serious hackers pay them a visit !!

And it's what the Government will covertly ADD to these cards, once they're up and running, that should be a worry for everyone.
 
Blue Mist said:
Yes it will.
Years ago I.D. cards were mooted. Everyone was up in arms about government surveillance etc. A cashless society is exactly the same, they will know everything about you.
My mum's 88, she doesn't have a computer, (online banking) when cash goes, what does she do ?
Going to a City match the tram charged me £8.60 instead of £3.40. I only found out by chance, if I'd paid cash it simply wouldn't have happened.
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People wont fight the introduction of this card system that takes your money off you digitally without a sniff of you knowing about it so they wont fight the ID cards which I would support because I have the sum total of fuck all to hide.

Paying by card is so fucking soulless.
 
I was in the Trafford centre this morning with the wife and we ordered two coffees and a cake totalling 9-60. I offered them a £10 note with the intention of telling them to keep the change and was told that they don't accept cash. Their loss, no tip and commission to pay on the card payment. We won't be going back.
 
tweety said:
I was in the Trafford centre this morning with the wife and we ordered two coffees and a cake totalling 9-60. I offered them a £10 note with the intention of telling them to keep the change and was told that they don't accept cash. Their loss, no tip and commission to pay on the card payment. We won't be going back.
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Thing is, other than the tip which is the staffs loss not the businesses, there isn’t really any loss. If you’d wanted your 40p change they’d have had to have provided it. That means paying to get coinage delivered from a company, then it means securing it outside opening hours. Your tenner needs banking, that means going to the bank, paying it in and being charged for the privilege. It’s been over ten years since I had to worry about transaction fees and bank charges but, even back then, from memory, debit card fees were only around 15p a transaction.
 
You can fly to Spain for a tenner and people think they're going to start limiting you to one sandwich a day?
 
tweety said:
I was in the Trafford centre this morning with the wife and we ordered two coffees and a cake totalling 9-60. I offered them a £10 note with the intention of telling them to keep the change and was told that they don't accept cash. Their loss, no tip and commission to pay on the card payment. We won't be going back.
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Service staff, many of whom rely on tips to supplement a low wage, are the ones badly affected by not taking cash. Sure some businesses you can add a tip on your card but I often wonder how the staff get that if they don't hold cash.
Also a lot won't do that for just a coffee and cake visit. If they paid cash though they would probably throw the shrapnel into a tip bowl, which all adds up at the end of the day.
I always used cash in Tenerife as I could withdraw Euro's on my chase card free of charge with Banke Marche. The robbing bastards have now started charging me €5.50 every transaction so it's card only from now on. I do take some Euros cash to tip bar staff etcetera but it's a shame they've started doing this.
 
Shops, cafés, etc. that don't take cash tell you it's for your convenience, well it isn't for mine and if I'd have known about the no cash policy before I'd ordered i wouldn't have gone there.
Don't get me started about the number of Klarna stickers I saw in shop windows encouraging people to buy tat on the never never.
 
N1985 said:
Really? You'll have to tell me some of the countries that have gone cashless
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A lot of countries still use more cash than cards including Austria and Germany. I don't understand why people are either just accepting this plastic shite or ignoring it because after the outages in technology we should be edging more to physical transactions with hard earned.

Obviously buying cheap Chinese shit online you need to buy it with the cheap plastic card they probably made for you to do it with.

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Cash is completely pointless because of inflation.

£1 put into the right place will be worth more than £1 sat in your pocket. Virtually all cash below 10p is already effectively worthless because what can you buy for less than 10p?
 
Bozzie said:
Thing is, other than the tip which is the staffs loss not the businesses, there isn’t really any loss. If you’d wanted your 40p change they’d have had to have provided it. That means paying to get coinage delivered from a company, then it means securing it outside opening hours. Your tenner needs banking, that means going to the bank, paying it in and being charged for the privilege. It’s been over ten years since I had to worry about transaction fees and bank charges but, even back then, from memory, debit card fees were only around 15p a transaction.
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And despite all that, places had the cheek to charge you for paying by card as if it was ever free to bank cash.
 
We've got Guardiola said:
Cash is completely pointless because of inflation.

£1 put into the right place will be worth more than £1 sat in your pocket. Virtually all cash below 10p is already effectively worthless because what can you buy for less than 10p?
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You don't keep it you spend it, we're not talking about stuffing your bed full of it we're talking about spending it.

People have always kept their money in a bank, they do however draw it out to spend it.
 
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