Seat Counters 25/26

[Tim of the Oak]

We don't have a waiting list.

We don’t have an official waiting list be we do by the standards of other clubs who are expanding their grounds, who count match day members as their wait list. For example, Leeds.

We will have 4,000 extra season card holders but I recognise your semantics. This is the next big opportunity to increase our core support.

We are going to have some poor mid week crowds for the foreseeable future and that won’t be helped if the Newcastle League game switches to Saturday at 8pm.

I would rather be in 35k crowds where the home fans get behind the team.

 

[bluesmith]

We don’t have an official waiting list be we do by the standards of other clubs who are expanding their grounds, who count match day members as their wait list. For example, Leeds.

We will have 4,000 extra season card holders but I recognise your semantics. This is the next big opportunity to increase our core support.

We are going to have some poor mid week crowds for the foreseeable future and that won’t be helped if the Newcastle League game switches to Saturday at 8pm.

I would rather be in 35k crowds where the home fans get behind the team.

It's not semantics, there isn't a waiting list. If there was you'd be able to join it.

 

[EastMidlandsBlue]

No new season tickets are being issued, they will be releasing 4000 flexi season tickets but it's likely they will be sold based on previous attendance criteria.

Think the flexi thing is a joke, just release proper seasoncards.

Although I certainly don't have an issue with them selling them based on previous attendance criteria. For something where demand is going to vastly outweigh supply, it's only right that the people who've attended the most games get first pick.

 

[bluesmith]

Think the flexi thing is a joke, just release proper seasoncards.

Although I certainly don't have an issue with them selling them based on previous attendance criteria. For something where demand is going to vastly outweigh supply, it's only right that the people who've attended the most games get first pick.

I have no problem with flexi tickets, as long as its the buyers choice not a forced choice as it is now.

 

[percypawpaw]

The club need a 12th man, Pep needs a 12th man, the team need a 12th man, the 12th man is us, but it comes at a cost to the club but what a signing.

City need to listen to the fans, reduce prices etc, and get the 12th man.

 

[pride in battle]

You don’t think anything is City’s fault. You don’t think charging 80% more than Newcastle did from the 1st leg is affecting sales, you don’t think charging a minimum of £53 for league games is affecting attendances. You don’t think the membership cost of £35 is stopping causal fans from going to the odd game and bumping crowds up. You don’t think the restrictions on ticket transfers is making fans have enough. You don’t think doubling the Salford ticket price is affecting interest.

Is there anything City do you’ll criticise?

I honestly think you work for the club.

All clubs do it, not just City, it doesn't make it right but that's the reality of it, fans from all clubs should back reduced ticket prices but they won't, we also have too many games, apathy is also a factor, as are people's finances, too cheap and fans will buy a ticket & not turn up ie Exeter
It's just not the ONE issue, agree ?

 

[There is a Light]

The club need a 12th man, Pep needs a 12th man, the team need a 12th man, the 12th man is us, but it comes at a cost to the club but what a signing.

City need to listen to the fans, reduce prices etc, and get the 12th man.

Erm excuse me, we call it the 12th person these days.

 

[Corky]

We don’t have an official waiting list be we do by the standards of other clubs who are expanding their grounds, who count match day members as their wait list. For example, Leeds.

We will have 4,000 extra season card holders but I recognise your semantics. This is the next big opportunity to increase our core support.

We are going to have some poor mid week crowds for the foreseeable future and that won’t be helped if the Newcastle League game switches to Saturday at 8pm.

I would rather be in 35k crowds where the home fans get behind the team.

Leed have a specific season ticket waiting list.

It is a one-off fee to join, it is now £11, and it is then Valid until 2100 AD.

You get your ST in order of joining. They have close to 30k on it, but as with all waiting lists for luxury products once offered a lot won't go ahead. Especially at £10 or £11 which they paid to join the list.

 

[Gingers Dad]

Well thats a slightly different topic. Theres an argument £20 is too cheap then. The club just never seems to get it 100% right either way.

Can you really blame the club for selling tickets at £20 for a first team match?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Leed have a specific season ticket waiting list.

It is a one-off fee to join, it is now £11, and it is then Valid until 2100 AD.

You get your ST in order of joining. They have close to 30k on it, but as with all waiting lists for luxury products once offered a lot won't go ahead. Especially at £10 or £11 which they paid to join the list.

Their so called waiting list includes their match day members so they don’t need another 30k capacity. Half of them already see games on a regular basis.

Adult memberships have been £50 and £75. If they’ve started charging another £10 or £11 then City’s Directors are probably aware of that and think our fans are getting a good deal with our match day memberships. They aren’t that helpful to us atm with all the empties for midweek games.

Google Leeds season card waiting list and you get this.

2025/26 Memberships available now! - Leeds United

Grab your membership today.

www.leedsunited.com

 

[Gingers Dad]

So essentially we've got some supporters not attending the Newcastle game because it's too expensive, whilst some cup scheme members didn't attend the Exeter game because it was too cheap and they could afford to take the hit.

Takes me back to my working days when I used to deal with demographics and price elasticity on a daily basis.

Most of this thread is about apathy. Absolutely nothing the club can do about it

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Most of this thread is about apathy. Absolutely nothing the club can do about it

Good point mate. It’s also about lapsed fans being bigger Blues than fans who turn up week in, week out.

 

[Corky]

Their so called waiting list includes their match day members so they don’t need another 30k capacity. Half of them already see games on a regular basis.

Adult memberships have been £50 and £75. If they’ve started charging another £10 or £11 then City’s Directors are probably aware of that and think our fans are getting a good deal with our match day memberships. They aren’t that helpful to us atm with all the empties for midweek games.

Google Leeds season card waiting list and you get this.

2025/26 Memberships available now! - Leeds United

Grab your membership today.

www.leedsunited.com

The waiting list started in 2020 at £10.

It is now £11.

https://tickets.leedsunited.com/en-GB/memberships/season%20ticket%20waiting%20list

That is for the waiting list only and last 74 years, we don't have anything like that.

Valid until: 31/12/2100

When we had a waiting list it was £50 and you got it back then SSL3 opened if you couldn't get the price of seat you wanted.

 

[Franny 1234]

They had a strategy. But that strategy was to milk fans dry (not unlike other clubs), and that has pissed a lot of people off. Everything is hard work now even getting a ticket. Everything is expensive even if you can jump thru all the hoops put in the way. Cant transfer tickets with ease, so that can only be a negative when it comes to bums on seats. Sitting together with family, kids or friends is nigh on impossible, even with a brand new stand with the opportunity that gave us. How is any of that in the long term good of the club?

Am convinced like most businesses they only live in the short term
To make themselves look good and hit there individual bonus targets.
Were no longer fans in the club's eyes were customers. That's the main reason why where treated poorly. CTID

 

[jockblue]

Alti trams that don't go to the Etihad on match days but do go after 7pm on non match days

I have no problem with flexi tickets, as long as its the buyers choice not a forced choice as it is now.

Thing is the flexi season ticket should be a great thing for both fans and club. You don’t have to pay up front for matches that get moved around so you suddenly can’t go, you manage your cash flow according to matches and affordability, the club can easily know which tickets are being used and more importantly be able to sell those that aren’t, and in theory it’s a dead simple way of confirming your attendance and paying.

But for some reason, the club bunged a £150 charge on it, since dropped a bit and only waved if you go to every game.

In another world, we’d all have flexi tickets, they’d only charge us 1/19 for every game when we confirmed our attendance and no fee, and if not the club sell the seat. What’s not to like?

It allows families to sit together and, if it’s a night game that kids can’t go to, the club sell the seat on.

The club need to turn the dial away from stopping touting by restricting normal fans behaviour, allow a bit of flexibility like we have had for so many years to offer our ticket to others, and clamp down on those that abuse that right.

Similarly some of the fanbase need to realise that some things that inconvenience fans are not a disaster - moving a few hundred folk from the family stand to a few rows away isn’t a disaster, but it’s been handled badly and there’s been a huge over-reaction from some over this. Easy to have picked them up and dropped them into the first few rows of the new stand next to the same people - maybe that’s what’s on offer…

But I detract from the point, long and short is the flexi ticket isn’t a bad idea if they removed the upfront cost. I’d like to think those at the club and those discussing with them see sense.

 

[Carlos- the- jackal]

Most of this thread is about apathy. Absolutely nothing the club can do about it

I'd agree with you that it's apathy but i can't be bothered!

 

[Ban-jani]

All clubs do it, not just City, it doesn't make it right but that's the reality of it, fans from all clubs should back reduced ticket prices but they won't, we also have too many games, apathy is also a factor, as are people's finances, too cheap and fans will buy a ticket & not turn up ie Exeter
It's just not the ONE issue, agree ?

Most top clubs do it but not every club does. I can go to West Ham’s next home game as a non member. I also don’t agree with the view that “oh well they won’t change it now” is a position to take. We at least got somewhere with protests last season. The point is that changing these things will make a difference.

The club will HAVE to change it if they want anything close to a full house with the expansion. We’re a mile away from filling our place for the league cup semi final now. Apathy is a big factor too, you’re right there, but people are more apathetic when they struggle to afford it.

Exeter was a very good crowd, much better than Wednesday night, obviously we have more willing to go to weekend games but selling out at £10 for adults and £1 for kids would have seen 50,000 there even with a few no shows.

 

[pride in battle]

Most top clubs do it but not every club does. I can go to West Ham’s next home game as a non member. I also don’t agree with the view that “oh well they won’t change it now” is a position to take. We at least got somewhere with protests last season. The point is that changing these things will make a difference.

The club will HAVE to change it if they want anything close to a full house with the expansion. We’re a mile away from filling our place for the league cup semi final now. Apathy is a big factor too, you’re right there, but people are more apathetic when they struggle to afford it.

Exeter was a very good crowd, much better than Wednesday night, obviously we have more willing to go to weekend games but selling out at £10 for adults and £1 for kids would have seen 50,000 there even with a few no shows.

You are never getting a champions league game for £10 & a £1 for kids, come on ffs

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I wonder how many people on this thread change their mind after reading the reply from somebody who completely disagrees with their original point?

I suspect that it's not as many as the number of people who just ignore the reply, and make the same point a couple of pages later

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I wonder how many people on this thread change their mind after reading the reply from somebody who completely disagrees with their original point?

I suspect that it's not as many as the number of people who just ignore the reply, and make the same point a couple of pages later

It’s the curse of the modern world. People spitting opinions.

BTW Have you changed your view that you insisted was the right one??