The Russians Are Coming

mosssideblue said:
Mate. I've served 25 years in the armed forces and am now physically disabled and permanently in a wheelchair, so excuse me if I tell you to fuck off with your inference.
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Apologies, i was being a bit of a dick....i guess i was just trying to highlight my disagreement with the opinion that young people MUST sign up and enlist...but they wont because they are "delicate little snowflakes".......and those with that opinion are usually ex-servicemen and/or those who would have absolutely no intention of doing so themselves, and fall behind the convenient fact they are "too old now"

My dad, stepdad, paternal and maternal grandfathers were all in the Army and Navy...so there is some experience....and whilst they and probably you will disagree, i dont believe anyone should have to sign up to any sort of military service or action.

I didnt intend to be personal, so again apologies
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Apologies, i was being a bit of a dick....i guess i was just trying to highlight my disagreement with the opinion that young people MUST sign up and enlist...but they wont because they are "delicate little snowflakes".......and those with that opinion are usually ex-servicemen and/or those who would have absolutely no intention of doing so themselves, and fall behind the convenient fact they are "too old now"

My dad, stepdad, paternal and maternal grandfathers were all in the Army and Navy...so there is some experience....and whilst they and probably you will disagree, i dont believe anyone should have to sign up to any sort of military service or action.

I didnt intend to be personal, so again apologies
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No need to apologise.

So, assuming we are attacked and the level of current service personnel is insufficient, what would want from the Government?
 
mosssideblue said:
No need to apologise.

So, assuming we are attacked and the level of current service personnel is insufficient, what would want from the Government?
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Absolutely no idea....its an awful situation....however, id like to think those who "run the country" would use whatever diplomatic powers they have to resolve the situation.....rather than assuming thousands of young people will be happy to kill and die on their behalf.

Running the country and preventing wars is their job, they signed up for it....cant solely rely on others to try and fix their mistakes with their lives.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Absolutely no idea....its an awful situation....however, id like to think those who "run the country" would use whatever diplomatic powers they have to resolve the situation.....rather than assuming thousands of young people will be happy to kill and die on their behalf.

Running the country and preventing wars is their job, they signed up for it....cant solely rely on others to try and fix their mistakes with their lives.
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No democratic country looks for war (maybe Trump being an exception), but sadly wars start by one country invading another (Russia a clear case in point).

Under those circumstances, Zelensky had no option but to enlist, and, with the state of our current armed force capabilities, we would have to do the same if we were attacked or be taken over.

Hopefully, we will never know what would happen
 
SWP's back said:
We have enough nuclear weapons to end Russia as a society, which is why they would never invade.

Let’s also address the fact our small army is incredibly modern and would repel whatever the fuck they could muster with what’s left of their 1950’s equipped army after they couldn’t even successfully invade their neighbour.
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Part of me almost wants a conventional war with them and once and for all destroy the fuckers. Take nukes out the equation and NATO would finish them within a month.
 
cleavers said:
They visit UK waters about every couple of weeks by sea or air, their ships regularly sail up the English Channel, and usually have an escort from the RN, this has gone on through and since the cold war, Their warplanes regularly fly into the North Sea from the north, and the RAF monitor them out of Lossiemouth, and Conningsby, if they come to close we will our Eurofighters to escort them away.

Oh, and one of our "spy" planes has just been spying on Kaliningrad, and another is investigating something in the North Sea along with a German AF plane.
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What a shit spy plane

Is it pink?
 
cleavers said:
Sorry, I've worked for over 20 years alongside a young well trained and professional armed services, and they do some great work. Suggesting that all our youth are like that is plain wrong, they are also supported by dedicated civilians who provide great support. We also have thousands of cadets who joing to experience what the services might offer them.

Yes the country has it's fair share of so called "snowflakes", but I expect if the shit hit the fan, many of those would be happy to defend our country.
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Thank you General Melchett
 
cleavers said:
As for the army and air force, plenty still join (and are interested in joining - hence my comment about cadet forces earlier), but similar issues occur with retention, and in recent times particularly the sort of army postings were to wars that were seen as nothing to do with our country, where the youngsters were often cannon fodder in a foreign war.
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Do you think the formation of the UK Space Command is the sort of thing that will attract people?
 
I’ll have another crack if I have to:

“So basically, Grandad played his part in holding back the Russian Hordes... Whilst getting p*****d, fat, laid, doing the occasional Active Edge, whoring, Exercise, hurry up and waiting, getting p****d, whoring, Op Banner, exercise, eating his own body weight in Brattys, Currywurst, Schnitzel, Pommes, getting p****d, exercise, whoring..."
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Why should they...and why just youngsters at that?
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Going back to the Falklands war in 1982, I had a mate whose argument was that if he went to fight and survived, that he would return as a hero. He was very vocal about it and encouraged others to do the same.
In the event, having joined up, he was not called upon to go.
 
Scaley said:
I’ll have another crack if I have to:

“So basically, Grandad played his part in holding back the Russian Hordes... Whilst getting p*****d, fat, laid, doing the occasional Active Edge, whoring, Exercise, hurry up and waiting, getting p****d, whoring, Op Banner, exercise, eating his own body weight in Brattys, Currywurst, Schnitzel, Pommes, getting p****d, exercise, whoring..."
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You're forgetting siteguard, border guard and
 

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Scaley said:
I’ll have another crack if I have to:

“So basically, Grandad played his part in holding back the Russian Hordes... Whilst getting p*****d, fat, laid, doing the occasional Active Edge, whoring, Exercise, hurry up and waiting, getting p****d, whoring, Op Banner, exercise, eating his own body weight in Brattys, Currywurst, Schnitzel, Pommes, getting p****d, exercise, whoring..."
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You know you’re allowed to say ‘pissed’ on here, don’t you?
 
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