Why is Cancer so difficult to treat?

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Will there ever be a cure? I read articles once in a while about new, cutting edge research happening however when I look at the survival rates of the most aggressive Cancers, there hasn’t been much improvements.
Curious what people here think.
 
Perplexity says:

Cancer is hard to treat because it is not a single disease but an umbrella term for over 200 different types, each with unique genetic and molecular characteristics.

The complexity is heightened by the fact that cancer cells within the same tumor can be genetically diverse, meaning some cells can resist treatment and cause the cancer to return or spread.

Additionally, cancer cells continuously mutate, often developing resistance to therapies that initially worked, forcing the need for alternative treatments which may not always be available.

Cancer cells also evade the immune system and lack the normal control mechanisms that regulate cell growth and death, making them especially resilient.

Furthermore, cancer stem cells, which can regenerate the tumor, are difficult to target and eliminate, contributing to the recurrence of the disease.

This multifaceted nature of cancer requires highly personalized and adaptive treatment strategies, which is why a universal cure remains elusive despite extensive research.[worldwidecancerresearch]

In short, it’s a large group of sneaky, slippery buggers that are constantly moving targets that are also always changing to thwart your efforts to snuff them out!

One day, maybe, but it’s almost like we are playing so much catch up we may never get ahead of it.
 
the bit i struggle with and better people than me will have answer or reason why they do it but they find lump, growth or malformation then stick a needle into it and take sample but when ever ive watch op's not many i grant but they say heres the growth and it appears tobe contained in own bubble like skin why pop it and spread leaking cancer cell to other parts of body. i dont know how they'd diagnosis without doing this but still feels wrong

i guess thats why need more research
 
I wonder if lack of funding is a bottleneck for any progress in treatments? I also think doctors themselves sometimes don’t have an idea what they are dealing with and then delay diagnosis, especially if someone is “young”.
 
All I know is that it is a fcuker anywhere you get it in your body. Some people survive treatment, many, sadly don't. More prevalent now because we are living longer, but equally it's merciless when it attacks children and youngsters. Had personal experience in the family last few years, we had done well to escape the clutches until then.

Any of my fundraising now goes to cancer research.
 
Lost a few close family members to cancer over the years, always struggled that it seems to be increasing rather than reducing. I used to see comments about cancer affecting 1 in every 4 people, now seeing statements about 1 in 2 people.

Cruel bastard if a disease.
 
My first job after uni was as a research scientist at cancer research uk. Interesting but poorly paid work. I was working on adeno viral gene vectors and their role in the onset of cancers (specifically ORF B) and use as therapeutic targets….for those of you with a science background.

Whilst there are some new and novel treatments for a range of common cancers it’s a terrible disease for everyone, the patient, and their extended family.

Cancer is simply cell division that is out of control due to mutations in DNA. These cells can then travel through the blood stream to other sites in the body and attach to the basal cell membrane and continue to grow uncontrollably, in a process called metastasis…

There will never be a universal cure but there might eventually be effective treatment for all of the common types of cancer.
 
dadnlad said:
the bit i struggle with and better people than me will have answer or reason why they do it but they find lump, growth or malformation then stick a needle into it and take sample but when ever ive watch op's not many i grant but they say heres the growth and it appears tobe contained in own bubble like skin why pop it and spread leaking cancer cell to other parts of body. i dont know how they'd diagnosis without doing this but still feels wrong

i guess thats why need more research
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Indeed. Sticking a needle into Trumour is complete madness and ,imo,accentuates the release/ spread of the cancerous cells.around the body...this leads to the oh it's spread / there is nothing we can do results.
A rumour is the body's way of encapsulating the dangerous cells in one area they cannot spread and to damage! Prick the tumour and it's obvious what will happen,surely ?

Avoiding sugar( cancer cells feed on glucose) Fasting ( starve the bad cells of any energy ) and or ensuring the body's PH level is correct are more effective ways that have been shown,down the years,to deal with cancer.

Tumeric,is just one herb which is tremendous at dealing with tumours/ inflammation
Mother Nature knows best....Tumour....Tumeric.....a little hint there maybe.

" Let thy food be they medicine"...not chemo or radiation.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Indeed. Sticking a needle into Trumour is complete madness and ,imo,accentuates the release/ spread of the cancerous cells.around the body...this leads to the oh it's spread / there is nothing we can do results.
A rumour is the body's way of encapsulating the dangerous cells in one area they cannot spread and to damage! Prick the tumour and it's obvious what will happen,surely ?

Avoiding sugar( cancer cells feed on glucose) Fasting ( starve the bad cells of any energy ) and or ensuring the body's PH level is correct are more effective ways that have been shown,down the years,to deal with cancer.

Tumeric,is just one herb which is tremendous at dealing with tumours/ inflammation
Mother Nature knows best....Tumour....Tumeric.....a little hint there maybe.

" Let thy food be they medicine"...not chemo or radiation.
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What is the correct pH for one's body and how do you measure it easily? There are plenty of industrial pH measuring systems ("hello" to all those at Endress + Hauser in Wythenshawe) but are there any domestic ones?
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Indeed. Sticking a needle into Trumour is complete madness and ,imo,accentuates the release/ spread of the cancerous cells.around the body...this leads to the oh it's spread / there is nothing we can do results.
A rumour is the body's way of encapsulating the dangerous cells in one area they cannot spread and to damage! Prick the tumour and it's obvious what will happen,surely ?

Avoiding sugar( cancer cells feed on glucose) Fasting ( starve the bad cells of any energy ) and or ensuring the body's PH level is correct are more effective ways that have been shown,down the years,to deal with cancer.

Tumeric,is just one herb which is tremendous at dealing with tumours/ inflammation
Mother Nature knows best....Tumour....Tumeric.....a little hint there maybe.

" Let thy food be they medicine"...not chemo or radiation.
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Yep great idea. Let me guess, big pharma push Chemo and Radiotherapy to make $$$$ when Turmeric could cure you for a few quid?

www.dailymail.co.uk

Woman `almost died´ trying to cure cancer with juice diet

Medics tried to get Irena Stoynova to use conventional cancer treatments after she was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin lymphoma in June 2021, but she 'shut them out'.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Avoiding sugar( cancer cells feed on glucose) Fasting ( starve the bad cells of any energy ) and or ensuring the body's PH level is correct are more effective ways that have been shown,down the years,to deal with cancer.
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Do you have a source for those claims? I don't think the first two make any sense.

All cells grow by using energy/sugar. Ergo, a lower level of energy is likely to produce slower growth everywhere, not just for cancer cells.

I think the alkaline diet thing has been looked into as well.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Indeed. Sticking a needle into Trumour is complete madness and ,imo,accentuates the release/ spread of the cancerous cells.around the body...this leads to the oh it's spread / there is nothing we can do results.
A rumour is the body's way of encapsulating the dangerous cells in one area they cannot spread and to damage! Prick the tumour and it's obvious what will happen,surely ?

Avoiding sugar( cancer cells feed on glucose) Fasting ( starve the bad cells of any energy ) and or ensuring the body's PH level is correct are more effective ways that have been shown,down the years,to deal with cancer.

Tumeric,is just one herb which is tremendous at dealing with tumours/ inflammation
Mother Nature knows best....Tumour....Tumeric.....a little hint there maybe.

" Let thy food be they medicine"...not chemo or radiation.
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Utter rubbish.

I'd be dead if I had avoided sugar, fasted or stuffed my face with Tumeric. This sort of bollocks should be treated the same way as someone being racist on here. Thread banned.

How many ways can you try and spell tumour? And who puts needles in them? Is this Facebook Surgery?
 
A mate of mine who passed away from Cancer last year started up a company/Charity to look at using CRISPR to target Cancer at a DNA level. He got a lot of interest from his Oncologist and his colleagues but im not sure how far it went.

His Cancer woudn't have been fixable using it as every new tumour ( and he had lots at the time ) was a different DNA profile. but for more stable cancers it might be a viable route forward.

Unfortunately I cant find his charity company anymore so I guess that closed down when he passed away.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Indeed. Sticking a needle into Trumour is complete madness and ,imo,accentuates the release/ spread of the cancerous cells.around the body...this leads to the oh it's spread / there is nothing we can do results.
A rumour is the body's way of encapsulating the dangerous cells in one area they cannot spread and to damage! Prick the tumour and it's obvious what will happen,surely ?

Avoiding sugar( cancer cells feed on glucose) Fasting ( starve the bad cells of any energy ) and or ensuring the body's PH level is correct are more effective ways that have been shown,down the years,to deal with cancer.

Tumeric,is just one herb which is tremendous at dealing with tumours/ inflammation
Mother Nature knows best....Tumour....Tumeric.....a little hint there maybe.

" Let thy food be they medicine"...not chemo or radiation.
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Really....


www.bbc.co.uk

Mum's anti-chemotherapy views influenced Paloma Shemirani's death

Paloma Shemirani died after refusing chemotherapy despite a diagnosis of non-Hodgkin lymphoma.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
roy.or.r said:
Will there ever be a cure? I read articles once in a while about new, cutting edge research happening however when I look at the survival rates of the most aggressive Cancers, there hasn’t been much improvements.
Curious what people here think.
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Two friends of mine recently given all clear after breast cancer and i know a couple of old boys who've beat throat cancer.
On the flip side, i've had friends die within 4 weeks of diagnosis.

Lots of cancers can now be sorted out and a diagnosis is not necessarily a death sentence.
 
abu13 said:
Lost a few close family members to cancer over the years, always struggled that it seems to be increasing rather than reducing. I used to see comments about cancer affecting 1 in every 4 people, now seeing statements about 1 in 2 people.

Cruel bastard if a disease.
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That's because people are far less likely to die of cardiac conditions or stroke earlier in life so more often are diagnosed with cancer later in life. Or to put it another way, 40 years ago blokes would drop down dead from a heart attack at 70 but these days the equivalent will live to 85 but eventually be diagnosed with cancer.
 
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