A disgraceful undermining of the Ticket Points system - again

This deserves its own thread because it's an absolute disgrace and needs calling out properly.

It's become clear this morning that Supporters Club members were given the exact same booking window as those sitting on 20k+ loyalty points and members of the Cup Scheme. Let that sink in. Fans in some cases without season tickets, who have atttended a grand total of one game this season, the League Cup Final, were given their choice of ANY SEAT at the same time as supporters who have grafted for years, gone to every cup tie and shelled out god knows how much to get into this position. The £80 seats in the lower tier have all gone in the first window because of this, leaving those on 15 - 20k points to pay £125 if they want to be in the lower tier.

I respect the supporters clubs and I understand how great they have been for the clubs following and I understand that lots of SC members would qualify in their own right HOWEVER it is not right that a member not on the cup scheme, or even without a ST can jump the queue. I know for a fact that a lot of OSC members only apply for finals & big home games. Do they really deserve their pick of any ticket over someone on 19k points who's been to every cup home game for years? This is the first time this has happened I believe for a final, supporters club usually select a category and they get what they are given. That system was still not ideal, but felt slightly fairer.

What is the point of the Cup Scheme any more? The whole structure of how this club allocates tickets to its most loyal supporters has been completely undermined & while we're at it, the 1894 Group once again ringfenced the "cheaper" £80 seats at the front of the stand. For the group whose purpose is supposedly generating atmosphere. Every single person who has ever set foot in a football ground in their life knows full well that the atmosphere is built from the back of the stand, not pitchside.

& I'm not even going to get started on corporate allocations.

Brilliant work all round.

I'm fuming about this and so is every loyal match going supporter I've spoken to this morning. The club needs to explain itself.
exactly what i was talking about on my deleted forum post how can lads in their 20s be getting away tickets every game and i don't qualify after having a season ticket for longer then they have been alive????????????
 
exactly what i was talking about on my deleted forum post how can lads in their 20s be getting away tickets every game and i don't qualify after having a season ticket for longer then they have been alive????????????
I think there's a separate allocation for 18-24-year olds.
 
Any update on the Norway and Denmark OSC and how many of them will be losing their season tickets for next season ?

They have to attend 10 in person which is difficult to do from Scandinavia.

If they are not meeting this criteria they will be getting their season tickets took off them.

If they are on roughly the same number of season tickets as last season this means a deal was done - which was denied last summer.

Which means OSC members would be getting preferential treatment to non OSC members many of whom have had to plead their case to the club about why they should not lose their season tickets.
 
Any update on the Norway and Denmark OSC and how many of them will be losing their season tickets for next season ?

They have to attend 10 in person which is difficult to do from Scandinavia.

If they are not meeting this criteria they will be getting their season tickets took off them.

If they are on roughly the same number of season tickets as last season this means a deal was done - which was denied last summer.

Which means OSC members would be getting preferential treatment to non OSC members many of whom have had to plead their case to the club about why they should not lose their season tickets.
Yep that branch that pays thousands into the OSC each year also.
 
Yep that branch that pays thousands into the OSC each year also.
Paid over 20k to good causes in the Manchester area last year, including CITC and Maine Road FC.

Why won’t you do a little bit of research??

I know a couple of their Committee members who I think will reach the ten game attendance requirement.

Btw Esme Morgan managed to get back into the Etihad OK
 
just continuing from my previous post when i suggested the following, A simple solution which would have been fairer and more reflective would be allow supporters clubs their 20% but rather than let them access all tickets, allocate them pro rata all price categories of tickets so they equally get saddled with expensive tickets.

I would ensure each branch got a cross section off all the price bands for wembley, not one branch gets 50 pound tickets etc, each branch gets pro rata their successful application, the onus would then be on the branch to ensure that they allocated the tickets in a fashion that rewarded their loyal supporters and denied those who fancy a big day out at wembley the option of just blagging the cheapest/best seats. Problem Solved.
 
Any thoughts on the abovenamed branches @Tim of the Oak? Genuine question btw.
I can assure you that Didsbury do not get a large allocation for normal league away matches.
And as such they have hardly run any coaches to away matches.
They along with Northenden have had to come on our coach .
I cant speak for the other branches that have been mentioned
 
Paid over 20k to good causes in the Manchester area last year, including CITC and Maine Road FC.

Why won’t you do a little bit of research??

I know a couple of their Committee members who I think will reach the ten game attendance requirement.

Btw Esme Morgan managed to get back into the Etihad OK
What has their charitable donations got to do with anything, that’s a smokescreen comment.

If they have circa 70 season tickets and those season ticket holders aren’t flying in each game (which they won’t be) then they lose their tickets.

If they all have their tickets next season then something will be up.

A couple will have reached the criteria… what about the other 68 !
 
What has their charitable donations got to do with anything, that’s a smokescreen comment.

If they have circa 70 season tickets and those season ticket holders aren’t flying in each game (which they won’t be) then they lose their tickets.

If they all have their tickets next season then something will be up.

A couple will have reached the criteria… what about the other 68 !
Yku brought up donations you hypocrite

And while you are talking about smokescreens try going to a few games. Plus stop pretending you are an attack dog for 1894. I
 
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Any update on the Norway and Denmark OSC and how many of them will be losing their season tickets for next season ?

They have to attend 10 in person which is difficult to do from Scandinavia.

If they are not meeting this criteria they will be getting their season tickets took off them.

If they are on roughly the same number of season tickets as last season this means a deal was done - which was denied last summer.

Which means OSC members would be getting preferential treatment to non OSC members many of whom have had to plead their case to the club about why they should not lose their season tickets.
I think their tickets are in the name of the branch, rather than each individual having their own. But whether they're individual or collective, the same criteria should apply - in-person attendance for a minimum of 10 games and used (either by attendance, transfer or listing) for a minimum of 16 games.
 
I've had a season ticket for 10 years and have been on all three cup schemes throughout that time. I've been to 90% of the Wembley games including the semi finals and Community Shields. Haven't quite reached 5000 points so my ticket window opens at 1 today.

I've already decided to sack off the Euro cup scheme because 4 home games at group stage with no real jeopardy at random times of the season isn't working for me.

The domestic cup schemes are painful because I'm South Stand L1 and we invariably get kicked to the standing tier (if I wanted to stand then I'd have bought an L0 season ticket). And it's 30 minutes on the phone within a 3 hour window if I wanted to change the allocated "seat".

Upshot is, if I get onto the site today and the only tickets left are £125, then next year will be the first season in a decade where I won't be on any of the cup schemes. I'll still go to a lot of the matches but it will be by choice every time.

This kind of mood CANNOT be good for the club, especially with an extra 7000 seats to fill.
 
Just in response to a couple of people who have asked why , my take is its easier for the club.

They get to shift the bulk of tickets PDQ

I dont think its any deeper than that , not saying its right but i reckon thats it
Could well be but I'm not sure why they'd do it for the FA Cup Final which always sells out anyway

I've no idea why the process has changed for OSCs with regards cup final tickets but people have a right to be frustrated that non-ST holders can buy tickets before the vast majority of ST holders, including many who are on the cup scheme. And I say that as someone whose mate isn't a ST holder but is a member of an OSC branch and was able to buy his at 10am on Friday morning

Ultimately it's the club's decision to allow it, not the OSC, so I think it's correct that the Trust have taken this up directly with the club
 
Could well be but I'm not sure why they'd do it for the FA Cup Final which always sells out anyway

I've no idea why the process has changed for OSCs with regards cup final tickets but people have a right to be frustrated that non-ST holders can buy tickets before the vast majority of ST holders, including many who are on the cup scheme. And I say that as someone whose mate isn't a ST holder but is a member of an OSC branch and was able to buy his at 10am on Friday morning

Ultimately it's the club's decision to allow it, not the OSC, so I think it's correct that the Trust have taken this up directly with the club
It was all about lack of time mate and staffing.. Only. 3 weeks between the semi and rfinal and one dedicated ticket office person, compared to 3 a few years ago. I guess they also wanted fast sales.

Some members prefer the previous system where we got to stand / sit together and we accepted the ticket band we were given
 
It was all about lack of time mate and staffing.. Only. 3 weeks between the semi and rfinal and one dedicated ticket office person, compared to 3 a few years ago. I guess they also wanted fast sales.

Some members prefer the previous system where we got to stand / sit together and we accepted the ticket band we were given
I could be wrong but I thought they did the same thing for the League Cup Final though as well?
 
just continuing from my previous post when i suggested the following, A simple solution which would have been fairer and more reflective would be allow supporters clubs their 20% but rather than let them access all tickets, allocate them pro rata all price categories of tickets so they equally get saddled with expensive tickets.

I would ensure each branch got a cross section off all the price bands for wembley, not one branch gets 50 pound tickets etc, each branch gets pro rata their successful application, the onus would then be on the branch to ensure that they allocated the tickets in a fashion that rewarded their loyal supporters and denied those who fancy a big day out at wembley the option of just blagging the cheapest/best seats. Problem Solved.
I agree with this and it's probably close to what I would have suggested.
 
I could be wrong but I thought they did the same thing for the League Cup Final though as well?
They did it for either the League Cup final or FA semi final when again time was short. Still unfair on cup scheme members though
 
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TBH it's not on for volunteer Branch officials to be put in that situation. (I'm not one BTW).
Maybe the OSC themselves could have refused these applications ?
This entire issue would not have arisen if City had applied a bit of common sense along with the application of their own T&C's. At the end of the day this has been a shit show by whoever signed it off.
Agree. The problem started with the club
 
Yku brought up donations you hypocrite

And while you are talking about smokescreens try going to a few games. Plus stop pretending you are an attack dog for 1894. I did some inquiries and nobody in our atmosphere group had heard of you.
Probably because I’m from the north west and not Yorkshire. And I’ve been going since the early 70s not that it’s any business of yours.

I’ll also say what I want.

I don’t need your permission to speak and as for an attack dog , no one tells me what to say or do- unlike you ??
 

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