Leverkusen (H) | CL | Post Match Thread

paulchapo said:
Fucking hell are you having a bad day or something? What's with the slagging off fellow blues' who are rightly pissed off about last night? If I'd got off my arse and walked from a flat by the side of Mary D's ,to quote yourself and paid good money to watch that shit show in the freezing cold, i'd be pissed off and i would only have had to walk ten minutes to be home, with no additional travel or hotel costs. If I'd paid for travel and a hotel on top, expecting to see the majority of the first team in a champions league game we had to win, then seeing the reserves were playing and we lost as a result I'd be livid. A bit more understanding of that fact wouldn't go amiss, or just keep your thoughts to yourself if you think they're making a fuss about nothing. I sometimes despair of people on here.
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I have complete understanding of being pissed off about the match. I set off at 14:20 and got home at 00:15. I was up for work at 6:50 this morning. I know it takes a lot and credit anyone who goes to watch City whether its a 5 minute walk or a five hour round journey. The point I'm making is that where a person travelled from is (mostly) their own choice and when Pep picks a team, he quite rightly isn't considering Mike who lives in Southampton. I think you're missing the point I've made.

I'm having a good day thanks. I've secured a radiator for my lad's room at a decent price, am having chicken and chorizo for tea and then going to see the other half on the promise of an early night. I'm not slagging anyone off, I don't want to keep my thoughts to myself - just like you clearly don't - and I'm sorry for your despair. Try not to let my posts affect your own day.
 
Cellarite said:
Do what? It's a personal choice for people to support a team from a different place, and it's a personal choice for Mancunians to move to a different place.
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Believe it or not, you are not the King of What Determines What Makes Fans Happy Or Upset. How far away is too far away to be a fan then? A mile? Five? Ten? Do you pitch a tent centre pitch at the Etihad every night? All the fans whose parents raised them City fans — should they have switched to fucking Coventry City when their parents moved them there when they were two and a half?
 
Marvin. said:
Have we in any era been able to field a 2nd XI and get away with it at this level?

I maintain that if you add Rodri to the current first XI, City have a side that is good enough to challenge for the title.

The comments that we are not as good as we were are stupid. There is no like for like comparison. We did not play our first XI vs Leverkusen and lose. What's annoying is that Pep thought he could do this and get a result
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Add prime Rodri yes we should challenge but we may not see the same player again. Also to win the league I think we probably need a few quality additions to beef up the bench as much as the first 11. I don't honestly think Pep thought he would win but maybe thought he could get away with it. There is a lot of games in the next month and rotation obviously required but why that had to take such a drastic form only he knows the answer to that one.
 
Cellarite said:
The point I'm making is that where a person travelled from is (mostly) their own choice and when Pep picks a team, he quite rightly isn't considering Mike who lives in Southampton.
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He should be, because he’s in the entertainment business and the club’s customers tend to be more entertained when the team wins, wherever they are from.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Believe it or not, you are not the King of What Determines What Makes Fans Happy Or Upset. How far away is too far away to be a fan then? A mile? Five? Ten? All the fans whose parents raised them City fans — should they have switched to fucking Coventry City when their parents moved them there when they were two and a half?

Yours is a fundamentally stupid, stupid, stupid take.
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Have I hit a nerve? At no point have I said that people shouldn't support a team from somewhere else, nor have I said that Mancunians shouldn't move away from Manchester. I did it myself 26 years ago. The only point I've made is that when discussing the match, the team picked or the result, where a person travelled from is fuck all to do with anything. If you don't like the risk of travelling to see a weaker team named or a defeat, don't bother going. Is that ok with you, you, you?
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
He should be, because he’s in the entertainment business and the club’s customers tend to be more entertained when the team wins, wherever they are from.
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The entertainment business? This isn't that ridiculous wrestling you watch over there. It's a sport. Do you believe that the best team should be picked every single week and that Haaland should be playing 90 minutes every week so that the crowd are entertained? If not, then your point is stupid, stupid, stupid.
 
Cellarite said:
I have complete understanding of being pissed off about the match. I set off at 14:20 and got home at 00:15. I was up for work at 6:50 this morning. I know it takes a lot and credit anyone who goes to watch City whether its a 5 minute walk or a five hour round journey. The point I'm making is that where a person travelled from is (mostly) their own choice and when Pep picks a team, he quite rightly isn't considering Mike who lives in Southampton. I think you're missing the point I've made.

I'm having a good day thanks. I've secured a radiator for my lad's room at a decent price, am having chicken and chorizo for tea and then going to see the other half on the promise of an early night. I'm not slagging anyone off, I don't want to keep my thoughts to myself - just like you clearly don't - and I'm sorry for your despair. Try not to let my posts affect your own day.
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Its the old saying isn't it, if you can't say something nice then its best not to say anything. Your posts don't affect my day its just the older i get i wish people would be a bit kinder. Your flippant dismissal of Peter the badge was a perfect example. I remember travelling with Pete in the late eighties when i was living in Dover as we all travelled together with the London supporters club on group travel as it was cheaper for us.
It's always anybody's choice in.life what they do with their free time as it was mine when i did a 600 mile round trip to Maine Road for home games in the eighties and we usually got beat as well back then. Did i think me travelling that far made defeat harder to take than somebody who lived in Moss Side? Of course not, but i would understand somebody that did think that way. If id travelled all that way and seen we unexpectedly played the reserves and got beat then yes i would have been a bit nore peeved id gone to all that effort to be effectively shafted.
 
paulchapo said:
Fucking hell are you having a bad day or something? What's with the slagging off fellow blues' who are rightly pissed off about last night? If I'd got off my arse and walked from a flat by the side of Mary D's ,to quote yourself and paid good money to watch that shit show in the freezing cold, i'd be pissed off and i would only have had to walk ten minutes to be home, with no additional travel or hotel costs. If I'd paid for travel and a hotel on top, expecting to see the majority of the first team in a champions league game we had to win, then seeing the reserves were playing and we lost as a result I'd be livid. A bit more understanding of that fact wouldn't go amiss, or just keep your thoughts to yourself if you think they're making a fuss about nothing. I sometimes despair of people on here.
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I’ve been out to a dozen City matches and a few aways over twenty years, plus plenty of matches here in the States when City comes. I was in Houston v Club America for EH’s first match with the team. We HOPED to see him play; we figured he probably wouldn’t, and he didn’t, and of course many of the reserves played a substantial portion. But that’s what we expect from a summer tour. We were just happy to see the boys (and win). If I visited for a Carabao Cup match vs. Mansfield Town I’d expect the second team. I absolutely would NOT for a CL match, EVER, unless we were through to the top 8 already.
 
Cellarite said:
The entertainment business? This isn't that ridiculous wrestling you watch over there. It's a sport. Do you believe that the best team should be picked every single week and that Haaland should be playing 90 minutes every week so that the crowd are entertained? If not, then your point is stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Sports are (sport is) entertainment.

I expect the team to set up to and want to win every week during the regular season save for those rare matches that have no bearing on progression toward trophies.

Everyone here agrees with me, some random Yank, instead of you, which should embarrass you.
 
paulchapo said:
Its the old saying isn't it, if you can't say something nice then its best not to say anything. Your posts don't affect my day its just the older i get i wish people would be a bit kinder. Your flippant dismissal of Peter the badge was a perfect example. I remember travelling with Pete in the late eighties when i was living in Dover as we all travelled together with the London supporters club on group travel as it was cheaper for us.
It's always anybody's choice in.life what they do with their free time as it was mine when i did a 600 mile round trip to Maine Road for home games in the eighties and we usually got beat as well back then. Did i think me travelling that far made defeat harder to take than somebody who lived in Moss Side? Of course not, but i would understand somebody that did think that way. If id travelled all that way and seen we unexpectedly played the reserves and got beat then yes i would have been a bit nore peeved id gone to all that effort to be effectively shafted.
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Your coming from this from the same angle. I meant no disrespect to Pete the Badge - a lovely man from my experience, I just didn't get the point ancoats was making in simply telling me he lives in London.

I simply posted that people being more pissed off about last night because of their own travel costs makes no sense to me. I've repeatedly stated that I did a 5 hour round trip last night and was pissed off with the result and the starting eleven. But I didn't piss and moan back up the M62 about my circumstances because I chose to go last night because I'm a City fan, not because I expect us to win every game.
 
Cellarite said:
A number of posters in this thread feeling sorry for themselves because they travelled or paid money for hotels and trains. The simple solution is to not support a team who play in a different city or if you're from Manchester, don't move away. They deserve no more credit for attending last night than the lad who can see Mary D's from his kitchen window.
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Don't be ridiculous.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Sports are (sport is) entertainment.

I expect the team to set up to and want to win every week during the regular season save for those rare matches that have no bearing on progression toward trophies.

Everyone here agrees with me, some random Yank, instead of you, which should embarrass you.
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You haven't answered the question because you know you've lost the point. You've set a team should be set up to "entertain". The kids in the Family Stand would want to see Haaland for the full match. Should he be kept on at all times in the name of entertainment?

I'm not embarrassed at all, my Yankee friend. I'm sorry if I hit a nerve with you. You feel free to tell me what I can and can't post on my local team's forum.
 
Cellarite said:
I have complete understanding of being pissed off about the match. I set off at 14:20 and got home at 00:15. I was up for work at 6:50 this morning. I know it takes a lot and credit anyone who goes to watch City whether its a 5 minute walk or a five hour round journey. The point I'm making is that where a person travelled from is (mostly) their own choice and when Pep picks a team, he quite rightly isn't considering Mike who lives in Southampton. I think you're missing the point I've made.

I'm having a good day thanks. I've secured a radiator for my lad's room at a decent price, am having chicken and chorizo for tea and then going to see the other half on the promise of an early night. I'm not slagging anyone off, I don't want to keep my thoughts to myself - just like you clearly don't - and I'm sorry for your despair. Try not to let my posts affect your own day.
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For the record I don't live in Southampton...
 
Father Paul said:
No. It is something akin to the side which brought us out of the wilderness to win the FA Cup. Which of course formed the basis of a league winning team. Lets hope for something similar over the next couple of years.
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FWIW I was surprised myself at the starting line up but thought, maybe naively, we'd do alright. It wasn't all bad but it clearly backfired, the result being the most obvious.
 
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