US & Israel attack Iran

Right, enough with the pile on.

I'm responding to like five+ people at the minute. You know my views, i'm not changing them, so don't bother trying. Let's not clog the thread yeah?
 
Metal Biker said:
They have, and the UK didn't get involved with that either did they.

What, you think i'll shed tears if Netenyahu bites it?! Not at all!
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The hypocrisy is rife isn't it.
Those justifying international intervention because of Iranian deaths are the first to defend Israel in spite of their killing spree in Gaza.

I cannot support military intervention without the agreement of the international community, especially in a world of rogue actors like Trump and Netanyahu. Diplomatic intervention and a clear plan for an out in which the Iranian people choose their own leaders are what is needed.
 
Anyone who is trying to justify this has rocks in their head and is acting in bad faith. 27% approval in the US on this, says it all.
 
argyle said:
This is the same argument people made for regime change in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc.

No one liked the previous leaders of those countries just like no one likes/liked Irans leaders now.

What people are concerned about is what happens now and after.

America has shown that it's good at dropping bombs but awful at planning for what comes after and the unintended consequences.
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I think we’d all agree the “what next” is vital and beyond “Iranian people take over” it isn’t entirely clear the US administration has a plan.
 
oldius said:
The hypocrisy is rife isn't it.
Those justifying international intervention because of Iranian deaths are the first to defend Israel in spite of their killing spree in Gaza.

I cannot support military intervention without the agreement of the international community, especially in a world of rogue actors like Trump and Netanyahu. Diplomatic intervention and a clear plan for an out in which the Iranian people choose their own leaders are what is needed.
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You yourself haven't posted at all on the Russian invasion of Ukraine thread.

No opinion on it whatsoever. Either that or the search function is faulty. Thought you might have said something, given this is how strongly you feel about illegal invasions.
 
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Ribble73 said:
So what the Iranian regime said -Taqqiya on the World Stage -everything they actually did suggested they would do whatever it took to wipe out Israel which included decades devoted to developing weapons grade Uranium along with the endless funding of Hamas/ Hezbollah etc
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While you're free to believe this, this just isn't the conclusions of the inspection agencies nor the experts in the field.

And taqiyya means concealing their faith from religious persecution, not lying about nuclear weapons. Stop being weird.
 
oldius said:
The hypocrisy is rife isn't it.
Those justifying international intervention because of Iranian deaths are the first to defend Israel in spite of their killing spree in Gaza.

I cannot support military intervention without the agreement of the international community, especially in a world of rogue actors like Trump and Netanyahu. Diplomatic intervention and a clear plan for an out in which the Iranian people choose their own leaders are what is needed.
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Do you not think that a world where Iran is no longer funding its proxies weakens that “right to protect themselves” argument that Israel used to justify their actions in Gaza. Ultimately without Hamas et-al Israel are on the hook to find a fair solution with no fall back to the boggie monster.

Fanciful maybe but insanity is trying the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.
 
metalblue said:
Do you not think that a world where Iran is no longer funding its proxies weakens that “right to protect themselves” argument that Israel used to justify their actions in Gaza. Ultimately without Hamas et-al Israel are on the hook to find a fair solution with no fall back to the boggie monster.

Fanciful maybe but insanity is trying the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.
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Yeah right which is why they're moving to annex the West Bank and no one is stopping them.
 
Damocles said:
While you're free to believe this, this just isn't the conclusions of the inspection agencies nor the experts in the field.
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This is the problem with the Experts -they don’t believe what the Islamic Millenarians say but they do 100%
 
metalblue said:
Because of the same tried and tested arguments.
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No because they have Extremist religious Jews in power who want to annex it because God gave them the land, they'll also annex parts of Lebanon and Syria too.
 
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