US & Israel attack Iran

[Ban-jani]

Trump 'I guess someone who is kind of worse could take over Iran'....

These kind of statements, shatter all the pearl clutchers in here saying he is doing it to save the Iranians... Bloke does not give a fuck.

Genuine question, has anyone actually said he’s doing it to benefit the Iranians? I’ve not read that opinion once.

 

[lloydie]

I read it and it said it wasn't possible to say whether it was or not. Airstrikes go wrong and missiles in flight also do. Given the Iranians were sending missiles in all sorts of directions, that can't be ruled out.

Remember all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the Israelis allegedly causing significant casualties at a hospital in Gaza? Turned out it was a Hamas rocket.

Bollocks, more dissemblage from you.

 

[Ban-jani]

Have the IAEA seen Israels nuclear weopens?

Israel isn’t a NPT member, Iran is.

 

[cleavers]

Have the IAEA seen Israels nuclear weopens?

No because they don't yet have any.

I don't know how much access they've had to their nuclear programme, but I very much doubt it's been "full access".

 

[The blue phantom]

No because they don't yet have any.

I don't know how much access they've had to their nuclear programme, but I very much doubt it's been "full access".

You dont think Israel has any Nuclear Weopens?

 

[TinFoilHat]

We need adults in the room.

Not a decrepit nonce man baby and sociopathic psychopath trying to engineer world war 3 to protect themselves from criminal sanctions in their own countries.

 

[Palerider]

There is a vast middle ground here and sadly, barely anyone on this thread lives in it.

Trump and co cunts.
Netanyahu and co cunts.
Iranian Islamic regime cunts.
Hamas cunts.
Hezbollah cunts.
Muslims hating Jews just because cunts.
Jews hating Muslims just because cunts.
Posters hating others because they don’t agree cunts.

Apparently the Earth is just a tiny, tiny speck in the vast expanse of space but what a fuck up we have made of it.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Cue awkward hand waving

"We have the greatest air superiority in history, like never seen before. Our missiles will blot out the Sun."

That still won't deal with Shia Islamic fanatics who will fight to the death.

More easily achievable for the fanatics now as command and control of the Iranian state has been totally decentralised in light of the Israeli attacks back in June/July.

 

[moomba]

Have you ever seen footage of Russia in the UN about Ukraine, or any of the other countless atrocities and wrongdoings by countries covered? That’s beyond optimistic what you’ve written there.

Iran would just tell them to fuck off, as Russia did. You wouldn’t even get them to turn up. And likewise with the US and Israel, they’d just tell the UN to do one.

I didnt say what I thought would happen. I said what I thought should happen.

What should alsp happen is adequate consequences for ignoring UN rules. And world leaders willing to enforce those consequences.

Like I said, should not would. There isnt any optimism on my part. But I'd rather stick with my beliefs on what should happen than shrug my shoulders and stop believing theres a right and a wrong way to go about things.

 

[cleavers]

You dont think Israel has any Nuclear Weopens?

Sorry misread your question (thought it was Iran), but I suspect the answer is the same anyway.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

There is a vast middle ground here and sadly, barely anyone on this thread lives in it.

Trump and co cunts.
Netanyahu and co cunts.
Iranian Islamic regime cunts.
Hamas cunts.
Hezbollah cunts.
Muslims hating Jews just because cunts.
Jews hating Muslims just because cunts.
Posters hating others because they don’t agree cunts.

****.

 

[The blue phantom]

Israel isn’t a NPT member, Iran is.

Why do you think they aren't?

 

[Vic]

This is a post by an Iranian friend of mine

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First, we had to destroy the town in order to liberate it.

 

[moomba]

Some on here only seem to think the first is a crime Against humanity...

They really dont.

 

[moomba]

I stopped reading at "UN", it's a completely useless body on things like this, simply because of how the voting works.

The only people any discussion on "nuclear" should be in front of is the IAEA, but they need to see everything, and the regime in Iran wouldn't let that happen (if they were trying to build a bomb), it might claim they've given full access, but how does anyone actually know/trust them ?

It needs serious reform, or scrapping.

 

[Vic]

There’s no real historical precedent really for what this regime is about -the Nazis weren’t Millenarian lunatics hell bent on acquiring Nuclear Weapons to bring about the end times

Just checking - you mean the USA...

 

[Ban-jani]

I didnt say what I thought would happen. I said what I thought should happen.

What should alsp happen is adequate consequences for ignoring UN rules. And world leaders willing to enforce those consequences.

Like I said, should not would. There isnt any optimism on my part. But I'd rather stick with my beliefs on what should happen than shrug my shoulders and stop believing theres a right and a wrong way to go about things.

Ok, I don’t disagree with that, I just gave up on the notion of the UN doing anything or “international law” actually being anything adhered to.

 

[BlueRockape]

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Let's just compare stats for a minute...

Casualties of the Gaza war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2026 Iran massacres - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's a minimum of 36,000 Iranians that were eliminated by their own government in a time frame of 1 month vs 76,000 minimum in 29 months (to date).

Both are appalling figures.
The difference?

Some on here only seem to think the first is a crime Against humanity...

Depending on who you class as a civilised country

 

[RiversideBlue]

There is a vast middle ground here and sadly, barely anyone on this thread lives in it.

Trump and co cunts.
Netanyahu and co cunts.
Iranian Islamic regime cunts.
Hamas cunts.
Hezbollah cunts.
Muslims hating Jews just because cunts.
Jews hating Muslims just because cunts.
Posters hating others because they don’t agree cunts.

They can't all be united fans, surely!

 

[johnny crossan]

The simple truth is the US is running a global protection racket and Israeli intelligence are the brains behind it in Iran.