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Be interesting to know if that has ever happened before in a single passage of play ? Probably in Spain (Barca), Germany (Bayern) or maybe Brazil somewhere like that but has it been done in this country at this level ?

City at United in 2022:




City at West Brom in 2017:

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Trying to find a highlights package that includes the full build up to the 1st goal when we had the ball deep in our left defensive corner and played it out superbly. Obviously not shown on MOTD or the Sky highlights.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

i feel like this is something that has been discussed before, possibly last season, but anyway;

Is Roberston offside when he's pushing? If you cant be offside from a corner, when is he offside? As soon as someone from his team touches it (in which case the pushing has ended as is 'foul' or 'not foul') or from some strange interim period when the ball is in the air?

Agreed. He's not offside when he's pushing Donnarumma. He's only offside later on. I was chatting to a Liverpool fan during this game, and initially, I thought the decision was harsh, but he thought it was the right decision based on the rules (even if the rules suck). But let's be honest, the amount of debate around it is basically all the evidence that you need that it wasn't a 'clear and obvious' error, and so the on field decision should stand.

 

[The perfect fumble]

 

[Matt Diablo]

Yes

 

[KS55]

A decent analysis. I love the narrow midfield and the space it creates for wing back play. In the close season Pep said football was changing and his response is typically genius.

 

[Dannyblue52]

Agreed. He's not offside when he's pushing Donnarumma. He's only offside later on. I was chatting to a Liverpool fan during this game, and initially, I thought the decision was harsh, but he thought it was the right decision based on the rules (even if the rules suck). But let's be honest, the amount of debate around it is basically all the evidence that you need that it wasn't a 'clear and obvious' error, and so the on field decision should stand.

If he pushed the goalkeeper during play its foul!

 

[paulchapo]

Heres another decent analysis of our and Peps evolution this season. It goes on a bit but its worth sticking with. As fans at the game we don't often see the tactics used as we're too emotionally involved, but breaking it down like this shows the hard work that goes into our training.

 

[the blue panther]

I thought that Hugo Ekitike played last Sunday. I have no recollection of his contribution. I searched for his touch map - given the way in which Haaland's been criticized in the past - but there isn't one. Even Chat GPT couldn't find one for me.

I take that it was him singing in the Liverpool coach, as it left the stadium,
"I am not, I'm not really here....."
But, frankly, it could have been almost any of 'em.

 

[youngbob]

Is that Salah offside in the build-up to the corner they're moaning about?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

If he pushed the goalkeeper during play its foul!

Well obviously it depends how much. Players constantly push each other and get away with it. Personally though, I'd like nothing more than a crackdown on players who make no effort to get to the ball and whose only function is to barge into opposing players (especially the goalkeeper) and actively block their runs. You wouldn't get away with it in any other situation. But as it is, it's defacto acceptable, because they never punish it, hence why Arsenal are top of the league. Maybe we should start doing it, and then it'll be banned quicker than a scouse complaint to the Premier League.

Definitely though, it's difficult to argue that the combination of the push immediately before and him being in an offside position directly in the path of the ball isn't affecting Donnarumma's decision making.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Is that Salah offside in the build-up to the corner they're moaning about?

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I remember thinking at the time that he might have been off.

ETA: Actually no, it was another one I remember. It's hard to tell if Salah is offside from the one you posted tbh. If anything, the player in the middle is more offside, but the ball doesn't go to him.

 

[Ajm1985]

Is there any footage of Neville saying it was blatant cheating? I can't find any actual video, just nonsense social media accounts spouting it

 

[big gaz]

Jon champion was creaming himself over the way we turned defence into attack for the first goal. His co commentator Neanderthal man called it 'unlucky for Liverpool.'

Any reference to our 20 plus pass move on Sky?

I know pissed on Sunday just catching up ;-)

 

[jrb]

VVD and LFC busted.

Premier League referees' chief Howard Webb says it was "not unreasonable" for Virgil van Dijk's goal to be disallowed for offside against Manchester City on Sunday.

Man City vs Liverpool: Disallowed Virgil van Dijk goal backed by Howard Webb

Howard Webb insists it was "not unreasonable" for Virgil van Dijk's goal to be disallowed for offside against Manchester City

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Rammy Blue]

Is that Salah offside in the build-up to the corner they're moaning about?

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But that’s irrelevant as they don’t look at the offside after it’s gone out for a corner.

 

[Rammy Blue]

VVD and LFC busted.

Premier League referees' chief Howard Webb says it was "not unreasonable" for Virgil van Dijk's goal to be disallowed for offside against Manchester City on Sunday.

Man City vs Liverpool: Disallowed Virgil van Dijk goal backed by Howard Webb

Howard Webb insists it was "not unreasonable" for Virgil van Dijk's goal to be disallowed for offside against Manchester City

www.bbc.co.uk

The audio of the decision is clear and precise, suck on that you scouse twats.

 

[levets]

Has it been mentioned that if the Doku pen had not been given then VAR should have subsequently been looking at the two blatant saves that Szoboszlai made from Cherki's follow up shots, just rewatching on motd, both clear handballs in my eyes...

That’s what I thought was being reviewed at the time

 

[Jonny Blue]

The reason Robertson was offside in the first place as it was his job to obstruct Gianluigi Donnarumma. Everyone else moved out while he stayed there trying to block him . It's that simple and obvious. Then he ducked out the way of the ball. So if course he did and was interfering with play.

 

[WestGorton]

Howard Webb is scouse busting by telling the truth. Well done.