US & Israel attack Iran

Ric said:
As an aside, feels like this conflict is the final nail in the coffin of Twitter/X as any kind of meaningful platform. There’s so much misinformation and endless AI generated videos. Every comment is asking Grok if the content is real, and even Grok’s replies are often not credible. It’s an absolute mess. Nice one, Elon.
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Best thing I ever did re social media was close my account on November 6th 2024.
 
Interesting, apparently it's really unsustainable to continue this for the next 5 weeks if Iran outlasts that their drones will start getting more success in the Gulf especially.

 
Scottyboi said:
Interesting, apparently it's really unsustainable to continue this for the next 5 weeks if Iran outlasts that their drones will start getting more success in the Gulf especially.

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Kind of on the same subject, I watched a video outlining the low cost of Iranian drones/missiles versus the very expensive shield that combats them. It basically said that the cost on the US/Israel side will quickly become uncomfortably high.
 
dave_blue12 said:
Kind of on the same subject, I watched a video outlining the low cost of Iranian drones/missiles versus the very expensive shield that combats them. It basically said that the cost on the US/Israel side will quickly become uncomfortably high.
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There won’t be enough Patriot missiles to go round unless they stop supplying Ukraine! The shit will hit the fan once they’ve used them up Iran could be hitting Arab states anywhere they like, if they go for the oil fields big time or shipping the world will grind to a halt.
 
Damocles said:
Greater Israel can't ever exist and its more an anti-semetic conspiracy theory (with all due respect). The entire region and world would turn on them if Israel tried to implement it, and frankly, many of our Government say badly worded or out of context statements all the time but they're not considered official policy.

Israel wants to protect itself. Yes, they do horrendous shit to achieve that goal, but they're not an imperialist force that is trying to conquer countries. They're cunts, but not that type of cunts. The state of Israel is bad under Bibi because their doctrine has become "survive at all cost", not "expand at all costs". There's a moral difference there. I'm no fan of the Israeli government but I can recognise the difference between desperation and imperialism
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I'm not sure whether that's naivety or something more sinister (as in even the truth can be antisemitic). Do you call it "the west bank" or do you call it "Judea and Samaria"? Here's the US Ambassador to Israel being very "antisemitic" by saying Israel can have the whole region.

www.mediaite.com

U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee Says Israel Is Entitled to Entire Middle East: ‘It Would Be Fine If They Took It All’

Carlson grilled Huckabee on his biblical "justification" for the land of Israel, noting the remit in Genesis is greater than the country's modern borders.
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moomba said:
The international community grow a set of balls and deal with international relations rather than let Israel and Team America World Police determine the future of yet another country?

Why is it that America is running around negotiating deals (or not) with Iran and Russia etc.

Who appointed them world negotiator. They've made it clear that their only interest is whats good for America, so they can fuck off back to America and let the grown ups deal with international relations.

Naive maybe, but the world would be better (and safer) a a result.
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Exceptionally naive, yes. Since these massacres of Iranian protesters has been going on for months, and aside from the odd tutting, this world community of grown ups as you call them have done what they always do; nothing. Just like in Ukraine, they sit, condemn, listen to what Ukraine needs, weigh up the pros and cons, all the while it's the Ukrainian people making the sacrifices.

I'm not praising the baboon or the US and Israel for acting, merely seeing the opportunity that has now opened up for the group of people that the removal of Khamenei affects, the Iranian people themselves.
 
Blue Maverick said:
There won’t be enough Patriot missiles to go round unless they stop supplying Ukraine! The shit will hit the fan once they’ve used them up Iran could be hitting Arab states anywhere they like, if they go for the oil fields big time or shipping the world will grind to a halt.
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Or the desalination plants.
 
Vic said:
I'm not sure whether that's naivety or something more sinister (as in even the truth can be antisemitic). Do you call it "the west bank" or do you call it "Judea and Samaria"? Here's the US Ambassador to Israel being very "antisemitic" by saying Israel can have the whole region.

www.mediaite.com

U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee Says Israel Is Entitled to Entire Middle East: ‘It Would Be Fine If They Took It All’

Carlson grilled Huckabee on his biblical "justification" for the land of Israel, noting the remit in Genesis is greater than the country's modern borders.
www.mediaite.com www.mediaite.com
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The fact that any ****, in 2026, uses the fucking bible as justification for territorial expansion is beyond bonkers.
 
Metal Biker said:
Exceptionally naive, yes. Since these massacres of Iranian protesters has been going on for months, and aside from the odd fitting this world community of grown ups as you call them have done what they always do; nothing.

I'm not praising the baboon or the US and Israel for acting, merely seeing the opportunity that has now opened up for the group of people that the removal of Khamenei affects, the Iranian people themselves.
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And yet Rubio and Hegseth say this isn’t a war for regime change.
 
Metal Biker said:
Exceptionally naive, yes. Since these massacres of Iranian protesters has been going on for months, and aside from the odd tutting, this world community of grown ups as you call them have done what they always do; nothing.

I'm not praising the baboon or the US and Israel for acting, merely seeing the opportunity that has now opened up for the group of people that the removal of Khamenei affects, the Iranian people themselves.
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And now theyre dropping bombs on buildings in Tehran.

Without it seems any plan of what happens next.

I may dislike my anti social neighbours on one side, but I dont want to see my neighbours on the other side burn their house down because they've decided its the best way to deal with it.

America and Israel should have gone through the proper, legal channels. What the rest of the international community needs to do now is take some responsibility for international affairs and not look the other way when people start illegal wars.

Oman seem to have been making ground, maybe killing people wasnt the only way of stopping the Iranian regime from killing people.
 
moomba said:
And now theyre dropping bombs on buildings in Tehran.

Without it seems any plan of what happens next.

I may dislike my anti social neighbours on one side, but I dont want to see my neighbours on the other side burn their house down because they've decided its the best way to deal with it.

America and Israel should have gone through the proper, legal channels. What the rest of the international community needs to do now is take some responsibility for international affairs and not look the other way when people start illegal wars.
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You mean the Revolutionary Guard Corps buildings?

What exactly was the plan of the International Community to stop the murder of Iranians by it's own regime? What was the International Communities plan to stop the massacre in Gaza? The illegal invasion of Ukraine? Continue to buy Russian oil and gas under the guise of sanctions? Not providing Ukraine the means and weapons to defend their cities from missile attack?

I've got no faith in this 'International Community', in the end it only cares about one thing; how is this going to affect 'me' financially. It's convenient to allow people to die on the other side of the world under a despotic regime so long as it doesn't affect 'my' fuel prices and delivery charges. Oh, they can be angry about it online, insult others who don't conform to the same views they do and champion slogans and phrases of support. Doesn't stop the killing though.
 
Metal Biker said:
You mean the Revolutionary Guard Corps buildings?
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Ha, and you call me naive.

What exactly was the plan of the International Community to stop the murder of Iranians by it's own regime? What was the International Communities plan to stop the massacre in Gaza? The illegal invasion of Ukraine? Continue to buy Russian oil and gas under the guise of sanctions? Not providing Ukraine the means and weapons to defend their cities from missile attack?
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As I said, the international community needs to step up. One way of doing so is to stop letting America lead negotiations.

Oman was negotiating in good faith with Iran and by all accounts were making ground towards a resolution.

Why not let that play out before dropping bombs?
 
BlindEyeSeesAll said:
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Regarding Douglas Macgregor
He's an American far-right grifter and close friends with Tucker Carlson, and is basically a Russian asset. He uses his past titles to command respect, but these days he’s used to push Russian interests, which means lying to defend his allies and attack his enemies. Over the past few years he’s spent his time spreading every possible conspiracy about Ukraine, from Zelensky supposedly buying dozens of mansions with foreign money, to claims about a Nazi regime, a pro-LGBT regime, biolabs making biological weapons, basically whatever story gives different audiences a reason to hate Ukraine. He does the same with Israel, the US, Europe, and any country that stands in the way of Russian interests.

I’m bringing this up because he has less credibility on any topic than some random person on X.
 
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