The Labour Government

Blackley_Blue said:
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Sky News reckon that's Burnham's ticket to a leadership challenge.
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Why would he go back to Westminster to challenge Starmer? Even if he succeeded he would get his arse kicked at the next General Election.

He has a cushy number where he is now, if he doesn't want to keep the job then I am available.
 
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The Burnham situation is so typical of today's Labour party.

Starmer et al. are so insecure and threatened by the prospect of him being an MP based on his better favourability that they go way too fucking hard attacking him, and then he gets defensive and thinks fuck them and doesn't shut it down - I don't blame him either.

Meanwhile the coordinated attack on a popular labour politician (The only Labour politician polling higher than Farage) and NEC saying they'll not select him doesn't sit well with anyone who's not a Starmer loyalist in the party, causing even more division.
 
domalino said:
The Burnham situation is so typical of today's Labour party.

Starmer et al. are so insecure and threatened by the prospect of him being an MP based on his better favourability that they go way too fucking hard attacking him, and then he gets defensive and thinks fuck them and doesn't shut it down - I don't blame him either.

Meanwhile the coordinated attack on a popular labour politician (The only Labour politician polling higher than Farage) and NEC saying they'll not select him doesn't sit well with anyone who's not a Starmer loyalist in the party, causing even more division.
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Beat me too it.

Novara reporting Starmer pressuring NEC to block his selection. If he wants of course.
 
Burnham reported in the evening news saying if he moved on he would like to see someone like Gary Neville become Mayor. FFS let’s give a property developer the keys to the estate. And, should there be an election where he stood against anybody I suspect anybody would prevail.
 
Does Burnham want to serve the country or the country to serve him. The guy seems just like most of the politicians we get nowadays - in it for themselves. Whilst our oligarch run media kill any notion of any politicians that want to help the people, fuck the people.
 
Gray said:
Come on Starmer you wishy washy bugger, get on the TV/media and give Trump both barrels.

Or are you a coward?
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Quiet diplomacy.

He's going to China to talk trade deals that will benefit us instead of Trump.

The 'special relationship' is over and he's weaning us off US products slowly but surely.
 
This Labour government has effectively become Tory.

If there was an election tomorrow I genuinely have no idea who i'd vote for.

I'd describe my political leaning as very slightly left centre. In a 3 at the back I'm the LCB. Mildly socialist.
 
Does the Employment Rights Act sound like something the Tories would do?

December 2025 (Royal Assent)
• Act becomes law.
• Minimum service level rules for strikes repealed. - This means that as of 18 December 2025, there is
no minimum service before striking.
February 2026
• Dismissal for lawful industrial action becomes automatically unfair - the current 12-week limit for
claiming unfair dismissal if linked to this will be removed.
April 2026
• Paternity & parental leave become day-one rights -review reference in relevant policy or contract of
employment.
• Statutory Sick Pay payable from day one and lower earnings limit removed - review reference in
relevant policy or contract of employment.
• Collective redundancy protective award doubles from 90 to 180 days’ pay - for information purposes.
• Whistleblowing protection extended to sexual harassment disclosures. - Update any relevant
whistleblowing policy.
October 2026
• Fire & rehire will be unfair dismissal in most cases - dismissing someone and rehiring them on
different contractual terms will in most cases now be unfair dismissal, so ensure contracts issued are
tailored and accurate for business needs to avoid this being a requirement / consideration.
• Employers will be liable to prevent harassment, including from customers and third parties unless
“all reasonable steps” have been taken to prevent it - policies regarding harassment will need to be
reviewed to ensure employees have adequate support. For example, effective reporting processes
and procedures.
• Tribunal claim time limits extended from 3 months to 6 months.
2027 (Dates TBC)
• Unfair dismissal qualifying period reduced to 6 months - this was previously two years and has just
been included for information purposes until date is confirmed.
• Zero-hours and variable-hours contract protections (guaranteed hours, shift cancellation pay) -
workers on 0-hour contracts will be entitled to guaranteed working hours If they want them and
workers will have the right to be paid if a shift is cancelled, moved to another date or cut short.
• Statutory bereavement leave introduced - review any leave policies or contracts of employment
• Enhanced pregnancy and maternity protections- review any leave policies or references in contracts
of employment
• Mandatory gender pay gap and menopause action plans - Action plans around menopause and
gender pay gaps will become mandatory
 
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Nethermoor said:
This Labour government has effectively become Tory.

If there was an election tomorrow I genuinely have no idea who i'd vote for.

I'd describe my political leaning as very slightly left centre. In a 3 at the back I'm the LCB. Mildly socialist.
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I could tell you all the socialist policies that Labour are enacting, but you probably don’t want to hear them.

I’m no leftie or natural Labour voter, and I can tell you, these ain’t Tory. Just go and look at what Thatcher enacted, then you’ll see Tory.

The problem I see with all this is that the mainline media don’t want to talk about what Labour are doing, they just seek out the negative, or spin the positive as a negative, and that’s all that people get.
 
Vic said:
Does the Employment Rights Act sound like something the Tories would do?

December 2025 (Royal Assent)
• Act becomes law.
• Minimum service level rules for strikes repealed. - This means that as of 18 December 2025, there is
no minimum service before striking.
February 2026
• Dismissal for lawful industrial action becomes automatically unfair - the current 12-week limit for
claiming unfair dismissal if linked to this will be removed.
April 2026
• Paternity & parental leave become day-one rights -review reference in relevant policy or contract of
employment.
• Statutory Sick Pay payable from day one and lower earnings limit removed - review reference in
relevant policy or contract of employment.
• Collective redundancy protective award doubles from 90 to 180 days’ pay - for information purposes.
• Whistleblowing protection extended to sexual harassment disclosures. - Update any relevant
whistleblowing policy.
October 2026
• Fire & rehire will be unfair dismissal in most cases - dismissing someone and rehiring them on
different contractual terms will in most cases now be unfair dismissal, so ensure contracts issued are
tailored and accurate for business needs to avoid this being a requirement / consideration.
• Employers will be liable to prevent harassment, including from passengers and third parties unless
“all reasonable steps” have been taken to prevent it - policies regarding harassment will need to be
reviewed to ensure employees have adequate support. For example, effective reporting processes
and procedures.
• Tribunal claim time limits extended from 3 months to 6 months. - Just for information purposes.
2027 (Dates TBC)
• Unfair dismissal qualifying period reduced to 6 months - this was previously two years and has just
been included for information purposes until date is confirmed.
• Zero-hours and variable-hours contract protections (guaranteed hours, shift cancellation pay) -
workers on 0-hour contracts will be entitled to guaranteed working hours If they want them and
workers will have the right to be paid if a shift is cancelled, moved to another date or cut short.
• Statutory bereavement leave introduced - review any leave policies or contracts of employment
• Enhanced pregnancy and maternity protections- review any leave policies or references in contracts
of employment
• Mandatory gender pay gap and menopause action plans - Action plans around menopause and
gender pay gaps will become mandatory
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It doesn't and I'm very happy they have done this, credit where it's due, just seen Starmer has eventually been very critical of Trump as well.
 
Very good to see Starmer stand up to Trump over those sickening remarks he made about Afghanistan, in addition to the Greenland bollocks.

The appeasement strategy with Trump did make sense for a while - trying to diplomatically straddle the Atlantic has always been Britain's role - but lately the mad orange twat has fully gone off the deep end and we need to pick a side, which is obviously with Europe.

I think more people would actually warm to Kier if he was a bit more forthright and less wishy-washy. He's played it very well this week IMO. This more stern principled side of him is something we need to see a lot more of.
 
Gray said:
Come on Starmer you wishy washy bugger, get on the TV/media and give Trump both barrels.

Or are you a coward?
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He’s done it!

I think after Farage was so pathetically weak, mealy mouthed and apologetic about commenting on it; and with the public backlash today he absolutely had to do it, a political open goal but still takes guts to do it when you know Trump will never apologise and likely retaliate.

 
The Future’s Blue! said:
I could tell you all the socialist policies that Labour are enacting, but you probably don’t want to hear them.

I’m no leftie or natural Labour voter, and I can tell you, these ain’t Tory. Just go and look at what Thatcher enacted, then you’ll see Tory.

The problem I see with all this is that the mainline media don’t want to talk about what Labour are doing, they just seek out the negative, or spin the positive as a negative, and that’s all that people get.
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Sounds like reporting on City.
 



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Starmer has had a really good week. Dealt with Greenland calmly, stood up to Trump first over the troops then over Chagos.

If he (or his supporters) block the only politician in the country with a better favourability rating than Farage because they're scared he's too popular, he'll undo all of that and look incredibly weak.
 
domalino said:
Starmer has had a really good week. Dealt with Greenland calmly, stood up to Trump first over the troops then over Chagos.

If he (or his supporters) block the only politician in the country with a better favourability rating than Farage because they're scared he's too popular, he'll undo all of that and look incredibly weak.
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5pm deadline wasn't it? When will we find out re Burnham, does anyone know?
 
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