Bodo/Glimt (A) | CL | Post Match Thread

We will be in deep shit if these performances continue.

Thankfully we’re still in with a shout for a lot but that can change very quickly, especially if this keeps going.

The issue I have is I can’t really see where or how it’s going to get better
So getting some injured players back and being able to rest Haaland doesnt give you hope? Plus bedding in Guehi and Semenyo. Wow, I feel sorry for you, you sound really down. The only disaster has been Josko's injury. Plenty to look forward too for me personally.
 
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Having slept on it, I don't think last night was the total catastrophe it seemed to be while watching it live. Both teams were pretty even in terms of big chances created (1.6xG vs 1.2xG, 4 big chances each), Bodo just put theirs in and we didn't. I also saw people saying "City were saved by the offside flag" on a couple of occasions, but ultimately the flag went up on those occasions because the defence had done its job and held the line.

We lost the game in two periods of 90 seconds - the first one was defined by two big defensive mistakes from Alleyne and the second one was defined by two big defensive mistakes from Rodri. At 0-0 we were absolutely fine. Stroking it around, probing, playing well, finding little spaces to create chances. Ait-Nouri, Cherki, Foden, Reijnders, and O'Reilly all looked busy. Alleyne missed a free header from five yards but the goal was coming. Then boom, two mistakes in 90 seconds from a kid and we're 2-0 down. Alright, it happens, pick yourselves up, get to half-time.

At the end of the first half and start of the second half we were dominating the ball and looking okay, but a mistake from Rodri to give the ball away leads to a world class solo goal and suddenly it's 3-0, maybe game over. Cherki slams one in straight away and you think "Okay, maybe". Bodo were tiring a little and we were having more of the ball, so you start to think we could pin them back. But then Rodri gets sent off and any chance of a comeback is extinguished. And that's the game. We actually controlled it better and created more chances with 10 men than 11, suggesting Bodo would have folded if we'd had everyone on the pitch.

I think last night was just made up of several 50/50 moments just going against us. Alleyne's header going wide, Alleyne miscontrolling the ball on the halfway line, Haaland's shot going wide, the ref not giving the penalty for the foul on Cherki, Rodri giving it away cheaply, O'Reilly's header at the end falling softly into the keeper's hands. The high line didn't help and I'm frustrated that Pep persists with it even after showing against Liverpool, Bournemouth, and Newcastle recently that playing slightly deeper can be just as successful, but I don't think he coached a disasterclass. He coached a 2-1 win, or even a 2-2 draw, but the players let him down in those 50/50 moments.

There's no way last night happens if even two out of Nunes, Gonzalez, Dias, Gvardiol, and Bernardo are out there. Ait-Nouri looked alright early on but playing a left wing-back at right-back eventually revealed itself to be a bad decision. Alleyne looked okay against Exeter and great against Newcastle but based on a bigger sample size it's clear to see why he was at Watford a month ago - thank god for Guehi. Lewis and Rodri were both very weak and big questions need to be asked about them both. Haaland and Foden need time out of the side as well - it doesn't matter if it's part of a planned period of rest or just because they're both woefully out of form, get them out.

But the thing is, we literally had no alternatives last night. Gvardiol, Kovacic, Stones, Dias, Bobb, Gonzalez, Savinho, and Nunes are all out. Semenyo and Guehi were ineligible. Bernardo was suspended. Ake, Doku, and Rodri are still recovering from injuries. Haaland is clearly playing through an injury. Ait-Nouri and Marmoush are only just back from Afcon. The only players we had over the age of 21 last night who were fit and ready (and not carrying something) are Donnarumma, Foden, Cherki, and Reijnders. That's it. Four senior players without baggage.

We won't catch Arsenal, but we were never going to catch Arsenal. I've said since the summer, the title is theirs. They're a few years into their cycle and are hitting the crest of a wave at the right time. Liverpool are still in the post-Klopp hangover, Villa won't be up for the challenge, and City are rebuilding. Well done to Arteta for getting it right at last. For City, this year was just about improving on last year (which we already have), getting the good vibes back, and trying to put something in place that we can build from. Those building blocks are only just being put into place, so we're going to have to suck up the bad days until those blocks are set.

I said last season that 24-25 reminded me of 15-16 under Pellegrini. Old players, a soft centre, a fragile mentality, the old spine (Hart, Kompany injured, Yaya old, Silva injured, Aguero) struggling a bit with injuries and age. New ideas and new blood were needed. It took us three transfer windows (summer 2016, January 2017, summer 2017) to sort that out. This season was always going to resemble the 16-17 season, when all the new ideas and new blood needed time to bed in and become habitual for all the faces we had coming in through the door. I'm willing to give Pep another 12 months, just to see what the team looks like once it's steady and stable and isn't changing every few weeks.

This season will probably click in March, like 16-17 did. We'll be too far away from Arsenal to catch them in the league but we'll likely finish 2nd on about 78-79 points. That's fine by me. We'll probably have reached yet another cup final (providing we don't lose 2-0 or more to Newcastle) and we'll hopefully still be in the FA Cup by then. With that in mind, this season still has the potential to be a great one. I don't know if people got a bit giddy about us being in a title race (we weren't) and are now disappointed, but all I wanted out of this season was clear improvement on last season and we have that. For that reason, I'm not too sad about the current state of affairs.

It's worth remembering right now that we finished 2025 top of the PL annual table (based on points per game, 2.16). We don't get a trophy for that, of course, but we should take a lot of heart from it. Despite the difficulties of last season and the injuries of this season, we still managed to be the best team in the country over a 12 month period. For a club on the way back to the top, that's something to hold onto and build from. We'll have weeks like this one again soon, it's just about riding the wave until we're back at the top - whether that's under Pep or somebody else. I'm kinda thinking it'll be Pep until 2027 and then Enrique. But let's see.
Good post yb. Although, I can’t see where we created anywhere near as many good chances as they did. I remember Haaland’s two chances he should have done much better with and O’Reilly’s header, he should have scored with. They had three or four chances as well as the three they scored with. Indeed, if Haaland would have scored just before half time, it would have made a big difference going in at the break. You’re correct when you say the high line didn’t help us but it hasn’t helped us for so long now so why are we continuing in using it? We are forever being caught out at the back with next to no defensive midfield to help out, we’re on a hiding to nothing.
 
Just forced myself to rewatch the highlights and found two consolations

1/ Despite all the efforts of some posters to argue otherwise, we can't blame Savinho

2/ The comical genius of City's goal.

Despite two left footers on the right wing, we outwit the opposition with a decent and dangerous right footed cross that falls into the path of Foden, who shanks horribly into the patch of an unsuspecting defender
The ball then finds it's way to O'Reilly who despite it being technically easier to simply move to his right and shoot, prefers to indulge in a weird little dribble where he touches the ball six times but the ball only moves about two circumferences
Eventually the ball rebounds to yet another left footed player, but Cherki confounds the odds by scoring with his right
 
From Kipling. For Pep and people in general.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
 
I think everyone thought we would win that game

interestingly, we were worse odds (~1.42) to win at Bodo than we are for some Prem games.

The market certainly took into account the odd/testing away location and the unavailable players.
 
The biggest concern for me was the lack of reaction after the Derby and the fact that the performance was an exact carbon copy. No legs in the middle, defence all at sea, a distinct lack of creativity and the most worrying of all, the fact that marginal offside decisions prevented us from taking two real hammerings by average teams. I'm at a loss to explain why, but something clearly isn't right at the moment within the camp.
If last night was a ‘reaction’ performance after the disastrous derby we have some serious problems. It was a carbon copy. Saturday could be pivotal
 
The header was a good chance. The haaland chances are meh. It wasn't a sitter by any stretch, the defender is coming over to block any attempt at the right side of the goal, so he has to go near post and he misses. Thats not a sitter.

Anyway, show me some still clips of them ripping us to shreds please! Actually don't - it's painful enough in my minds eye!
Haaland should be putting both of those chances away though, that's the level we need
 
interestingly, we were worse odds (~1.42) to win at Bodo than we are for some Prem games.

The market certainly took into account the odd/testing away location and the unavailable players.
It isn't that odd.

Teams likes palace have visited us recent years and been 14/1 when we were stronger, Norwich away when we had our main centre backs out in 2019/20 was 22/1.

Last night was 11/2 Bod and 5/1 the draw.

At the weekend it was 5/2 muntd before the teams came out.

Both looked like good value based on City's form outside the domestic cups this year. It has a bit of a 1987/88 feel to it this season.
 
The character of the team has got to be questioned…..I’m pretty sure we have failed to win one match from a losing position this season.

Not helped at times by Pep not changing tactics.
Only Swansea and Real Madrid but not in the premier league where we have dropped 9 points from winning positions.

We don't press hard enough in the opposition half to put pressure on them to reverting to just hacking the ball forward or get the ball out of play.

These are things most sides are capable of to some degree namely work rate and effort.

This was a hallmark of Peps teams that won titles meaning we had many games where the opposition had far fewer shots on target and decent chances at that than we did.

Haaland called our effort embarrassing and so he should be and now we wait for his response to see if the penny drops that defense in the opposition box starts with him.

I remember the days when Carlos Tevez would harass and scrap to regain possession when he was disposed of the ball for 95 minutes which is partly why I admired him so much on the pitch a bulldog.

Haaland and Foden should look at a few clips just to understand why you need a few strings to your bow as a striker to

make it much harder for the opposition to score.
 
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From Kipling. For Pep and people in general.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
Jesus, i thought things were bad - but i didn't think we were at the "you'll be a man my son" poem stage.
 
We lost a couple games and drew a couple we maybe should have won.

The sun will still rise, city will still have pep in charge and the rags will be in therapy for the 13 years we ripped out their dna and shoved it up their arse.

Overall being champions x 4 and treble winners is enough to keep X reports at bay.

Let it out, breathe and let’s see how it can be fixed.

Onto Wolves we go.

Come on City & Pep let’s go again.
 
So getting some injured players back and being able to rest Haaland doesnt give you hope? Plus bedding in Guehi and Semenyo. Wow, I feel sorry for you, you sound really down. The only disaster has been Josko's injury. Plenty to look forward too for me personally.
I bow to your superior attitude and lament my failure.
 
Thats the main concern. We need to stop the rot and quick or by March the season will look far worse than the one just passed. I think we will be more solid against Wolves given the reinforcements but the last CL match could be another disaster.

The Galatasary match is far more important than the Wolves match imo. No matter what happens against Wolves, we'll be going into the Gala match without Semenyo and Guehi, invariably more fatigued players, and potentially more injuries.

Only Spurs (desperate for a home win), Newcastle (desperate for Wembley and dirty bastards), and Liverpool (Pep's nemesis) to follow...

An important period. We may need to 'dig out' a few deeper performances. This 'high line' nonsense should be put away for a few weeks.
 
Trying to imagine what Arsenal's team would have looked like if they'd played the Bodo game last night in our situation.

Gvardiol, Kovacic, Stones, Dias, Bobb, Gonzalez, Savinho, and Nunes are all injured for City - that's the equivalent of them losing Gabriel, Norgaard, Mosquera, Saliba, Nwaneri, Zubimendi, Madueke, and Timber. Bernardo was suspended, so that's the equivalent of someone like Merino being suspended for them. Guehi and Semenyo aren't eligible, so that's the equivalent of them losing Hincapie and Martinelli. Ake, Doku, and Rodri are still recovering from injuries, so that's Calafiori, Eze, and Rice not being fully fit. That would leave them with:

Raya
Calafiori, Salmon, Hincapie, Lewis-Skelly
Saka, Rice (ACL), Odegaard, Trossard
Jesus, Gyokeres

That's about the best I can come up with.
 
It isn't that odd.

Teams likes palace have visited us recent years and been 14/1 when we were stronger, Norwich away when we had our main centre backs out in 2019/20 was 22/1.

Last night was 11/2 Bod and 5/1 the draw.

At the weekend it was 5/2 muntd before the teams came out.

Both looked like good value based on City's form outside the domestic cups this year. It has a bit of a 1987/88 feel to it this season.
i meant when we're away, but i take your point.
 

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