So we have to hope the Iranian people most affected by the regime are able to take control of their own destinies and forge a better future for themselves, installing civli liberties. Like they were pleading and protesting for.You should, because if the end result of this is the death of a leader, a load of bombing and then the status quo it all seems a bit pointless.
Well you’re saying the war is about helping Iranian people change their regime which the guys running it say is not the case.Couldn't care less what those two morons think or say.
They won't though, and haven't.Ha, and you call me naive.
As I said, the international community needs to step up. One way of doing so is to stop letting America lead negotiations.
Oman was negotiating in good faith with Iran and by all accounts were making ground towards a resolution.
Why not let that play out before dropping bombs?
Well it’s certainly not this war which won’t do anything to stop it either, but it will kill tens of thousands as a by product for whatever the fuck it is.You mean the Revolutionary Guard Corps buildings?
What exactly was the plan of the International Community to stop the murder of Iranians by it's own regime?
I've not said the war is 'about' anything. I'd like to see where I have stated what this war is about or others intentions for it.Well you’re saying the war is about helping Iranian people change their regime which the guys running it say is not the case.
So we have to hope the Iranian people most affected by the regime are able to take control of their own destinies and forge a better future for themselves, installing civli liberties. Like they were pleading and protesting for.
Tens of thousands were being killed by the regime itself. Don't remember a lot of outcry on here about it.Well it’s certainly not this war which won’t do anything to stop it either, but it will kill tens of thousands as a by product for whatever the fuck it is.
That's the hope I have, and at this point that's all anyone has.This is my concern, there doesnt seem to be a plan for the future beyond "we have to hope they take control of their own destinies".
Maybe that approach will work better for all concerned than it has in the past.
Honestly don't think it matters, everyone bar the idiots know it's a mouthpiece for warmongering corporate right wingers, and pay it no heed.As an aside, feels like this conflict is the final nail in the coffin of Twitter/X as any kind of meaningful platform. There’s so much misinformation and endless AI generated videos. Every comment is asking Grok if the content is real, and even Grok’s replies are often not credible. It’s an absolute mess. Nice one, Elon.
Elon made Twitter a much worse platform.As an aside, feels like this conflict is the final nail in the coffin of Twitter/X as any kind of meaningful platform. There’s so much misinformation and endless AI generated videos. Every comment is asking Grok if the content is real, and even Grok’s replies are often not credible. It’s an absolute mess. Nice one, Elon.
Who mentioned not standing up to bullies?You need to watch SAS Rouge Heroes and stop panicking mate!
You stand up to bullies!
They won't though, and haven't.
That's why I called you naive.
'Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggy! until you can find a rock'.
So. when Israel annex lebanon, then turn their eyes to Jordan it wil lbe for the good of them also, not about oil, cutting off china from resources and cementing influence and power in the region by having every other state in a constant state of flux and tumoil.Tens of thousands were being killed by the regime itself. Don't remember a lot of outcry on here about it.
There was some tutting... i'll be fair.
Tens of thousands were being killed by the regime itself. Don't remember a lot of outcry on here about it.
There was some tutting... i'll be fair.
So far it has been.Its not beyond the capabilities of the international community.
So thats what I want to happen. And thats what I believe should happen.
Your hope that this will all be resolved by the Iranian people finding a way to miraculously take control of their destiny will need huge levels of support from the international community. Not just bombs
Its never been outside the capabilities of the international community.So far it has been.
International Community should indeed now step in; UN peacekeepers as the 'boots on the ground', ambassadors of all nations, stationed in Iran, to help forge a new constitution for the people of Iran offering civil liberties and freedoms and protection of freedom of expression etc.
I haven't said anything remotely close to what you're suggesting.So. when Israel annex lebanon, then turn their eyes to Jordan it wil lbe for the good of them also, not about oil, cutting off china from resources and cementing influence and power in the region by having every other state in a constant state of flux and tumoil.
Because we all know once the dust settles and if a regiem change happens the Iranian people will be left to whatever factionalism emerges.
Trump has no post war plan, cunts just winging it
No, just its will.Its never been outside the capabilities of the international commumity.
I remember you saying that about Berkovic and Benarbia 25 years ago!!The Arab-Israeli pass process.
There won’t be enough Patriot missiles to go round unless they stop supplying Ukraine! The shit will hit the fan once they’ve used them up Iran could be hitting Arab states anywhere they like, if they go for the oil fields big time or shipping the world will grind to a halt.