Fat Chance
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Was at Wembley (black and white photo) Tommy,Big Joe and Arthur Mann v WBA 1970 League cup final.View attachment 187835
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Dennis Fidler, Bert Lister and Billy Haydock at Maine Road on July 27, 1959
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7th December 1974. Maine Road, Manchester. Manchester City 3 v Sheffield United 2.
It didn't muck up the pitch as much but the Cup Final's half-time marching display by the massed bands of the Coldstream Guards etc. wouldn't go down well nowadays either. When did they stop having those, I wonder?Christ, look at that turf! By spring it would be like that every year. Don't know when they stopped having the horse of the fucking year show on it. After that, I think. Because it so happens I was at Wembley for the Leeds-Chelsea final, first match. The pitch was the proverbial badger's arse. (Still a cracking match, mind).
Like a billiard table these days.
Afterwards had chicken & chips in a posh restaurant in Leicester Square and thought it was luxury.
Luxury!You were lucky! We used to go to restaurant where they only gave you the wrapping paper to eat…
Can’t have been much of a mate if you can’t remember his nameMy old mate used to live in one of those side streets but I cannot remember which one.
We got hammered 4-0 by Arsenal that day
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Sandy Wann, George Greenall and David Shawcros
Absolute travesty how maine road ended up looking.
My dad taught me to play on that Croft mate. That one and the one at the bottom of the entry between Rosedale and Horton where all the old lock ups were.No that picture is of the main stand and the streets which faced it directly.
I grew up on 20 Wykeham Street (the terraced Street in this picture.
We used to have an entry which people used to stash your bike but that was well before my time in the late 70s and 80s.
It was an incredible place to grow up and played football every night on the croft above the Man City mosaic next to H Block..
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27th November 1939. Manchester City and England goalkeeper Frank Swift pictured working as a Special Constable on point duty in Deansgate in the centre of Manchester in the early days of World War II.
Although he’s not mentioned in this article there is a section about Raich Carter joining the Sunderland Fire Brigade and being booed by the home crowd as they saw joining a reserved occupation a way of avoiding conscription. Something that resonates with me as my Grandad was refused by the army due to medical reasons and had to join the Home Guard sadly receiving so much abuse from ignorant locals that he never really recovered and felt a failure for the rest of his life.Genuine question: why wouldn’t Swift have been “called up”?
He could hardly claim he was flat-footed.
Cheers for that pal, very interesting.Although he’s not mentioned in this article there is a section about Raich Carter joining the Sunderland Fire Brigade and being booed by the home crowd as they saw joining a reserved occupation a way of avoiding conscription. Something that resonates with me as my Grandad was refused by the army due to medical reasons and had to join the Home Guard sadly receiving so much abuse from ignorant locals that he never really recovered and felt a failure for the rest of his life.
The situation for footballers probably wasn’t helped by Bolton Wanderers players enlisting almost en masse, so it feels like these pictures were deliberately taken to show they were a legitimate part of the war effort. That said, it seems some players (including Matt Busby, Joe Mercer and Swift) took advantage of becoming an army physical trainer at Aldershot so never went abroad in action, although Swift did end up in the RAF in France according to Wiki. Plus the government did see the benefit of having football still played to give the population a distraction.
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Football and the Second World War
Football and the Second World War. Last updated: 28th December, 2024spartacus-educational.com
Maybe some players WERE conscientious objectors or just got lucky, difficult to say. I also read somewhere that some players DID fail the army medical too!