US & Israel attack Iran

Metal Biker said:
I haven't said anything remotely close to what you're suggesting.

Again, don't care what Trump thinks or wants, my concern is for the people of Iran. That's where everyone's focus should be. The regime is gone, the remnants leaderless, this is where the UN steps in to ensure a peaceful transition of power over to the people.
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I also want whats best for the Iranian people, a fre e and fairly elected goventment, the people to choose how they live and no external influence, however the UN is powerless as trump and netenyahu give no fucks about it's opinion.

What you want isn't going to happen unfortunately, wish it was but sadly most of the security council are shithouses and will sit and watch 2 despots play a game of Risk.
 
moomba said:
Fucking hell, thats the best you've got?
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It's not a gotcha, i'm pointing out that that thread, only 21 pages compared to this, got hardly any condemnation about the 30k+ murdered (that we know of) simply for protesting.

Not exactly 'making it up' then, am I.
 
urban genie said:
I also want whats best for the Iranian people, a fre e and fairly elected goventment, the people to choose how they live and no external influence, however the UN is powerless as trump and netenyahu give no fucks about it's opinion.

What you want isn't going to happen unfortunately, wish it was but sadly most of the security council are shithouses and will sit and watch 2 despots play a game of Risk.
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But i'm hearing from others that the 'International Community' should have taken charge of the situation.

Are you in agreement that they do nothing when it matters and we should look at this as a golden opportunity for the Iranian people, with our continued support of course, to not allow the zealots and despots of that nation reclaim power? If so, i'm all for that!
 
Metal Biker said:
I haven't said anything remotely close to what you're suggesting.

Again, don't care what Trump thinks or wants, my concern is for the people of Iran. That's where everyone's focus should be. The regime is gone, the remnants leaderless, this is where the UN steps in to ensure a peaceful transition of power over to the people.
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I think with drones and missiles continually launched all over the Middle East , the regime is far from presently gone .
Whilst I totally agree with your sentiments regarding the Iranian people , the UN won’t have enough boots to stabilise what will be left in Iran .
We are at the mercy of two fucking lunatics in charge of the US and Isreal
 
Metal Biker said:
It's not a gotcha, i'm poitning out that that thread, only 21 pages compared to this, got hardly any condemnation about the 30k+ murdered (that we know of) simply for protesting.
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I think half of those posts were blaming Israel aswell. To fend off the impending hordes I am not pro Israel.
 
Wayneclarkemunchescarrots said:
I think with drones and missiles continually launched all over the Middle East , the regime is far from presently gone .
Whilst I totally agree with your sentiments regarding the Iranian people , the UN won’t have enough boots to stabilise what will be left in Iran .
We are at the mercy of two fucking lunatics in charge of the US and Isreal
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The 'world' doesn't have enough soldiers to keep control through peacekeepers?

They do, they just don't want to risk anything upsetting Russia or China, though the latter has been suspiciously quieter than I thought they'd be. Also, this is panic fire from the remnants of the regime, no rhyme or reason to the strikes.
 
moomba said:
Not sure why you have a problem with the suggestion that the international commhnity should do more?
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Never said I have a problem with the fact they should do more, I agreed on that point.

I'm criticising them (and I include the UK in that) for having done very little, if anything, at all thus far, aside from 'talk'.
 
Rubio's statement that they attacked before being attacked (after Israel were going to attack Iran), fails on one crucial point.
There is no way Israel would have attacked Iran without permission from Trump...
 
Metal Biker said:
The 'world' doesn't have enough soldiers to keep control through peacekeepers?

They do, they just don't want to risk anything upsetting Russia or China, though the latter has been suspiciously quieter than I thought they'd be. Also, this is panic fire from the remnants of the regime, no rhyme or reason to the strikes.
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The UN members will not commit the amount of numbers required for peace keeping in Iran .
Russia although politically allied with Iran would be delighted if they did if it means no boots are on the ground in Ukraine
 
Metal Biker said:
Exceptionally naive, yes. Since these massacres of Iranian protesters has been going on for months, and aside from the odd tutting, this world community of grown ups as you call them have done what they always do; nothing. Just like in Ukraine, they sit, condemn, listen to what Ukraine needs, weigh up the pros and cons, all the while it's the Ukrainian people making the sacrifices.

I'm not praising the baboon or the US and Israel for acting, merely seeing the opportunity that has now opened up for the group of people that the removal of Khamenei affects, the Iranian people themselves.
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After a civil war?

Gorton and Denton with RPGs.

Go on, are you backing the revolutionary guard or the shah's son or the Kurdish separatists or.... ?
 
Metal Biker said:
Never said I have a problem with the fact they should do more, i'm criticising them for having done very little at all.
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As was I, you called me naive.

Are you willing to answer the question on Oman? Without having a huge insight into those negotations, surely if they were making progress that was worth exploring as an alternative to war.
 
moomba said:
Now youre just making things up.
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Not really.

When tens of thousands of Persians were being killed in January because they’d simply had enough and started an uprise, you only have to see this forum and the Iran threads, never mind the wider society, where there were no more than a dozen pages and nobody seemed to care much. The Gaza thread would get a dozen pages on days where nothing happened.

America take out the Ayatollah and all of any sudden we’re approaching 100 pages in a handful of days.
 
Metal Biker said:
It's not a gotcha, i'm pointing out that that thread, only 21 pages compared to this, got hardly any condemnation about the 30k+ murdered (that we know of) simply for protesting.

Not exactly 'making it up' then, am I.
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I posted a ton in that thread but even I can understand that an Iranian domestic incident is going to garner a lot less conversation than The US and Israel starting an illegal war against Iran and Oman, Kuwait, Saudi, UAE, Bahrain, Cyrpus and the UK being dragged into defending themselves.
 
moomba said:
Yes you are.
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That's a child's answer. Read the Uprising in Iran thread then.

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Uprising in Iran

I couldn't see another thread on this. It looks like the regime in Iran is about to be toppled. It look's like the "Supreme Leader" has fled and there are reports that members of the security services are defecting to the protesters. This is quite a seismic event if the regime is overthrown.
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