Huntingdon Train Incident - Reports of multiple stabbings

[LangleyBlue1970]

Is that meant for me mate? Think I was copied in incorrectly there

No mate, I’d posted on yours earlier but for some reason your quote stuck. Apologies.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Just a quick reminder that over 14 years the then Govt allowed the various rail operators to cut station staff to the bone and actively campaigned against trains having guards and on board staff all in pursuit of allowing their mates operating the system to milk even more profit out of the system

Plus chronic underfunding of the BTP which has hindered safety and security.

In my region there are only 10 officers with 2 delegates per shift.

In Lincolnshire there are literally 2.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Plus chronic underfunding of the BTP which has hindered safety and security.

In my region there are only 10 officers with 2 delegates per shift.

In Lincolnshire there are literally 2.

yeah but terrorists ............. fucking joke - the rot set in years ago - small state means vulnerable people BUT vulnerable people don't realise that is them ........... they are the vulnerable ones

 

[Victorinodennistua]

Nailed it.

Profit over safety.

I was hoping GBR would change that attitude. However they've decided to 'keep the experts'. Who all happen to be the shysters who worked for the private firms so they only think one way.

Bit suspicious some of the old TOC owners have created a railway staff agency to cover roles.

Human Swiss Army knife. Probably doing the hot food before cleaning the bogs

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Have to give great credit to the rail worker who put his life on the line to defend others, hopefully he pulls through.

Unfortunately we live in a world with far too many cunts in it. It's a pity from my perspective that the police didn't rid us of this one.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

just reading on bbc news that the train driver was ex military, sounds like he reacted probably quicker and more effectively than most in alerting the police and diverting the train quickly, possibly saved several lives this bloke.

He followed their established orotocol

 

[meltonblue]

Really hope the LNER member of staff recovers, sounds like an absolute hero.

Be interested to find out (if we do) what the motivations of the attacker were. It’s absolutely wonderful news that most of the people are ok but, as horrific as this sounds, that he attacked that many people without killing them, I can’t think of a past example of that.

 

[halfmist]

Plus chronic underfunding of the BTP which has hindered safety and security.

In my region there are only 10 officers with 2 delegates per shift.

In Lincolnshire there are literally 2.

I have never understood why there is a separate police force anyway. It makes a mockery of those signs if you see anything suspicious report it to the BTP. If it is so thinly spread the suspicious person will have long since gone.

 

[TinFoilHat]

I have never understood why there is a separate police force anyway. It makes a mockery of those signs if you see anything suspicious report it to the BTP. If it is so thinly spread the suspicious person will have long since gone.

The Tories cut their budget and Schapps decided they would be replaced by normal plod. Then changed his mind but kept the budget cuts.

 

[mrcunny]

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Nottingham Forest Football Club wishes to express its deepest concern and heartfelt sympathy to all those affected by the shocking attack on an LNER train bound for London yesterday evening.Many of our London-based supporters were travelling home on that train following our match at the City Ground, and our thoughts are very much with everyone caught up in such a distressing incident.The Club is aware that many individuals demonstrated extraordinary bravery which undoubtedly helped prevent even greater harm. The entire Nottingham Forest family stands firmly behind them as they recover from the events of yesterday.Evangelos Marinakis, Nottingham Forest’s owner, said:“Everyone at Nottingham Forest is shocked and deeply saddened by what happened. The courage and selflessness shown by our supporters on that train represents the very best of humanity and the very best of our club’s community.“We will make sure any supporter caught up in this incident receives whatever financial support they require to enable them to access the best possible medical care as they recover. Our thoughts and prayers are with all those affected.”

Well done Forest xx

 

[metalblue]

The reason that a terrorist charge needs to be investigated and charged correctly is because the sentencing guidelines are often higher upon conviction, and post-release requirements ensure that such criminals are often more closely monitored. I think this is why people are concerned that the full facts are established and made transparent, even if it does happen to be a couple of nutters with knives attempting to murder numerous innocent people. It's not always about left and right, it's often concerned citizens hoping that knife wielding maniacs receiving substantial appropriate sentences. Remember, many folk have already lost trust in the police and CPS precisely because of previous crimes being under-charged.

Correct. Which is why I addressed the post that said in their mind it was terrorism - ie it terrorised all those on the train - and that is a reasonable stance. However as you rightly point out the correct charge needs to be laid for the correct justice to be served.

 

[mackenzie]

The security protocol for what we call a MTA is get the train to a station where Armed police can attend safely. It's better than dropping anchor in the middle of nowhere. The train the incident occured on has good cab security with thick metal doors that can only be opened by the driver/guard.

As you say it must have been the slowest 5 minutes of the passengers lives.

Yes, apologies. I should have clarified; I wasn't having a go (far from it) at how long it took for the train to be stopped, merely the hell those passengers and train staff must have gone through in those 5 minutes.
I was knifed several times many years ago. It was an horrendous experience and it only lasted about 2 minutes. I can only imagine the sheer horror for those last night, but I do have an inkling.
You are completely helpless against a knife. And you are aware of that fact every second while the attack continues.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Yes, apologies. I should have clarified; I wasn't having a go (far from it) at how long it took for the train to be stopped, merely the hell those passengers and train staff must have gone through in those 5 minutes.
I was knifed several times many years ago. It was an horrendous experience and it only lasted about 2 minutes. I can only imagine the sheer horror for those last night, but I do have an inkling.
You are completely helpless against a knife. And you are aware of that fact every second while the attack continues.

I didn't read it as if you we're having a go Macca.

You are spot on with this post

 

[PinkFinal]

It's perhaps another case of serious mental illness who knows. Although obviously this will be met with rolling eyes.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Ha, I was going to say that but good luck with onslaught you’ll receive. I just came home for a night from hunt camp, leaving early in the morning. I’ll leave you to it

You called it! Like moths to a flame!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Terrible news. Must have been terrifying.

Oh and can the yank gun nuts start their own thread where they can talk about polishing their massive guns with their tiny cocks. No need for it in here at all.

The poster to whom I replied brought up the issue of guns, not me.

P.S. If you have information on how to polish my “massive guns with my tiny cock,” please share, as it sounds cheaper than the supplies I currently have to buy. Cheers! ;-)

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The notion of ‘good guys’ battling against ‘bad guys’ having so much cultural currency is probably the main reason that gun deaths are so prolific in the States because it legitimises and reinforces widespread gun ownership, and provides a simplistic and utterly flawed solution to a complex problem.

It serves as a specious justification for a system around gun ownership that causes widespread misery and fear - and ultimately enables (inter alia) school shootings to take place more readily.

Gun ownership doesn’t require “legitimacy” or to “reinforce widespread gun ownership” in the USA, it’s a protected RIGHT…which you know, of course…inter alia!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Indeed.

We should adapt your mantra to...

"The only thing would stop a bad guy with a knife is a good guy with a knife"...

Why make the odds even or require close proximity? They say “Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight” for a reason, and it’s not to compare close combat knife fighting skills!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Please explain why there is.

All data requires analysis to understand a trend. That analysis is done with statistics.

For example. The temperature of the surface of the earth has risen over recent years. That's a fact, which we know through statistics.

Likewise, nothing can be reliably known about overall levels of knife crime without statistical analysis. Anything else is nothing more than personal opinion.

You have yourself just posted a distinction ffs! One is concomitant of the other. And they are therefore wholly distinct.

Stats are mere numbers that are prone to manipulation. A fact is not a fact if the numbers being fed to it are misleading.

I choose not to believe these statistics as representing the picture as I see it. Don’t do this often, but I’m doing it here. There is absolutely no way knife crime isn’t more significantly on the rise than in that graph. The numbers are wrong.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I choose not to believe these statistics as representing the picture as I see it. Don’t do this often, but I’m doing it here. There is absolutely no way knife crime isn’t more significantly on the rise than in that graph. The numbers are wrong.

This is what's wrong with our politics.

Don't like reality?

No problem.