Stadium Developments thread - New Birmingham City Stadium revealed (p57)

[Blue Hefner]

San Siro: AC Milan and Inter to demolish stadium to compete with Premier League

The two Milan football clubs announce plans to demolish San Siro and build a new stadium - but they can they claw the back the gap with English clubs?

www.bbc.com

I’ll believe it when I see it. They’ve been talking about this for 10 years!

It’s not a great time to be building stadiums(borrowing money) but if they can play in the original whilst the new one is being built, that will help

Juventus built a new one a few years ago which has seemed to help them so hopefully this can get off the ground and these 2 are back to competing

 

[HelloCity]

 

[HelloCity]

Birmingham City stadium has been revealed.

The outside will be divisive (I like it) but internally it beats the new Spurs stadium with a huge end behind both goals.

62k
Retractable roof
A single tier stand behind both goals

 

[Centurions]

Birmingham City stadium has been revealed.

The outside will be divisive (I like it) but internally it beats the new Spurs stadium with a huge end behind both goals.

That's different at the very least, which isn't always a bad thing.

 

[Manchester33]

Birmingham City stadium has been revealed.

The outside will be divisive (I like it) but internally it beats the new Spurs stadium with a huge end behind both goals.

62k
Retractable roof
A single tier stand behind both goals

I haven’t been following Birmingham at all in recent years, but is that stadium not a little too ambitious for where they are today? 62k seats for a club who’s average attendance over the last decade is about a third of that?

The stadium looks incredibly impressive though.

 

[.db.]

Birmingham City stadium has been revealed.

The outside will be divisive (I like it) but internally it beats the new Spurs stadium with a huge end behind both goals.

62k
Retractable roof
A single tier stand behind both goals

Those plans look superb.

I love ambitious and unique architecture. It’s why I’m so unenamoured with our North Stand Etihad expansion, from the outside of the stadium the architecture is forgettable. Nobody is ever going to go home home after visiting the Etihad and say ‘wow, that stadium is incredible you just have to see it!’… but that’s what we should have aimed for with both the South Stand and North Stand expansions, something people will remember and talk about.

Fair play to Birmingham!

 

[Irlamblue]

Those plans look superb.

I love ambitious and unique architecture. It’s why I’m so unenamoured with our North Stand Etihad expansion, from the outside of the stadium the architecture is forgettable. Nobody is ever going to go home home after visiting the Etihad and say ‘wow, that stadium is incredible you just have to see it!’… but that’s what we should have aimed for with both the South Stand and North Stand expansions, something people will remember and talk about.

Fair play to Birmingham!

I've been going to our stadium since 2003
Its gone through many changes since then
I think its fukin brilliant
Every time i sit in our stadium i think to myself... This is Fabulous.
Where ever you sit it looks good.
But hey - Its my opinion.

 

[Gaz76]

Birmingham City stadium has been revealed.

The outside will be divisive (I like it) but internally it beats the new Spurs stadium with a huge end behind both goals.

62k
Retractable roof
A single tier stand behind both goals

Love the use of the chimneys for when it all goes up in smoke

 

[.db.]

I've been going to our stadium since 2003
Its gone through many changes since then
I think its fukin brilliant
Every time i sit in our stadium i think to myself... This is Fabulous.
Where ever you sit it looks good.
But hey - Its my opinion.

The Etihad is a nice looking stadium from the inside. Small tiers on the whole which stops it looking great, but it’s nice. The expanded NSL1 giant tier is going to make a huge difference to the aesthetics of the stadium from the inside as I’ve always felt it looked unfinished at both ends before the expansions.



(I took that one at the recent CL game v Dortmund.)

However, I think the outside of the Etihad is architecturally poor. There’s nothing to it, no considerations for pushing any Mancunianness or architectural ambition has gone into any of the design of the outside of the Etihad. It’s just very grey and forgettable.

Although, a bit like who your favourite band is or what your favourite car is or which Hollywood actress you think is the best looking… taste is very different from one person to another.

 

[Gordyola]

Those plans look superb.

I love ambitious and unique architecture. It’s why I’m so unenamoured with our North Stand Etihad expansion, from the outside of the stadium the architecture is forgettable. Nobody is ever going to go home home after visiting the Etihad and say ‘wow, that stadium is incredible you just have to see it!’… but that’s what we should have aimed for with both the South Stand and North Stand expansions, something people will remember and talk about.

Fair play to Birmingham!

Looks like the bought some land with a load of chimneys that have a preservation order so, they built around it Might be missing something but I don’t get it looks shite

 

[supercity88]

Credit to them for coming up with something unique, I'd personally reduce the height of the chimney features which I think would make it look even better and reduce the costs! They're excessively high and as a result I think it's quite ugly where it could be fantastic.

Whilst I personally think our stadium is brilliant, you can't argue with the fact that architecturally it's bland and the NS has prioritised efficiency to deliver the wider commercial benefits over design. Always wonder what our owners would have come up with had they been able to start from scratch.

 

[mrcakey]

Those plans look superb.

I love ambitious and unique architecture. It’s why I’m so unenamoured with our North Stand Etihad expansion, from the outside of the stadium the architecture is forgettable. Nobody is ever going to go home home after visiting the Etihad and say ‘wow, that stadium is incredible you just have to see it!’… but that’s what we should have aimed for with both the South Stand and North Stand expansions, something people will remember and talk about.

Fair play to Birmingham!

Agree 100%, but I think it's a country-wide problem with architecture in this country. Developers just get stuck on vanilla. My wife's Dutch and some of the buildings you see there, even on the side of the motorway are stunning.

 

[Irlamblue]

They had a blank Canvas..............
And come up with that.
Where's Fred Dibnah when you need him

 

[HelloCity]

Credit to them for coming up with something unique, I'd personally reduce the height of the chimney features which I think would make it look even better and reduce the costs! They're excessively high and as a result I think it's quite ugly where it could be fantastic.

Whilst I personally think our stadium is brilliant, you can't argue with the fact that architecturally it's bland and the NS has prioritised efficiency to deliver the wider commercial benefits over design. Always wonder what our owners would have come up with had they been able to start from scratch.

We'll get a new stadium over them doing the sides in my opinion.

Give it 15-20 years or so.

 

[kit's blue]

For those critical of the Etihad it still takes my breath away from outside and more so from with in . It's evolving and improving each year I am proud of our home .

 

[waspish]

I like it and bet Villa fans and owners will be worried!

 

[HelloCity]

Does anyone have any examples of new(ish) stadiums that do look great from the outside?

Even the Spurs Stadium is a bit bland from the outside.

 

[HelloCity]

I like it and bet Villa fans and owners will be worried!

Its gone down well on Villa Talk ;)

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Looks like the bought some land with a load of chimneys that have a preservation order so, they built around it Might be missing something but I don’t get it looks shite

I thought it was April 1st already. Looks terrible with all those chimneys arranged and spaced out equally. It’s a decent idea to build in elements of the past but this is overdone in my opinion.

 

[.db.]

I haven’t been following Birmingham at all in recent years, but is that stadium not a little too ambitious for where they are today? 62k seats for a club who’s average attendance over the last decade is about a third of that?

The stadium looks incredibly impressive though.

Birmingham must be the most untapped football city and region in Europe. The potential to make Birmingham a big club is huge. But it will probably take a generation to get a big sustained supporter base.

There are only 2 clubs in all levels of football in the city of Birmingham (population 1.15m). Across the West Midlands county (population 2.92m) there are only 15 clubs from levels 1-8. And none of those clubs are massively attended.

As a comparison, the city of Manchester (population 628k) has 6 clubs, and in Greater Manchester (population 2.87m) there are 21 clubs from levels 1-8 and a further 16 at levels 9+10. Some of those Gtr.Mcr clubs at levels 9+10 get attendances over 1,000, whereas no W.Mids clubs below level 5 does.

By next season, City+United will have a combined attendance of around 133,000. Whereas you don’t even get that by reckoning up Villa, Wolves, West Brom and Birmingham’s attendances (~125k).

There are a hell of a lot of people from that conurbation who don’t attend football matches.

Birmingham are surrounded by no giant clubs. When you think that we share a conurbation with United and a region with United and Liverpool, Brum’s biggest neighbours are only the size of Everton who are the fourth biggest club in our region. Across the entire Midlands region (population 11 million) there isn’t a single giant football club. Given time, Birmingham’s competition would be quite easy to overcome. It’s all about being run well.

The Midlands is like an untapped football region with medium sized clubs all happy to trudge along with no great ambition.

Run a football club very well in the Midlands, especially when you are the named club from the biggest city in the Midlands, and you could capture a huge fanbase over time.