Are you suggesting savinho is better than both you mentioned? If so, how?still waiting for the attainable wingers that are supposedly world class. When I look at the other top clubs there don’t seem to be that many. PSG literally has all of them and the other 3-4 play for clubs that will never sell. Other options ain’t better than what we have as dumb as it sounds. Semenyo gets more space playing for Bournemouth - will be different playing for city. Everton‘s 10 flopped in marseille
So many on here wouldn't know a player, even if they were slapped around the face with a wet haddock, that had "he's not fucking good enough" tattooed on it.Yeh, imagine expecting them to do some defensive work, usually after they've lost the ball, or asking them to get a cross in in the vicinity of one of our players, to pass to a teammate, to have a shot that isn't as powerful as a back-pass. Savinho, especially, isn't capable and if I don't see his gormless, lost face again (usually appealing for a non foul), it will be too soon. I see the usuals are getting all indignant about the criticism - because they "see something in him" - well news alert - this is the prem and you can only carry dead-weights for so long. He's had a decent run to now see he's nowhere near the required standard, nor likely to be. Sorry if that offends - but the way he plays, offends me.
100%spot on.The 3 of them are not good enough.If he was in the academy he would have been farmed out to a mid table european side.Who ever decided not to sell to Spurs was negligent.Love this rant! All this pussy footing around about could become this or might become that is nauseating. Give him a holler if and when that ever happens. Meanwhile whatever happened to right fucking now. This isn't meant to be some development club.
Leao is a funny case since he needs space to release 100% of his potential - not only is he older but also very inconsistent and has like 10 good games a season . Probably the worst example out there. There’s a reason he is still there where he is.Are you suggesting savinho is better than both you mentioned? If so, how?
Semenyo is levels above, as is Bowen.
Ndiaye is also unquestionably more suited to the premier league and provides more output.
In Europe there’s Rafa Leao.
Without sounding arrogant I don’t think any of those are unattainable for city if they really wanted to get the deal done.
He will of couse have a half decent game v Bournemouth and the mega I Told You So's will be out in force. This sort of player will have an ok game from time to time - but will never be consistently good enough.So many on here wouldn't know a player, even if they were slapped around the face with a wet haddock, that had "he's not fucking good enough" tattooed on it.
Top Blues syndrome is comical as fuck.
I think Palmer would have struggled for us at RW, as most players would. He's excelled at Chelsea in a different position, coming up against different type of defences. Have him hugging the touchline on the RW for us (with our slow build up and against packed defences) and I suspect we would be saying similar about him as we do about our current crop of wingers.I think the club have just fucked up with the wingers over a period of about 3 years. Spent 100 million on grealish who was nothing but OK, then Sold mahrez too early, then sold palmer right when he was about to pop off (would have played RW for us) then bought 21 year old doku who wasnt ready, then bought 20 year old Savio who wasn't ready and now promoted 22 year old Bobb who isn't ready. There are no right decisions in this position for years, and eventually that's just gonna get you.
We must sign a proven quantity who produces numbers reliably at all costs in the summer if not Jan.
Agree he may have found it a lot harder but with a consistent run he’d be producing far more than our current occupants. His ability to deliver a cross or find half a yard for a shot against packed defences is levels away from our wingers. He’d want an overlapping fullback though so would probably have struggled like fuck on Sunday due to not having much pace in that barmy Pep system first half!I think Palmer would have struggled for us at RW, as most players would. He's excelled at Chelsea in a different position, coming up against different type of defences. Have him hugging the touchline on the RW for us (with our slow build up and against packed defences) and I suspect we would be saying similar about him as we do about our current crop of wingers.
Excellent post……can’t argue with any of your comments……Savinho’s strengths lie in having loads of space to roam into on the counter, where he doesn’t have to use his (lack of) brains or 1v1 ability. He’s not going to get that at City against low blocks. He is literally not built for this level.
His touch isn’t very good, he’s a capable but not outstanding dribbler and his end product is atrocious.
Doku works cos he can take a man on from a standing start like nobody we’ve ever seen.
Sterling worked because he could get himself into scoring positions so consistently.
Sane worked for similar reasons to Doku, and because he had good end product.
Mahrez worked because he was a clever little bastard and had magical feet, and again had good end product.
What does Savinho have that gives him the edge against teams parking the bus?
I’ll tell you, he has absolutely fuck all. It’s not going to work out until we drop deeper and create counters and realistically, that’s never going to happen.
Savinho’s strengths lie in having loads of space to roam into on the counter, where he doesn’t have to use his (lack of) brains or 1v1 ability. He’s not going to get that at City against low blocks. He is literally not built for this level.
His touch isn’t very good, he’s a capable but not outstanding dribbler and his end product is atrocious.
Doku works cos he can take a man on from a standing start like nobody we’ve ever seen.
Sterling worked because he could get himself into scoring positions so consistently.
Sane worked for similar reasons to Doku, and because he had good end product.
Mahrez worked because he was a clever little bastard and had magical feet, and again had good end product.
What does Savinho have that gives him the edge against teams parking the bus?
I’ll tell you, he has absolutely fuck all. It’s not going to work out until we drop deeper and create counters and realistically, that’s never going to happen.
Tell me what Savinho has in terms of fundamentals that makes you think he’ll actually come good.Even Sana would struggle now in this team against teams now in premier who all get men behind the ball, look back at the space the likes of Sana got, crucially though he had Kdb silva gundogan in that side! This side is in a big transition with the new young players we have in the side! The main main reason is teams now are much better in premier coached better defend better have better players! Some fans don’t take this all into account they look at players make there mind up after one season and they say he ain’t good enough he will never be good enough! For me Savino is in the early stages of his development with pep! I’m giving him all this season and probably half of next season when honestly he be still very young who will have development to come. Look at Mahres how he learned his trade for example! It’s mainly black or white with some fans! I’d guarantee these people saying Savino ain’t good enough, if he all of sudden clicks end this season with 30 G/A they’ll start to change their minds! What I try to do is not pre judge players after a year or 2 I wait then make my decision! This pre judging players calling them out or saying they never be good enough then change there mind is not support it’s glory supporting!
Tell me what Savinho has in terms of fundamentals that makes you think he’ll actually come good.
I just don’t really see much upside with him.
What is he good at? Can you tell me, because I can’t figure it out.
I think he’ll still end up a very good winger but it’s hard to argue that currently he’s not producing at all. One defence of him from your criticisms i would have is his touch. His first touch is very goodSavinho’s strengths lie in having loads of space to roam into on the counter, where he doesn’t have to use his (lack of) brains or 1v1 ability. He’s not going to get that at City against low blocks. He is literally not built for this level.
His touch isn’t very good, he’s a capable but not outstanding dribbler and his end product is atrocious.
Doku works cos he can take a man on from a standing start like nobody we’ve ever seen.
Sterling worked because he could get himself into scoring positions so consistently.
Sane worked for similar reasons to Doku, and because he had good end product.
Mahrez worked because he was a clever little bastard and had magical feet, and again had good end product.
What does Savinho have that gives him the edge against teams parking the bus?
I’ll tell you, he has absolutely fuck all. It’s not going to work out until we drop deeper and create counters and realistically, that’s never going to happen.
That’s true that without the players around them being of previous levels it’s harder for all of them. We’re at a stage at the moment where the wingers are getting the blame for everything. I seen some on here saying Foden didn’t produce on Sunday because of the wingers. Don’t get me wrong there have been plenty of encouraging signs from Foden this season compared to last. However, he’s got the main man role at the moment and needs to produce soon.There were about 3xs on Sunday when if he got the ball right Haaland was in.The sort of pass you know KDB or David would have produced with their eyes closed.Even Sana would struggle now in this team against teams now in premier who all get men behind the ball, look back at the space the likes of Sana got, crucially though he had Kdb silva gundogan in that side! This side is in a big transition with the new young players we have in the side! The main main reason is teams now are much better in premier coached better defend better have better players! Some fans don’t take this all into account they look at players make there mind up after one season and they say he ain’t good enough he will never be good enough! For me Savino is in the early stages of his development with pep! I’m giving him all this season and probably half of next season when honestly he be still very young who will have development to come. Look at Mahres how he learned his trade for example! It’s mainly black or white with some fans! I’d guarantee these people saying Savino ain’t good enough, if he all of sudden clicks end this season with 30 G/A they’ll start to change their minds! What I try to do is not pre judge players after a year or 2 I wait then make my decision! This pre judging players calling them out or saying they never be good enough then change there mind is not support it’s glory supporting!
Tell me what Savinho has in terms of fundamentals that makes you think he’ll actually come good.
I just don’t really see much upside with him.
What is he good at? Can you tell me, because I can’t figure it out.
Savinho is more infuriating than Bobb who is more infuriating than Doku who is more infuriating than Savinho who is more infuriating than Bobb who is more infuriating than Doku who is more infuriating than Savinho who is more infuriating than Bobb who is more infuriating than Doku who is more infuriating than Savinho.
If you listen to Peps presser yday RE Savinho, he was asked about his move to Spurs and he answered it very politically, stating it is the club who makes the final decision and that he can only give his opinion. I read that as, 'I would have sold him given the chance but the club wanted to keep him'.You watched the Villarreal game? He has pace glides past players with the ball he has assists in him he presses well gets back well! Oh Pep had him for over a year and still believes in him..
He is only 21 he can develop a lot more in the next 2/3 years.. I rather back a player than be wrong after 2/3 years when it’s a very young player coming from a different league! Reiijnders on the other hand gets just gets about 18 months because? Well you should know..