VAR Discussion Thread

I now feel so sorry that I clearly haven't fully appreciated your wonderfully crafted contribution to the forum.

Thank you, and I look forward to more in-depth posts from you.
I would like to see football returned to normal don't you get it? I've seen what video replay has done to American sports, that was bad enough. But I can put that out of my mind and just pay no attention to the Americans. But after VAR there's no ignoring it. There's no Yank boogeyman to blame this one. I care about the future of Football and I would like to see VAR removed and for normal football standards to return. That's all I'm about. This is not some kind of a joke. Football is in crisis right now with VAR and I am trying to help find a remedy to this problem.
 
Which yanks would those be? Last time I checked Football is run and controlled by non-American entities. While there are certainly undesirable elements of American sports that have been so rudely interjected into Football, none of it has been sold to the public or force fed by Americans. VAR is a product of the current FIFA President. It was he and his people who designed it, who decided that an American style instant replay system, which is more like NCAA (NFL Jr) than NFL's challenge system, but the announcements now mirror NFL style referee announcements. And Football is looking more and more like NFL or NCAA Football and that is a huge problem that I agree with you about.

What is is troubling about all this is that your reaction is perfectly normal in that, you don't like seeing Football "Americanized" and VAR gives that impression. But it's so very important to keep in mind that it isn't actual Yanks who have done this to Football. In fact Yanks are very much on the sidelines when it comes to Football rules and such. How it works typically is that FIFA sets the rules and the Premier League (historically, not so much since VAR) created the standard in which the American leagues (and other world leagues) adopt because Premier League is considered the most prestigious league in the world. This also applies to La Liga, Serie A and other European leagues as opposed to the American leagues who historically go along with whatever is happening in England Football or FIFA.

In America, Football (Soccer) are not the standard-makers and therefore can't be blamed for what is going on with Football. And keep in mind, that even NFL / NCAA Video Replay shouldn't even be considered an American standard, in fact, Video Replay even in more conducive American sports, should not be seen as some essential or pillar of how American sports work. In my view, it's quite the opposite. Video replay has destroyed many American sports and turned them into a parody. Video replay (in any sport) is a relatively recent invention and what they did to American sports (with video replay in NFL/NCAA and other sports) has not exactly been well received.

I just think it's important, as someone who's also followed American sports over many decades, I've seen how their sports have changed due to the video replay and it hasn't been good. So while it is important to note that VAR is so uniquely poorly suited for Football, it's not as if the replay in the NFL / NCAA or other American sports is warmly received either. In fact it's video replay has been controversial especially in NCAA Football. The point is to stress at how insidious this whole deal is, from what it's done to Football, to the somewhat separate issue of what video replay generally has done to American sports as well, and how it shouldn't be framed like the Yanks have done this to football. They actually haven't. FIFA and British Football bodies have done this to football.

It sure seems like the Americans have their DNA on VAR though, especially with Trump now buddy buddy with the FIFA Prez and with the WC coming up in America. But that's very separate to how we got here with VAR. The Yanks didn't do this to football. The leadership in our backyard did this to football, by thinking (foolishly) that the largely failed American video replay replay in their sports could or should be adopted to football. I don't even understand how anyone could watch NFL or NCAA Football and think that either of those systems would be good for football. That decision-making might make sense if it was working smoothly in America. It hasn't. Remember the NFL sacked its first try at repaly which was similar to VAR. This can't be stressed enough.

The Yanks had no say in any of this happening to football, or when a similar thing happened to NFL / NCAA. This video replay experiment has been a problem for American sports for a lot longer than it's been a problem for Football, because it's existed longer in those sports than VAR. But lets not frame this as if has been embraced to any degree in America or accepted as good or necessary in any of their sports. Maybe in tennis the challenge system works smooth, but in Football, in American NFL/NCAA, and when you consider that it's introduction has caused all kinds of crazy rule changes that have turned sports into a parody of itself, which I do not stand for. That's why I am taking a stand here. Enough is enough I've seen what's been done to American sports, that was bad enough but what VAR has done to Football is frankly on another level and i won't stand for it. American sports like NFL or NCAA are pretty much a lost cause at this point but Football can still be turned back if the will is there.

The situation is really a strain on many sports and I'm trying to assist and provide some clarity. Your reaction is very appropriate but the people who have pushed video replay, whether it's in American sports, whether it's in Football, is in my view, completely unjustifiable at its core. On either side of the pond, the consensus seems to me that most average people dislike video reviews, whether it's NFL/NCAA or Football.

I know from watching American sports like NFL or NCAA Football that video reviews are very controversial and dysfunctional. It's much worse in NCAA because it works like VAR rather than a challenge system. What they decide to review, when, is completely random and it is absolute corrupt in those sports as well, as it lets them rig it by deciding what to review and what subjective logic to apply on any situation. I would argue it's actually easier to rig an NCAA Football game in America through their replay than VAR, and that's saying a lot, because we know how prevalent this sentiment is in Football with VAR. That just gives you a sense of what we're dealing with on both sides of the pond. Video review in general has negatively changed many aspects of sports in general and how they are played. We are seeing the same kind of thing now with VAR in football and in many ways it's even worse because it's more disruptive in Football. But however you feel about it, it's hugely important to remember that it's not actually the Yanks that did this to Football. And the Yanks (well most of them anyway) didn't do to their own sports either what their ivory tower people did to their sports. The difference between what happens in American sports though vs what happened with Football is in America, it's specific to their country and their sports. What FIFA has done with VAR has taken that approach and done it to the whole world. And giving the impression that it was a Yank idea shifts the blame away from where it needs to be (the FIFA President). Don't get me wrong, there's plenty to blame the Yanks for but we do need to take responsibility for what our own National Football Authorities have allowed. They've embraced VAR they continue to push it and think it's here to stay. That's not the Yanks in control of that. In fact, when it comes to Football, we all know that the Yanks are generally the "Followers". But the standards set in their own sports clearly laid the groundwork for what this numpty did to Football with VAR.

And it's this dynamic that is so powerful and clear to see at this point, to understand that this isn't a which side of the pond are you on issue, this is about the common man, the people seeing their joy reduced by people who shouldn't have the power to do what they've done to a sport that is not theirs. It's ours, as in the fans. And they've robbed us of its essence for a foolish agenda that they are too invested in to reverse course. To solve this VAR problem, I'm fair it'll take more thank blaming the Yanks for this. VAR is not their baby. They only started using after FIFA forced it down their throats like tehy did everybody else. And now we gotta do is turn the head when that spoon comes again. And spit it out because the VAR taste is foul and we need football to return to normal. The delusional ivory tower ones who had crazy ideas about how they might use technology in sports or how they might change sports, thinking that it's what people would want when in reality no one asked for any of this. Not in America, not in Britain, not anywhere. Not like this at least. As someone who has followed American NFL/NCAA over the decades, I have seen how these sports have changed for the worse. It is very related to what video systems did to those sports, and an even worse application of this is seen in Football with VAR which is why it's so painful to see this damage to both American sports and to Football. Both American sports and Football have been attacked by the same agenda, the need to want to play God and control decisions during games, to pause the game when they want. This whole concept is fundamentally flawed and the failures were easily predictable.

And I don't care how well intentioned they are. With the disastrous results that VAR and video review in other sports have caused, there are no participation trophies when it comes to officiating. Whether it's across the pond or in the Premier League, there is no excuse for what has been done to any sports which have altered its nature and with VAR it's been done by people running Football, not across the pond but unfortunately right in our backyard. It might feel good to blame the Yanks for VAR destroying football, but in reality the ones responsible for doing this are in our own backyard. But as I said many times, it wasn't the Premier League's idea. They resisted for a while, they voted against VAR in early 2018. But they eventually gave in to the fraud. It is FIFA and FIFA alone who deserve blame first for sacking Sepp and replacing him with this guy and then letting him force feed VAR around the world like he has.

American influence is all over football in this country!
 
American influence is all over football in this country!
I understand, specifically the NFL style announcements which I abhor. I would just point out that video review as a concept might be seen as an American creation, however in American circles, it was largely seen as an attack on American institutions. As far as what is seen as an American influence (something negative) compounds the problem because it redirects the blame to people who are not in control, and takes it off the people who are. American sports have also been harmed by video review and the kind of rule changes that have gone along with it, whether it's NFL/NCAA or other American sports, whether it's football. It's all wrong and we shouldn't act like Americans "support" VAR or even video replay in their sports. They don't, in much the same way that we don't support VAR in football invading and disrespecting our sports, they don't like seeing what happened to their sports by the same kind of agenda.

America might have Donald Trump and the World Cup this year, but as a Footballing country, they are not involved in any of this. American influence has not, even remotely, caused what happened to football. What happened to football was an agenda put into motion by FIFA and accepted by local and national football authorities as the way forward. By framing it as an American influence, you're suggesting that America is somehow running World Football or making decisions related to VAR or the LOTG. They're not. Football is being run by FIFA and its European partners, not by America. Not by Yanks.
 
Which yanks would those be? Last time I checked Football is run and controlled by non-American entities. While there are certainly undesirable elements of American sports that have been so rudely interjected into Football, none of it has been sold to the public or force fed by Americans. VAR is a product of the current FIFA President. It was he and his people who designed it, who decided that an American style instant replay system, which is more like NCAA (NFL Jr) than NFL's challenge system, but the announcements now mirror NFL style referee announcements. And Football is looking more and more like NFL or NCAA Football and that is a huge problem that I agree with you about.

What is is troubling about all this is that your reaction is perfectly normal in that, you don't like seeing Football "Americanized" and VAR gives that impression. But it's so very important to keep in mind that it isn't actual Yanks who have done this to Football. In fact Yanks are very much on the sidelines when it comes to Football rules and such. How it works typically is that FIFA sets the rules and the Premier League (historically, not so much since VAR) created the standard in which the American leagues (and other world leagues) adopt because Premier League is considered the most prestigious league in the world. This also applies to La Liga, Serie A and other European leagues as opposed to the American leagues who historically go along with whatever is happening in England Football or FIFA.

In America, Football (Soccer) are not the standard-makers and therefore can't be blamed for what is going on with Football. And keep in mind, that even NFL / NCAA Video Replay shouldn't even be considered an American standard, in fact, Video Replay even in more conducive American sports, should not be seen as some essential or pillar of how American sports work. In my view, it's quite the opposite. Video replay has destroyed many American sports and turned them into a parody. Video replay (in any sport) is a relatively recent invention and what they did to American sports (with video replay in NFL/NCAA and other sports) has not exactly been well received.

I just think it's important, as someone who's also followed American sports over many decades, I've seen how their sports have changed due to the video replay and it hasn't been good. So while it is important to note that VAR is so uniquely poorly suited for Football, it's not as if the replay in the NFL / NCAA or other American sports is warmly received either. In fact it's video replay has been controversial especially in NCAA Football. The point is to stress at how insidious this whole deal is, from what it's done to Football, to the somewhat separate issue of what video replay generally has done to American sports as well, and how it shouldn't be framed like the Yanks have done this to football. They actually haven't. FIFA and British Football bodies have done this to football.

It sure seems like the Americans have their DNA on VAR though, especially with Trump now buddy buddy with the FIFA Prez and with the WC coming up in America. But that's very separate to how we got here with VAR. The Yanks didn't do this to football. The leadership in our backyard did this to football, by thinking (foolishly) that the largely failed American video replay replay in their sports could or should be adopted to football. I don't even understand how anyone could watch NFL or NCAA Football and think that either of those systems would be good for football. That decision-making might make sense if it was working smoothly in America. It hasn't. Remember the NFL sacked its first try at repaly which was similar to VAR. This can't be stressed enough.

The Yanks had no say in any of this happening to football, or when a similar thing happened to NFL / NCAA. This video replay experiment has been a problem for American sports for a lot longer than it's been a problem for Football, because it's existed longer in those sports than VAR. But lets not frame this as if has been embraced to any degree in America or accepted as good or necessary in any of their sports. Maybe in tennis the challenge system works smooth, but in Football, in American NFL/NCAA, and when you consider that it's introduction has caused all kinds of crazy rule changes that have turned sports into a parody of itself, which I do not stand for. That's why I am taking a stand here. Enough is enough I've seen what's been done to American sports, that was bad enough but what VAR has done to Football is frankly on another level and i won't stand for it. American sports like NFL or NCAA are pretty much a lost cause at this point but Football can still be turned back if the will is there.

The situation is really a strain on many sports and I'm trying to assist and provide some clarity. Your reaction is very appropriate but the people who have pushed video replay, whether it's in American sports, whether it's in Football, is in my view, completely unjustifiable at its core. On either side of the pond, the consensus seems to me that most average people dislike video reviews, whether it's NFL/NCAA or Football.

I know from watching American sports like NFL or NCAA Football that video reviews are very controversial and dysfunctional. It's much worse in NCAA because it works like VAR rather than a challenge system. What they decide to review, when, is completely random and it is absolute corrupt in those sports as well, as it lets them rig it by deciding what to review and what subjective logic to apply on any situation. I would argue it's actually easier to rig an NCAA Football game in America through their replay than VAR, and that's saying a lot, because we know how prevalent this sentiment is in Football with VAR. That just gives you a sense of what we're dealing with on both sides of the pond. Video review in general has negatively changed many aspects of sports in general and how they are played. We are seeing the same kind of thing now with VAR in football and in many ways it's even worse because it's more disruptive in Football. But however you feel about it, it's hugely important to remember that it's not actually the Yanks that did this to Football. And the Yanks (well most of them anyway) didn't do to their own sports either what their ivory tower people did to their sports. The difference between what happens in American sports though vs what happened with Football is in America, it's specific to their country and their sports. What FIFA has done with VAR has taken that approach and done it to the whole world. And giving the impression that it was a Yank idea shifts the blame away from where it needs to be (the FIFA President). Don't get me wrong, there's plenty to blame the Yanks for but we do need to take responsibility for what our own National Football Authorities have allowed. They've embraced VAR they continue to push it and think it's here to stay. That's not the Yanks in control of that. In fact, when it comes to Football, we all know that the Yanks are generally the "Followers". But the standards set in their own sports clearly laid the groundwork for what this numpty did to Football with VAR.

And it's this dynamic that is so powerful and clear to see at this point, to understand that this isn't a which side of the pond are you on issue, this is about the common man, the people seeing their joy reduced by people who shouldn't have the power to do what they've done to a sport that is not theirs. It's ours, as in the fans. And they've robbed us of its essence for a foolish agenda that they are too invested in to reverse course. To solve this VAR problem, I'm fair it'll take more thank blaming the Yanks for this. VAR is not their baby. They only started using after FIFA forced it down their throats like tehy did everybody else. And now we gotta do is turn the head when that spoon comes again. And spit it out because the VAR taste is foul and we need football to return to normal. The delusional ivory tower ones who had crazy ideas about how they might use technology in sports or how they might change sports, thinking that it's what people would want when in reality no one asked for any of this. Not in America, not in Britain, not anywhere. Not like this at least. As someone who has followed American NFL/NCAA over the decades, I have seen how these sports have changed for the worse. It is very related to what video systems did to those sports, and an even worse application of this is seen in Football with VAR which is why it's so painful to see this damage to both American sports and to Football. Both American sports and Football have been attacked by the same agenda, the need to want to play God and control decisions during games, to pause the game when they want. This whole concept is fundamentally flawed and the failures were easily predictable.

And I don't care how well intentioned they are. With the disastrous results that VAR and video review in other sports have caused, there are no participation trophies when it comes to officiating. Whether it's across the pond or in the Premier League, there is no excuse for what has been done to any sports which have altered its nature and with VAR it's been done by people running Football, not across the pond but unfortunately right in our backyard. It might feel good to blame the Yanks for VAR destroying football, but in reality the ones responsible for doing this are in our own backyard. But as I said many times, it wasn't the Premier League's idea. They resisted for a while, they voted against VAR in early 2018. But they eventually gave in to the fraud. It is FIFA and FIFA alone who deserve blame first for sacking Sepp and replacing him with this guy and then letting him force feed VAR around the world like he has.

This is 100% AI drivel, possibly the most insulting and disrespectful post I have ever read on Bluemoon.
 
Please consider the relevant points made. I cannot stress enough how important it is understand how this atrocity happened and what would be needed to reverse course. Blame should be placed on the shoulders of those who are in charge. That means FIFA and Premier League who have adopted VAR and gone along with all of it. If you don't understand what happened in America to their sports and how that relates to VAR, they we cannot put this into its proper perspective. Remember, when it comes to Football, the Americans are not the Leaders, they are the "Followers". Football is not their sport, they call it Soccer OK. We don't get to be the ones in charge with all the prestige and blame them when our wires get crossed by our own people taking on agendas from the top down that hurt our sport. Responsibility needs to be taken by those who have done what they have done to Football. That means, primarily those who came up with this and pushed it into football (FIFA) and secondarily, the leagues who have been told their marching orders and going along with it.

AI generated BS
 
I understand, specifically the NFL style announcements which I abhor. I would just point out that video review as a concept might be seen as an American creation, however in American circles, it was largely seen as an attack on American institutions. As far as what is seen as an American influence (something negative) compounds the problem because it redirects the blame to people who are not in control, and takes it off the people who are. American sports have also been harmed by video review and the kind of rule changes that have gone along with it, whether it's NFL/NCAA or other American sports, whether it's football. It's all wrong and we shouldn't act like Americans "support" VAR or even video replay in their sports. They don't, in much the same way that we don't support VAR in football invading and disrespecting our sports, they don't like seeing what happened to their sports by the same kind of agenda.

America might have Donald Trump and the World Cup this year, but as a Footballing country, they are not involved in any of this. American influence has not, even remotely, caused what happened to football. What happened to football was an agenda put into motion by FIFA and accepted by local and national football authorities as the way forward. By framing it as an American influence, you're suggesting that America is somehow running World Football or making decisions related to VAR or the LOTG. They're not. Football is being run by FIFA and its European partners, not by America. Not by Yanks.

AI drivel
 
Which yanks would those be? Last time I checked Football is run and controlled by non-American entities. While there are certainly undesirable elements of American sports that have been so rudely interjected into Football, none of it has been sold to the public or force fed by Americans. VAR is a product of the current FIFA President. It was he and his people who designed it, who decided that an American style instant replay system, which is more like NCAA (NFL Jr) than NFL's challenge system, but the announcements now mirror NFL style referee announcements. And Football is looking more and more like NFL or NCAA Football and that is a huge problem that I agree with you about.

What is is troubling about all this is that your reaction is perfectly normal in that, you don't like seeing Football "Americanized" and VAR gives that impression. But it's so very important to keep in mind that it isn't actual Yanks who have done this to Football. In fact Yanks are very much on the sidelines when it comes to Football rules and such. How it works typically is that FIFA sets the rules and the Premier League (historically, not so much since VAR) created the standard in which the American leagues (and other world leagues) adopt because Premier League is considered the most prestigious league in the world. This also applies to La Liga, Serie A and other European leagues as opposed to the American leagues who historically go along with whatever is happening in England Football or FIFA.

In America, Football (Soccer) are not the standard-makers and therefore can't be blamed for what is going on with Football. And keep in mind, that even NFL / NCAA Video Replay shouldn't even be considered an American standard, in fact, Video Replay even in more conducive American sports, should not be seen as some essential or pillar of how American sports work. In my view, it's quite the opposite. Video replay has destroyed many American sports and turned them into a parody. Video replay (in any sport) is a relatively recent invention and what they did to American sports (with video replay in NFL/NCAA and other sports) has not exactly been well received.

I just think it's important, as someone who's also followed American sports over many decades, I've seen how their sports have changed due to the video replay and it hasn't been good. So while it is important to note that VAR is so uniquely poorly suited for Football, it's not as if the replay in the NFL / NCAA or other American sports is warmly received either. In fact it's video replay has been controversial especially in NCAA Football. The point is to stress at how insidious this whole deal is, from what it's done to Football, to the somewhat separate issue of what video replay generally has done to American sports as well, and how it shouldn't be framed like the Yanks have done this to football. They actually haven't. FIFA and British Football bodies have done this to football.

It sure seems like the Americans have their DNA on VAR though, especially with Trump now buddy buddy with the FIFA Prez and with the WC coming up in America. But that's very separate to how we got here with VAR. The Yanks didn't do this to football. The leadership in our backyard did this to football, by thinking (foolishly) that the largely failed American video replay replay in their sports could or should be adopted to football. I don't even understand how anyone could watch NFL or NCAA Football and think that either of those systems would be good for football. That decision-making might make sense if it was working smoothly in America. It hasn't. Remember the NFL sacked its first try at repaly which was similar to VAR. This can't be stressed enough.

The Yanks had no say in any of this happening to football, or when a similar thing happened to NFL / NCAA. This video replay experiment has been a problem for American sports for a lot longer than it's been a problem for Football, because it's existed longer in those sports than VAR. But lets not frame this as if has been embraced to any degree in America or accepted as good or necessary in any of their sports. Maybe in tennis the challenge system works smooth, but in Football, in American NFL/NCAA, and when you consider that it's introduction has caused all kinds of crazy rule changes that have turned sports into a parody of itself, which I do not stand for. That's why I am taking a stand here. Enough is enough I've seen what's been done to American sports, that was bad enough but what VAR has done to Football is frankly on another level and i won't stand for it. American sports like NFL or NCAA are pretty much a lost cause at this point but Football can still be turned back if the will is there.

The situation is really a strain on many sports and I'm trying to assist and provide some clarity. Your reaction is very appropriate but the people who have pushed video replay, whether it's in American sports, whether it's in Football, is in my view, completely unjustifiable at its core. On either side of the pond, the consensus seems to me that most average people dislike video reviews, whether it's NFL/NCAA or Football.

I know from watching American sports like NFL or NCAA Football that video reviews are very controversial and dysfunctional. It's much worse in NCAA because it works like VAR rather than a challenge system. What they decide to review, when, is completely random and it is absolute corrupt in those sports as well, as it lets them rig it by deciding what to review and what subjective logic to apply on any situation. I would argue it's actually easier to rig an NCAA Football game in America through their replay than VAR, and that's saying a lot, because we know how prevalent this sentiment is in Football with VAR. That just gives you a sense of what we're dealing with on both sides of the pond. Video review in general has negatively changed many aspects of sports in general and how they are played. We are seeing the same kind of thing now with VAR in football and in many ways it's even worse because it's more disruptive in Football. But however you feel about it, it's hugely important to remember that it's not actually the Yanks that did this to Football. And the Yanks (well most of them anyway) didn't do to their own sports either what their ivory tower people did to their sports. The difference between what happens in American sports though vs what happened with Football is in America, it's specific to their country and their sports. What FIFA has done with VAR has taken that approach and done it to the whole world. And giving the impression that it was a Yank idea shifts the blame away from where it needs to be (the FIFA President). Don't get me wrong, there's plenty to blame the Yanks for but we do need to take responsibility for what our own National Football Authorities have allowed. They've embraced VAR they continue to push it and think it's here to stay. That's not the Yanks in control of that. In fact, when it comes to Football, we all know that the Yanks are generally the "Followers". But the standards set in their own sports clearly laid the groundwork for what this numpty did to Football with VAR.

And it's this dynamic that is so powerful and clear to see at this point, to understand that this isn't a which side of the pond are you on issue, this is about the common man, the people seeing their joy reduced by people who shouldn't have the power to do what they've done to a sport that is not theirs. It's ours, as in the fans. And they've robbed us of its essence for a foolish agenda that they are too invested in to reverse course. To solve this VAR problem, I'm fair it'll take more thank blaming the Yanks for this. VAR is not their baby. They only started using after FIFA forced it down their throats like tehy did everybody else. And now we gotta do is turn the head when that spoon comes again. And spit it out because the VAR taste is foul and we need football to return to normal. The delusional ivory tower ones who had crazy ideas about how they might use technology in sports or how they might change sports, thinking that it's what people would want when in reality no one asked for any of this. Not in America, not in Britain, not anywhere. Not like this at least. As someone who has followed American NFL/NCAA over the decades, I have seen how these sports have changed for the worse. It is very related to what video systems did to those sports, and an even worse application of this is seen in Football with VAR which is why it's so painful to see this damage to both American sports and to Football. Both American sports and Football have been attacked by the same agenda, the need to want to play God and control decisions during games, to pause the game when they want. This whole concept is fundamentally flawed and the failures were easily predictable.

And I don't care how well intentioned they are. With the disastrous results that VAR and video review in other sports have caused, there are no participation trophies when it comes to officiating. Whether it's across the pond or in the Premier League, there is no excuse for what has been done to any sports which have altered its nature and with VAR it's been done by people running Football, not across the pond but unfortunately right in our backyard. It might feel good to blame the Yanks for VAR destroying football, but in reality the ones responsible for doing this are in our own backyard. But as I said many times, it wasn't the Premier League's idea. They resisted for a while, they voted against VAR in early 2018. But they eventually gave in to the fraud. It is FIFA and FIFA alone who deserve blame first for sacking Sepp and replacing him with this guy and then letting him force feed VAR around the world like he has.
Your points are presented in long form to try and add credibility, but i'm afraid you've done zero research if you think getting rid of Sepp Blatter was a mistake. There are numerous books and documentaries showing he was the biggest crook in world football. Not defending Infantino as he is arguably worse, of course.
 
This is 100% AI drivel, possibly the most insulting and disrespectful post I have ever read on Bluemoon.
What has been done to Football has been insulting and disrespectful. What has been done to American Sports like NFL/NCAA was insulting and disrespectful to those sports. How those sports have changed, how football has been changed by this sort of thing is not dissimilar to what has occurred in those American sports. There's a common thread here, on both sides of the pond, sports have been harmed by overreaching changes to the sport, through technological intervention, that allows administrators to "Play God", stop matches, review decision, decide who wins games. I'm opposed to this entirely, whether it's in American sports or in Football. It just so happens that we're concerned with Football, and much of what happened to Football might be seen as some kind of American influence, but that's not the way I see it. I see this agenda as a threat to sports generally, first with American sports which have been in decline largely as a result of all this and now with Football. What is insulting and disrespectful is what has been done to football, by the same sort of agenda that has hurt American sports, is now harming Football and I won't stand for it, now will I stand for anyone trying to redirect blame away from who is responsible for causing this crisis.
 
What has been done to Football has been insulting and disrespectful. What has been done to American Sports like NFL/NCAA was insulting and disrespectful to those sports. How those sports have changed, how football has been changed by this sort of thing is not dissimilar to what has occurred in those American sports. There's a common thread here, on both sides of the pond, sports have been harmed by overreaching changes to the sport, through technological intervention, that allows administrators to "Play God", stop matches, review decision, decide who wins games. I'm opposed to this entirely, whether it's in American sports or in Football. It just so happens that we're concerned with Football, and much of what happened to Football might be seen as some kind of American influence, but that's not the way I see it. I see this agenda as a threat to sports generally, first with American sports which have been in decline largely as a result of all this and now with Football. What is insulting and disrespectful is what has been done to football, by the same sort of agenda that has hurt American sports, is now harming Football and I won't stand for it, now will I stand for anyone trying to redirect blame away from who is responsible for causing this crisis.
When you say you won't stand for it, will you stamp your feet and stuff like that?
 
Your points are presented in long form to try and add credibility, but i'm afraid you've done zero research if you think getting rid of Sepp Blatter was a mistake. There are numerous books and documentaries showing he was the biggest crook in world football. Not defending Infantino as he is arguably worse, of course.
I don't know what your research yielded, but the allegations against Sepp Blatter that resulted in his sacking did not stand up in court. He did take a payment but his argument was that the payment was allowed. My stance isn't to defend his actions but to say that the harm caused to football by his sacking has been profound. Infy is not "arguably" worse, it's not arguable. Football was in Great Shape under Blatter compared to this nightmare. Sepp fundamentally opposed video review as a concept and has been disgusted by VAR and all the problems it caused. I'm not defending Sepp or his actions, but he respected the integrity of football, the same can't be said for his replacement.
 
When you say you won't stand for it, will you stamp your feet and stuff like that?
No foot stomping necessary, no more or less any anyone else in here who points out how fed up they are with VAR. But I do think it's important to keep the focus on where it should be, i.e. who has actually pushed this, who are actually running football. The Yanks might be running a lot about the world, but they are certainly not running Football or the Premier League, and they have made a mess of their own sports thanks in large part to their own video reviewing systems long before VAR ever existed. Lets not forget that when it comes to Football, we are the Leaders, the Americans are the Followers. Not the other way around. There's plenty to blame the Yanks for, but what has been done to football isn't one of them. That's on us, the people running our national sports embraced VAR and refuse to detach from it. That's on our institutions, the people running our sport.
 
American influence is over every aspect of our lives and without exception it’s not a good thing.
Every aspect of our lives? Are we 2nd fiddle to America now? Give me a break. How about British influence? We need to take our sporting integrity back from whoever has robbed us of that. Whoever has robbed us of our joy should correct what they've done. And to chalk this all up to vague "American influence" is not helpful. The Yanks are not in control of Football, they did not implement VAR or have much say in it. The decisions related to VAR and the harm caused came directly from FIFA and were accepted by the British football authorities as the way forward.
 
Every aspect of our lives? Are we 2nd fiddle to America now? Give me a break. How about British influence? We need to take our sporting integrity back from whoever has robbed us of that. Whoever has robbed us of our joy should correct what they've done. And to chalk this all up to vague "American influence" is not helpful. The Yanks are not in control of Football, they did not implement VAR or have much say in it. The decisions related to VAR and the harm caused came directly from FIFA and were accepted by the British football authorities as the way forward.

I made a general point which I stand by. You answered with specifics.

I did not say that everything is due to American influence.

Take a chill pill.
 
I made a general point which I stand by. You answered with specifics.

I did not say that everything is due to American influence.
American influence is over every aspect of our lives and without exception it’s not a good thing.
What did you mean by that, and for relevancy, what does that have to do with what has been done to football? You didn't just limit "American influence" to Football or sports, you said it covers "every aspect of our lives" like we're under a dark cloud that we can't get rid of, that is causing all kinds of things to happen to us that we can't do anything about, and you're acting like I'm overreacting to you suggesting that lol. I'm simply responding to what you said, that American influence is over every aspect of our lives, and "without exception". So you didn't just make a general point, you suggested that it exists without exception, over everything. As if America is behind everything that happens in Britian or anywhere else. That was the claim you made. Please explain what you meant by that, how this might relate to football and what if anything can be done about it.
 
What did you mean by that, and for relevancy, what does that have to do with what has been done to football? You didn't just limit "American influence" to Football or sports, you said it covers every aspect of our lives, and now you're acting like I'm overreacting lol. I'm simply responding to what you said, that American influence is over every aspect of our lives, and "without exception". So you didn't just make a general point, you suggested that it exists without exception, over everything. As if America is behind everything that happens in Britian or anywhere else. That was the claim you made. So explain it, explain what you meant by that, or don't.

I’m not your teacher. Learn comprehension.
 
I’m not your teacher. Learn comprehension.
What is there to "comprehend" about you saying "American influence is over every aspect of our lives and without exception it’s not a good thing." I don't think I misinterpreted or miscomprehended what you said or what you're suggesting. That somehow what's happened to football is America's fault, that their influence is behind VAR or what's been done to Football. That's quite a theory, though I'm not sure that's based in reality as they aren't the ones behind what's going on in our sport and to suggest they are is quite outlandish in my view. But I want to better comprehend, if you have anything to add, please do. I'm not one of these people who blame America for everything wrong with the World or Britain. And I think making such arguments lowers our own influence and hinders our ability to solve our problems. What happened to football cannot be solved by blaming this on the Yanks. That's old man yelling at the clouds territory. The people who can return football to normal are the ones who took normal away. And they don't live across the ocean.
 
No foot stomping necessary, no more or less any anyone else in here who points out how fed up they are with VAR. But I do think it's important to keep the focus on where it should be, i.e. who has actually pushed this, who are actually running football. The Yanks might be running a lot about the world, but they are certainly not running Football or the Premier League, and they have made a mess of their own sports thanks in large part to their own video reviewing systems long before VAR ever existed. Lets not forget that when it comes to Football, we are the Leaders, the Americans are the Followers. Not the other way around. There's plenty to blame the Yanks for, but what has been done to football isn't one of them. That's on us, the people running our national sports embraced VAR and refuse to detach from it. That's on our institutions, the people running our sport.
I'm not fed up with VAR, just the varying application of it by people who want to trash the game by delivering wholly variable decisions from one game to another. There are dozens of instances where an offisde is given that nigh on matches another that isn't given, and how those VARists have strangled the handball law.

The thought of VAR getting involved in other areas of the game will be to the detriment of the spectacle. We've had a seven min VAR check to chalk off a goal. I await an eight minute check to see whether it was a goal kick or a corner. And then they come up with the wrong decision.

But apart from VAR there are too many areas where referees wilfully ignore a proper application of the LotG - wrestling at corners, blatant timewasting by teams, feigning injury to bring a game to a halt, but, hey ho, we've had the fair play handshake so all's well in the national sport. This is where the effort and focus should be, not on whether a player is 0.1mm offside.
 

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