US & Israel attack Iran

They got Capone on tax evasion. Fingers crossed hey?
It’s not totally analogous because they got Capone on a lesser charge because they couldn’t prove the more serious charge (even though they knew he had done it). Andrew has not committed a sexual offence in this jurisdiction as far as I can see.

So they haven’t arrested him for one offence because they can’t prove the other, but rather with Andrew they arrested him for one and (it would seem) he has not committed the other.
 
It’s not totally analogous because they got Capone on a lesser charge because they couldn’t prove the more serious charge (even though they knew he had done it). Andrew has not committed a sexual offence in this jurisdiction as far as I can see.

So they haven’t arrested him for one offence because they can’t prove the other, but rather with Andrew they arrested him for one and (it would seem) he has not committed the other.
Can we guillotine him anyway?
 
I did find this quote from the press conference about an hour ago quite interesting from Rubio. The scale at which Iran could make those Shahed drones was worrying. They're cheap to make, easy to make and because of that you can send loads of them at your enemies. And as we've seen despite their low tech, some will get through (the RAF base in Cyprus, cities in Qatar, UAE etc)

“They’re attacking facilities that have nothing to do with war or with military, and that’s weakened Iran,” Rubio said. “That’s Iran despite years of sanctions. Imagine a year from now or a year and a half from now, the capabilities they would have to inflict damage on us.”
The below image was from a separate video* about the state of the Ukraine war after 4 years. It shows in the last year just how much Iran/Russia have ramped up the production of Shahed drones. If those numbers roughly correlate with Iran's production for their own means then you can see why they would have been worried.

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Worrying if true. But links back to my original post. I.e the danger of cheap attack drones that require expensive counter missiles to take them out.

Doubly worrying if they really do have a network of these tunnels to keep launching missiles/drones.

 
Obviously the heads been cut off the snake, but killing the rest of it's not going to be easy. Unless the army turns it'll keep sprouting a new one.
Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Given this past week I wouldn't want to be the member of the Revolutionary Guard popping their head above the parapet in support of the Ayatollah. Could be all the time the people need to organise and mobilise against them.
 
We already have the tens of thousands dead, at the hands of Ayatollah Khamenei's regime, and it would have continued.

Apparently those lives lost don't seem to feature in the argument, nor does the continued suffering of the Iranian people. It's all about people dying now, after the event, for some reason that seems to rankle.
Great so when are we attacking Russia, China and North Korea?
 
If you're happy for Iran to have them who are led by people who believe better awaits them after being vaporised then good luck with that.
Iran were not even remotely close to having nuclear weapons. Nor were they looking to get them any time soon. Stop making idiotic strawman arguments.
 
The leader of the opposition in israel said last week that he doesn't think he has "a dispute on the biblical level [about] what the original borders of Israel are".

"I support anything that will allow the Jews [to have] a big, vast, strong land, and a safe shelter for us, for our children, and for our children’s children. That’s what I support." Link

In other words he's interested in Greater Israel - invading multiple more countries, mass murdering and ethnically cleansing millions more people. Egypt and Iraq are two of the countries who would be included.

Israelii former pm naftali bennet said last week that "Turkey is the new Iran" Link
What does the US ambassador think about Greater Israel?

 
Where do you get your info that they aren’t even close as far as I know they have a stockpile of 60% enriched uranium the only reason for that is weapons production, estimated before the attacks last year were weeks to months, admittedly it could be purely western propaganda. But Irans leadership are desperate to get their paws on the bomb it would naive in the extreme to think they aren’t.
I’m shocked you’ve decided to believe anything Trump or Bibi are saying about Iran’s nuclear threat tbh. Didn’t realise you were that gullible.

More than one source. One written, one during an interview.


 
If you're happy for Iran to have them who are led by people who believe better awaits them after being vaporised then good luck with that.

Iran were not even remotely close to having nuclear weapons. Nor were they looking to get them any time soon. Stop making idiotic strawman arguments.

A lot of the current US administration is also made up of christo-fascists who think they're guaranteed to be going to a better place too and god's on their side.

It's not really a point of difference between the two sides.

Where do you get the info Iran are not remotely close to having a nuclear weapon or not looking to get one.

This has been confirmed by pretty much everyone now.

4 days ago the mediators in the peace talks, Oman, confirmed Iran had agreed to allow independent inspectors in and not to have any nuclear material

“If the ultimate objective is to ensure forever that Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb, I think we have cracked that problem through these negotiations by agreeing [on] a very important breakthrough that has never been achieved any time before,” Al Busaidi said.

“The single most important achievement, I believe, is the agreement that Iran will never ever have nuclear material that will create a bomb,” he said.

“Now we are talking about zero stockpiling, and that is very, very important because if you cannot stockpile material that is enriched, then there is no way that you can actually create a bomb,” he added.

There would also be “full and comprehensive verification by the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency]”, he said, referring to the UN’s nuclear watchdog.
 
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I’m shocked you’ve decided to believe anything Trump or Bibi are saying about Iran’s nuclear threat tbh. Didn’t realise you were that gullible.

More than one source. One written, one during an interview.



So I have to believe this guy instead, seems reasonable.
 
And yet you’re simping for Israel and the US attacking Iran, so when are THEY attacking China, Russia and North Korea then?
Not really I've nothing for Israel or even the United States, I certainly don't like the Iranian regime it's a throw back to the dark ages.
 

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