A disgraceful undermining of the Ticket Points system - again

[jrb]

I am a member of an OSC but I got my ticket on day 1 with my own points as I wanted to sit with F&F , I was surprised it allowed OSC members choose seats as previously they were allocated in blocks and were not the cheapest .

That is correct, hence why I normally get my own seat if I go to Wembley. Obviously something changed this season agreed between the club and the OSC.

 

[meeesh]

Lifes not fair my friend ,in my experience ,the more u swim against the tide ,the harder it becomes!

On the whole the OSC do a fantastic job and should be applauded for all their hard unpaid work .

If u want to wait around and wait until the official channel says u can apply then u are probably going to miss out !

It’s all ways been ‘every man for himself ! Especially for the big games !’


I didn’t see or hear all this shit about tickets when we was playing Swansea away ?

It’s a football ground ! Not the Pentagon !
Those that ‘ really want to attend ‘ will always find a way ?


The list of ‘excuses ‘ I have read on here ,especially in the semi final thread for not going , is in the main ‘ embarrassing!’

Now we’re in final the ‘entitlement’ is equally hilarious

Problem is though mate and I’m sure you might agree, there’s 60/70% of posters on here never go to any games home or away

 

[Blue2112]

Did anyone pissed off with the SC allocation for the final actually bother going to the semi last week? Just asking

Yes I did, im on all the cup schemes and went to every round and yet ive got to sit and wait until Tuesday whilst others who didn't have already got their tickets. It's not difficult at all how to sell the the tickets. Cup scheme first, the OSC can be guaranteed what they ask for after this and then season ticket holders not on the cup scheme allocated by points. I don't know why or how the club make it more complicated when it just doesn't need to be.

 

[Chappie]

As Cheadle_hulmeBlue has posted, for the sake of repeating it again, nobody is moaning or has moaned about the people who run the branches, the branch secretaries, and the people who help the secretaries.

Our branch has a fantastic branch secretary. You honestly couldn’t meet a nicer person. He’s dedicated to his branch secretary job on top of his full-time job, which he probably has. The amount of hours, work, and effort he puts into running the branch is unreal. All the branch members appreciate that and appreciate him. We all like him as a person. Our branch has a FB page that is updated on a regular basis by him. Our branch secretary always replies to you if you WhattsApp him. The meetings every two weeks are run in a serious, but light hearted way, as we get through all the topics that needs to be discussed and sorted out. Apart from all of that our branch secretary is a normal City fan who does the away trips, has a laugh, has a drink, and supports the team, like we all do.

Hopefully I’ll get a free pint off him on Monday after this glowing post about him. ;-)

You have been very lucky to have 2 secretaries over the last 20 years that bleed blue blood.

 

[jrb]

You have been very lucky to have 2 secretaries over the last 20 years that bleed blue blood.

You’re correct

We have.

And we appreciate them both.

Tommy and Pete.

RIP Tommy.

 

[Roachy]

Yes I did, im on all the cup schemes and went to every round and yet ive got to sit and wait until Tuesday whilst others who didn't have already got their tickets. It's not difficult at all how to sell the the tickets. Cup scheme first, the OSC can be guaranteed what they ask for after this and then season ticket holders not on the cup scheme allocated by points. I don't know why or how the club make it more complicated when it just doesn't need to be.

So OSC after Cup scheme members but before ST holders?

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Fuck our loyalty point system. There's currently a party of about 100 united fans in full rag gear in our souvenir shop and taking photos infront of out statues.
What ever has happened to football?

I have a suspicion that they aren’t real rag fans. A real one wouldn’t be seen dead in our souvenir shop. In the mid 90’s my boss unfortunately was a rag who typically lived down south and had barely set foot in the dump. I can’t even remember why he supported them when he lived in South London. At the time I worked in offices overlooking Lancs cricket and he asked me if I could, in my lunch hour, pop to the rags souvenir shop to buy his young son a replica top. I refused point blank.

 

[BillCarlisle]

My way of thinking is "OK, the branch got the full allocation, but only those who qualify to purchase a ticket can do so as of now."
Those who don't qualify to purchase a ticket as of now still have the ticket, but they cannot actually buy it until a set date, meaning they most likely will end up having to buy a more expensive ticket. And how the fuck can they complain about that!

I see where you are coming from but personally I think that would be awkward to manage. Like many other Branches our committee are all working guys who already put in enough time and effort in running the Branch as it is. The ticketing system at City should IMHO reserve tickets in supporter accounts which can only be actually purchased at the time they meet the appropriate window criteria. On this occasion tickets were shown as reserved and able to select & purchase at 10am last Friday. I'm not complaining about my own seat as I was lucky enough to get one where I wanted although I couldn't do so until 4pm. There will be plenty of fellow Cup Scheme Season Ticket Blues who will be feeling pretty pissed off about the lack of choice they had and where they've ended up.
No matter how we dress it up this is a problem of City's making.

 

[Blue2112]

So OSC after Cup scheme members but before ST holders?

Personally in my opinion id have season ticket holders before but i edited it out of my original post as I thought the OSC might pile on that they need to be guaranteed fill their coaches or what not.

 

[Francis Crawford]

Carabao Cuo final.
FA Cup semi-final.
FA Cup Final.
Burnley away.
Everton away.
Bournemouth away.

People aren’t made of money, especially during the current economic situation where everyday cost of living prices for everything are spiralling out of control due the US & Iran war, amongst other factors.

Fine ,accept that , if u cannot literally afford it ,don’t go ?
Just don’t see the need for people to come on here telling everyone else about it and using the place as some kind of free ‘betty ford clinic !’

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

People on the cup scheme already pay for the tickets (home game that is) regardless of whether they attend the games or not. Hence, they should be given priority as it currently stands.

You're right. I'd forgotten that being on the cup scheme means your ticket is automatically assigned to you, and payment taken in the earlier rounds.

But if people on the scheme don't attend then that's a different matter in my opinion

 

[CleverDickson]

Lets set this straight a bit.

The other side of this coin is the points hoarders who bought away tickets from when the points system was introduced with no intention of going to games. 23 years ago I was in no financial position to do so (was just a kid). I’m also too old to buy in that 18-25 allocation. From that angle, I’m completely screwed for tickets for big games.

Except I’m not…

I am a OSC member (and ST holder on and off since 1997) in a far-flung part of the UK and have had away and final tickets, including Istanbul, with less than 2000 loyalty points to my name. I don’t feel a shred of guilt. Think of your loyalty points as Tesco Clubcard points - nice to have but not the only route to vouchers for the Channel Tunnel. I know corporate season ticket holders who get first dibs on any game - good on them, they’ve been successful in life, why should they queue behind the great unwashed?

Life is about who you know, not what you know. If your only route to games is your Clubcard points, you’ve failed in life to a degree and will get trampled on in the scramble for tickets. Long may that continue - I hope the club ignore this noise from fan groups.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Lets set this straight a bit.

The other side of this coin is the points hoarders who bought away tickets from when the points system was introduced with no intention of going to games. 23 years ago I was in no financial position to do so (was just a kid). I’m also too old to buy in that 18-25 allocation. From that angle, I’m completely screwed for tickets for big games.

Except I’m not…

I am a OSC member (and ST holder on and off since 1997) in a far-flung part of the UK and have had away and final tickets, including Istanbul, with less than 2000 loyalty points to my name. I don’t feel a shred of guilt. Think of your loyalty points as Tesco Clubcard points - nice to have but not the only route to vouchers for the Channel Tunnel. I know corporate season ticket holders who get first dibs on any game - good on them, they’ve been successful in life, why should they queue behind the great unwashed?

Life is about who you know, not what you know. If your only route to games is your Clubcard points, you’ve failed in life to a degree and will get trampled on in the scramble for tickets. Long may that continue - I hope the club ignore this noise from fan groups.

Nice rant but no one is saying that OSC members shouldn't get tickets. I actually support OSCs getting tickets as it democratises the ticket allocation process to a degree and means it's not just the same people getting them all the time. But that's not what people are complaining about here.

 

[Corky]

Lets set this straight a bit.

The other side of this coin is the points hoarders who bought away tickets from when the points system was introduced with no intention of going to games. 23 years ago I was in no financial position to do so (was just a kid). I’m also too old to buy in that 18-25 allocation. From that angle, I’m completely screwed for tickets for big games.

Except I’m not…

I am a OSC member (and ST holder on and off since 1997) in a far-flung part of the UK and have had away and final tickets, including Istanbul, with less than 2000 loyalty points to my name. I don’t feel a shred of guilt. Think of your loyalty points as Tesco Clubcard points - nice to have but not the only route to vouchers for the Channel Tunnel. I know corporate season ticket holders who get first dibs on any game - good on them, they’ve been successful in life, would should they queue behind the great unwashed?

Life is about who you know, not what you know. If your only route to games is your Clubcard points, you’ve failed in life to a degree and will get trampled on in the scramble for tickets. Long may that continue - I hope the club ignore this noise from fan groups.

You can't afford a season ticket yet everyone else has failed. Need to do better in you wind up attempts.

 

[CleverDickson]

You can't afford a season ticket yet everyone else has failed. Need to do better in you wind up attempts.

I couldn’t afford one 23 years ago when the points hoarding started, I can more than afford one now and have had one for 4 seasons (the ones I had in the late 90s and early 00s were kids season tickets paid for by parents when the club practically gave them away for pennies)

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Lifes not fair my friend ,in my experience ,the more u swim against the tide ,the harder it becomes!

On the whole the OSC do a fantastic job and should be applauded for all their hard unpaid work .

If u want to wait around and wait until the official channel says u can apply then u are probably going to miss out !

It’s all ways been ‘every man for himself ! Especially for the big games !’


I didn’t see or hear all this shit about tickets when we was playing Swansea away ?

It’s a football ground ! Not the Pentagon !
Those that ‘ really want to attend ‘ will always find a way ?


The list of ‘excuses ‘ I have read on here ,especially in the semi final thread for not going , is in the main ‘ embarrassing!’

Now we’re in final the ‘entitlement’ is equally hilarious

So if somethings clearly not right/ unfair you just accept it? This is the entirely on the club and is something that can be changed.

I haven’t seen any entitlement from the posters asking these reasonable questions. Why should the OSC be entitled to final tickets for members who don’t attend games?

If the ticket policy worked properly this wouldn’t be an issue and fans wouldn’t miss out

 

[CΛL]

Lets set this straight a bit.

The other side of this coin is the points hoarders who bought away tickets from when the points system was introduced with no intention of going to games. 23 years ago I was in no financial position to do so (was just a kid). I’m also too old to buy in that 18-25 allocation. From that angle, I’m completely screwed for tickets for big games.

Except I’m not…

I am a OSC member (and ST holder on and off since 1997) in a far-flung part of the UK and have had away and final tickets, including Istanbul, with less than 2000 loyalty points to my name. I don’t feel a shred of guilt. Think of your loyalty points as Tesco Clubcard points - nice to have but not the only route to vouchers for the Channel Tunnel. I know corporate season ticket holders who get first dibs on any game - good on them, they’ve been successful in life, why should they queue behind the great unwashed?

Life is about who you know, not what you know. If your only route to games is your Clubcard points, you’ve failed in life to a degree and will get trampled on in the scramble for tickets. Long may that continue - I hope the club ignore this noise from fan groups.

Struggling to see how any of this petit bourgeois spiel is relevant to the problem being discussed lmao

 

[Corky]

I couldn’t afford one 23 years ago when the points hoarding started, I can more than afford one now and have had one for 4 seasons (the ones I had in the late 90s and early 00s were kids season tickets paid for by parents when the club practically gave them away for pennies)

23 years ago when the points system started people already had 2k points, before it started work that one out.

It was 10 points a game and some were £40, half sunsold allocations and people who bought went.

You would still get 1,500 points on a kids one when the system started, yet don't have 2k yet. Seems very hard to believe.

 

[Roachy]

Struggling to see how any of this petit bourgeois spiel is relevant to the problem being discussed lmao

There was always going to be a response from those advocating their support of the circumstances that have lead to this issue. Comedy gold in abundance.

 

[johnnytapia]

I absolutely see that point of what you're saying. My view has always been that people not on the Cup scheme, but who've bought tickets and attended early round games, should get priority even over those on the scheme who haven't been to earlier games.

The problem is that you can get very granular here and create other issues around priority. Maybe the answer is to drop the cup schemes altogether but give ST holders a window to buy their own seats for home cup games.

Part of the appeal of being in the cup scheme is knowing you don’t have to fuck about logging on / purchasing for every home cup tie. I’m in all the schemes and go to every game. No fannying around - sign up and know I’ve got my seat for every game.