Everton (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

[Coatigan]

I explained it. Arsenal needed to win at West Ham and they still fucking do, do they not?

No, now they can draw and still end up with the title.

No matter what we do now, we aren't in control of it though. Not unless they drop points.

 

[chaddblue]

Everton fans on the train after moaning about the ref giving city every decision

Thought I was hearing things

 

[Vic]

Does Guehi pass it back to Donnarumma if Barry isn't pressing him from an offside position? No? Then he's interfering with play and it's offside.

Barry wasn't pressing Guehi. Guehi just passed the ball to him.

 

[Lee the Blue]

What were people’s thoughts on the new stadium

I was sat in block 118 level with the edge of the 6 yard box and the sight lines towards the nearside corner at the other end were terrible.

It is like a big Kingpower as others have said. Better than Goodison but the location means it's a long hike unless you plan a military style operation to get away - we did and booked a spot on someone's driveway half a mile away - whilst the concourse is cramped, food/beer prices eye watering, and the bogs small for a stadium that size as well.

2nd tier behind the goal to our right is bizarrely small as well and doesn't seem to match the rest of the ground. I'd wager the higher up you are, the better the views. They still play Z Cars as the teams come out which is a nod to history and the toffee woman was still knocking about.

Oh and the PA is the effin loudest thing I've ever heard in any ground. Sounds like an airport terminal.

 

[Vic]

The thread would be a lot shorter if people knew the offside law.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

And the team that plays in that new stadium plays the same thuggery that they played under Moyes at Goodison Park.

 

[Jimmieblue]

And the team that plays in that new stadium plays the same thuggery that they played under Moyes at Goodison Park.

We are being reffed differently, nobody will convince me otherwise.

 

[PistonBlue]

I'm sure I feel like City fans the world over.
Fucking gutted at this result. We've blown it, against a shit team we should blow away on paper. Pep said we have to win every game till the end of the season. Yet some players didn't look up for it.
Well played Doku.

Totally pissed off.

IF we’ve blown it (I remain hopeful until it’s impossible) then it wasn’t last night alone. There have been a few performances like that throughout the season. Too slow and not clinical enough in attack, sloppy and chaotic in midfield and defence. Unforced errors, slipping all over the place (wtf was going on there, I didn’t notice their players doing it?) All of our own doing unfortunately, again.

 

[oldius]

We are a team in transition and we have won one cup, we are in the final of another, and we are in second place in the league. For any team in the division, that would be an insane achievement. For us, it isn't, for we have come to expect so much. It is not over, but the reality is that we have not been the best team in the league this season, and most of us didn't expect that we would be. There are excellent signs of some serious talent in the squad, but not taking chances while conceding goals too easily has been the hallmark of different points in the season and this was also true last night. You cannot legislate for the individual errors that brought Everton back into the game, but we didn't stand up to their more aggressive press and allowed them to create too many turnovers in a 15 minute period that led to the game slipping away.

On we go to complete what could be an excellent season, or an outrageously good one.

 

[blue whippet]

I don’t get why you all think all London clubs hate each other.

As someone who lives reasonably close by and knows a lot of fans of London clubs believe me when I say palace couldn’t care less about Arsenal (palace aren’t even based in London).

I kept reading about Fulham being a derby for Arsenal. Again that wasn’t a derby.

Arsenals derby is Tottenham and they have a rivalry with Chelsea. The other London sides don’t really have any sort of rivalry with Arsenal tbh

I remember years ago Arsene Wenger saying it was harder for a London team than a Northern one to win the league due to all the derbies they had to play. I was bemused by that comment and thought it showed a lack of understanding of English football and history. Manchester - liverpool or Lancashire - Yorkshire are far more fierce than anything london produces for a myriad of reasons.
I used to have a work colleague who worked as a steward for both City and utd. He said the worst games were the Lancashire - Yorkshire clashes.

 

[kinggoat64]

Barry wasn't pressing Guehi. Guehi just passed the ball to him.

I know what the law says but how being offside like barry was gains him an unfair advantage some football laws are ridiculous plus the ref was wank and that's not be being biased

 

[ysmsa]

You stayed to the end did you?

No, I didn't go.

But if I was lucky enough to secure a hard to get away ticket for a game 30 miles away I would have.

 

[Bluemoon has risen]

Last night just shows the team is still in a rebuild. The pieces arent fully there and performances like that happen.

That 2nd half, my word absolutely awful. Midfield bypassed time and time again, the defence making schoolboy errors. Nunes has improved alot but he's still got a bozo moment in him. Guehi the worst game I've seen from him. I can forgive it from Khusanov and O'Reilly a bit more given their in experience and age, but you expect alot from from the other two.

Nico G, some fans on twitter genuinely believe we've been a better team with him in it than Rodri. He went missing 2nd half, far too easy to bypass him and we were better when Kovacic came on. Half of those attacks dont happen with Rodri there.

Thank god Doku was good and he kept going at Everton all evening, as I think he's just about kept us in the title race, even if it is a very small chance now. Were relying on West Ham to do us a big favour as I cant see the other two getting anything against Arsenal.

 

[kinggoat64]

We are a team in transition and we have won one cup, we are in the final of another, and we are in second place in the league. For any team in the division, that would be an insane achievement. For us, it isn't, for we have come to expect so much. It is not over, but the reality is that we have not been the best team in the league this season, and most of us didn't expect that we would be. There are excellent signs of some serious talent in the squad, but not taking chances while conceding goals too easily has been the hallmark of different points in the season and this was also true last night. You cannot legislate for the individual errors that brought Everton back into the game, but we didn't stand up to their more aggressive press and allowed them to create too many turnovers in a 15 minute period that led to the game slipping away.

On we go to complete what could be an excellent season, or an outrageously good one.

Excellent post

 

[Kamikaze Blue]

Missed opportunity. We really should have won that. I’ve honestly never thought we were going to win it this year. Tbh it’s a miracle we’re even in with a shout given some of the results earlier in the season.

 

[Dial M 4 Mercer]

Last night just shows the team is still in a rebuild. The pieces are fully there and performances like that happen.

That 2nd half, my word absolutely awful. Midfield bypassed time and time again, the defence making schoolboy errors. Nunes has improved alot but he's still got a bozo moment in him. Guehi the worst game I've seen from him. I can forgive it from Khusanov and O'Reilly a bit more given their in experience and age, but you expect alot from from the other two.

Nico G, some fans on twitter genuinely believe we've been a better team with him in it than Rodri. He went missing 2nd half, far too easy to bypass him and we were better when Kovacic came on. Half of those attacks dont happen with Rodri there.

Thank god Doku was good and he kept going at Everton all evening, as I think he's just about kept us in the title race, even if it is a very small chance now. We’re relying on West Ham to do us a big favour as I cant see the other two getting anything against Arsenal.

Our midfield being bypassed has always been our Achilles heel to a greater or lesser extent. We need a top level holding midfielder in the summer.

 

[ysmsa]

Much as we hate Fernandez he would have been round that referee after every foul last night.

In our kit he would have been booked twice and off.

 

[ysmsa]

I was sat in block 118 level with the edge of the 6 yard box and the sight lines towards the nearside corner at the other end were terrible.

It is like a big Kingpower as others have said. Better than Goodison but the location means it's a long hike unless you plan a military style operation to get away - we did and booked a spot on someone's driveway half a mile away - whilst the concourse is cramped, food/beer prices eye watering, and the bogs small for a stadium that size as well.

2nd tier behind the goal to our right is bizarrely small as well and doesn't seem to match the rest of the ground. I'd wager the higher up you are, the better the views. They still play Z Cars as the teams come out which is a nod to history and the toffee woman was still knocking about.

Oh and the PA is the effin loudest thing I've ever heard in any ground. Sounds like an airport terminal.

You were sat with VAR then?

That PA was booming out on the tele, safety procedure this and that!

 

[skillman]

I just can’t bring myself to be optimistic and see the positives to last night - aside that the last minute goal MIGHT mean something in the end.

We should be going for the jugular against teams like Everton regardless but especially more so when we could do with boosting the goal difference.

If the premise of not going at them is that we control the game instead and kill it - that doesn’t work. Much rather us concede chances as long as we’re trying down the other end to score goals rather than conceding them while still playing shit, slow football. But maybe that’s just me.

Infuriates me that we needed 2 goals in 10 minutes and what do we do? Go and get the 2 goals by driving forward, pinning Everton down and playing forward with pace, urgency and dynamism. And that’s against a side happier to sit back than they would be at 0-0/1-0 down.

So why not do that to get 2/3 goals up early on and then control?

Winds me up.

 

[paulchapo]

We are a team in transition and we have won one cup, we are in the final of another, and we are in second place in the league. For any team in the division, that would be an insane achievement. For us, it isn't, for we have come to expect so much. It is not over, but the reality is that we have not been the best team in the league this season, and most of us didn't expect that we would be. There are excellent signs of some serious talent in the squad, but not taking chances while conceding goals too easily has been the hallmark of different points in the season and this was also true last night. You cannot legislate for the individual errors that brought Everton back into the game, but we didn't stand up to their more aggressive press and allowed them to create too many turnovers in a 15 minute period that led to the game slipping away.

On we go to complete what could be an excellent season, or an outrageously good one.

Well done that's an excellent post which when emotions and the disappointment about last night's result start to fade is probably deep down how we all feel.

I'll also add that if we want to get back to the very highest level once more, maybe it's also highlighted that a decent a job as some players have done, we probably need higher quality in certain areas and these players then drop down to being excellent squad players. Finding and acquiring those players is of course another matter.