Oscar Bobb

oldius said:
I will be disappointed if he goes because I believe he has the potential to be a world-class player. Nevertheless, at this moment, he is not going to replace Erling, Cherki, Foden, or Doku, and probably not Savinho either, and we have McAidoo, Heskey, and the Samba boys coming up on the rails - all technical and very physical - and he needs game time to bring out that potential. A loan or a sale with a buy-back seems fair to him, and fair to the club.
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Don’t think he will ever be world class mate, he has top class moments but Nusa even is better than Oscar. Sell with a buyback back is the best but needs to benefit us with where he is going. Palace for Wharton or Forest for Anderson deals would be nice!
 
samuelyeboah said:
his biggest weakness is decision making. He very rarely makes the correct decision even if his moves do come off. runs into blind alleys, uses the wrong foot to dribble, wrong angle for a shot, wrong position in the box. He does not play in a way that maximizes his impact.
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I thought you were talking about Savinho. That's his best description.
 
richards30 said:
Don’t think he will ever be world class mate, he has top class moments but Nusa even is better than Oscar. Sell with a buyback back is the best but needs to benefit us with where he is going. Palace for Wharton or Forest for Anderson deals would be nice!
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I disagree, but time and consistent appearances will be the deciding factor.
We are sorted in attack, and in defence with the potential return of Reis and Bah and the emergence of Mfuni.
In my view, we simply need a more physical presence in the midfield to join with Gonzalez. Anderson and Wharton seem the obvious candidates, but I suspect we are being patient with Rodri - no wonder, he is the world's best.
 
richards30 said:
Don’t think he will ever be world class mate, he has top class moments but Nusa even is better than Oscar. Sell with a buyback back is the best but needs to benefit us with where he is going. Palace for Wharton or Forest for Anderson deals would be nice!
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I concur with that.
Even Norways coach has been less than happy with Oscar these last months before injury.
 
A real shame how his progress seems to have stalled since the injury; he was flying in America on that tour. But a move (with a buy back) is probably in his best interest at this stage. Even if we don't get Semenyo, it's hard to see where he gets back in the team now.
 
Stoned Rose said:
This season’s Macatee. Simply hasn’t done enough when the chance presented itself. Compare and contrast with O’Reilly.
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He’s just come back from a major injury and it’s been what half a season? Where he’s barely started.

If we judged all of our players that harshly, half the squad would be gone.

Suppose O’reily gets badly injured and is then out of form, do we then sell him?
 
A lot of people forgetting he had a really serious injury, a tib fracture, just when he was seriously threatening the starting line up. At his age and stage of development, a long spell out was a huge setback
Looked this season like he was still struggling a bit. Then injuring his hamstring while taking a shot will only add to the setbacks and frustration
Still huge potential but with a world cup this summer he may well want some more game time when he recovers. Pep is still a huge fan so as long as we protect ourselves with a straight loan or a sale with a buyback etc he may well be the one to make way
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
He’s just come back from a major injury and it’s been what half a season? Where he’s barely started.

If we judged all of our players that harshly, half the squad would be gone.

Suppose O’reily gets badly injured and is then out of form, do we then sell him?
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I think he had ankle ligament damage too.
We are often VERY premature in our judgement about players, and many here have to row back from previous declarations of players not being good enough.
In Bobb, we are talking about a two-time Academy POTY, who looked like a real prospect before injury, and who is said by players, consistently, to be the player in training who has surprised them with his ability level. There is nothing wrong with a player going elsewhere, temporarily, to get up to speed by playing games that we cannot offer if we are competing for the league.
 
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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
He’s just come back from a major injury and it’s been what half a season? Where he’s barely started.

If we judged all of our players that harshly, half the squad would be gone.

Suppose O’reily gets badly injured and is then out of form, do we then sell him?
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This is Manchester City mate. An elite club at the top of the tree striving for trophies. We haven’t got time for fucking about. You either come in and make an impact and/or show serious potential to do so, or we get someone else who will.

That’s not harsh, it’s reality.

Bobb hasn’t shown enough. Imo he’s very similar to how Macatee faired last season. Bags and bags of ability but doesn’t back himself to take his opportunity by the scruff of the neck. Doesn’t have that eye of the tiger. Not quite “ready” mentally.

Needs a loan.
 
He's not at the level we need at the moment. We are an elite team now and he's not elite yet. He may be in the future but unfortunately we can't wait around for every player to become good enough. He's not an 18 year old kid. He may become amazing and we may regret letting him go, but that's a chance we take with every player going out and coming in. Bobb needs to be playing more to develop too, so it's not really fair to keep him if we have better players.

Semenyo is an upgrade, if we get him he makes our team better. Swapping them is a no brainer IMO.
 
5 Hit Gibbon said:
He's not at the level we need at the moment. We are an elite team now and he's not elite yet. He may be in the future but unfortunately we can't wait around for every player to become good enough. He's not an 18 year old kid. He may become amazing and we may regret letting him go, but that's a chance we take with every player going out and coming in. Bobb needs to be playing more to develop too, so it's not really fair to keep him if we have better players.

Semenyo is an upgrade, if we get him he makes our team better. Swapping them is a no brainer IMO.
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Semenyo is definitely an upgrade and I think most people understand why the club want to do it to compete on all fronts.

But Semenyo is also a huge upgrade on Savinho. For me Bobb is such a better player than him technically and Savio has only really impressed recently on fast breaks whereas Bobb was struggling to break down low block teams.

He’s 22 and needs more football but I will always say he’s more of a City player than Savio and would be amazed if in 10 years time Savio has a better career.

Bobb was clearly rated really highly by the club. The reluctance to sell Savio for me is more hoping a CFG transfer becomes a success especially as there was a bid of 70m for him - madness that was never accepted.
 
It's a real shame, an undoubted talent is in there somewhere but can't quite get the run of games he needs to nurture it. He probably has the world cup in his mind too, because of that I'd prefer if he could get a good loan. I have visions of him being WC 2026's version of Andrey Arshavin!
 
bell_mcfc said:
Semenyo is definitely an upgrade and I think most people understand why the club want to do it to compete on all fronts.

But Semenyo is also a huge upgrade on Savinho. For me Bobb is such a better player than him technically and Savio has only really impressed recently on fast breaks whereas Bobb was struggling to break down low block teams.

He’s 22 and needs more football but I will always say he’s more of a City player than Savio and would be amazed if in 10 years time Savio has a better career.

Bobb was clearly rated really highly by the club. The reluctance to sell Savio for me is more hoping a CFG transfer becomes a success especially as there was a bid of 70m for him - madness that was never accepted.
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That's because we didn't get a bid of £70m for Savinho.
 
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