Local Elections | Thu 7 May 26

Only far right grifter politicians lie? Where have you been all your life:-)
Only Reform (and the Greens) are being voted for because people are 'fed up with Labour and the Tories' and expecting something better. You don't think those voters will be disappointed when they realise that Reform councillors are not only just the same, but arguably worse?
 
At 63 it feels like the country has extinguished Blue Peter and Magpie and replaced it with Tiswas and Banana Splitz , crazy, toxic time with lifelong labour voters voting for lord haw haw and impressionable optimists for a party in dreamland and with toxic internal diferences once closer to power.
You can just fuck off I loved both TISWAS and the Banana Splits.
 
I ignore these local elections! just because elections are in 3 years and it be back to the two main groups as always! Things change so so quickly in politics!
...and yet remain depressingly the same
 
Unpopular view but genuinely have some sympathy for Starmer because a lot of it feels related to immigration issues. Him and Mahmood have actually passed legitmate legislation to stem the numbers but the horse has bolted. Some of the individuals who oversaw it all are now not only in opposition, but Reform itself.
A massive part of Reform’s campaigning over the last few years was the disguised Afghan migration that saw thousands of migrants snuck into the country, a handful then went on to commit serious crimes.

The Tory that oversaw it is Jenrick. Now of Reform.

Make that make sense.
 
There will be the obvious inquest and hand-wringing in government over the weekend and no doubt another “reset”.

But most of these factors are largely beyond their immediate control.

This country and these election results would’ve been pretty much exactly the same had Sunak won. That general election was a poisoned chalice regardless.
 
Opinions Opinions and Opinions, I for one don’t see an answer, the country has spiralled downwards and no one party has the answer.You my have hated Maggie or loved her it does not really matter but at least she grabbed things by the balls and delivered rightly or wrongly I don’t see any of that in our current leaders
Hmm I could give an extremely convincing argument for why selling off all the UKs assets for short term electorate bribes has not been particularly beneficial to our economy over the last 25 years

But another way of looking at it is she grabbed things by the balls

Shame that grabbing now means 90%of our essential services are owned by France America and China still life goes on

Can’t wait due the countries balls to be grabbed again by Nigel
 
There will be the obvious inquest and hand-wringing in government over the weekend and no doubt another “reset”.

But most of these factors are largely beyond their immediate control.

This country and these election results would’ve been pretty much exactly the same had Sunak won. That general election was a poisoned chalice regardless.

Quite - favouring screeching and superficial coverage.

I'm looking forward to seeing how many time Chris Mason et al mention "Starmer in trouble". I assume that there is a polymarket on it.
 
People have had enough of Labour and the conservatives. Lots of Areas with both in charge have declined massively over the years.

There are areas that vote Reform who have not declined and areas that have had investment who will vote Reform. It’s less about economics and more about identity and ‘feelings’. It’s emotion based. It was the same with Brexit which was an emotional appeal rather than an economic one given there was no economic rationale for Brexit.

Trump is similar. It’s based on emotion, the empowerment of being part of something that makes them ‘great again’ and the bonus of pissing off people they don’t like. The overt corruption by Trump and his family they do not care about, anymore than Reform voters care about Farage’s grifting or £5m bungs for services due.

Places like Blackpool are in the middle of a major investment in the town overseen by a Labour council and with Govt money. You think that would stop them voting Reform and kicking out the council overseeing the proposed regeneration? Course it wouldn’t.

So, what is the reward for politicians actually trying to improve lives and prospects or for an organisation like the EU pumping money into cities like Hull? Very little it seems. There is a distinction between politicians who try and improve lives and circumstances and sometimes make a pigs ear of it and those whose only intention is to rob the public blind and will happily sell out their country for cash.

Starmer or Sunak or May are politicians/leaders of varying competence, yet none of them would put their own financial gain and interests over their public duty. Farage would in a heartbeat and for me that matters.
 
Quite - favouring screeching and superficial coverage.

I'm looking forward to seeing how many time Chris Mason et al mention "Starmer in trouble". I assume that there is a polymarket on it.
Starmer is in trouble, nothing Chris Mason says makes it true or not true but if your a sitting Labour MP right now and want a job in a few years time you are considering your options
 
I agree I’m my experience I would say a good 30% are racist but that’s enough to put Reform in government which is frightening

There's actually plenty of data and research on this dating back decades. Broadly speaking somewhere between 15-20% in the UK hold racist views based on biology (less intelligent, weaker etc) and then when you take into account more cultural stuff and tropes (lazier, greedy, less clean etc) it roughly doubles so an anecdotal feeling of 30 something percent would match this.

At the moment I think we're most likely heading to a Reform government probably in coalition with the Tories. This will be despite them being much more usefuless in local government than the traditional parties (they already are noticeably more crap where I live). The people who think the electorate is going to magically come to it's senses at the next GE are imo sadly sticking their head in the sand.
 
This is very true, seen it first hand with parents and in-laws and also how it has massively changed their views. Mostly driven by fake news that I continuously have to debunk, which isn't very hard with a simple Internet search.

So you "continuously" "debunk" the "fake news" that retired people get from the Internet by using material that you find through "a simple Internet search" ?
 
Starmer is in trouble, nothing Chris Mason says makes it true or not true but if your a sitting Labour MP right now and want a job in a few years time you are considering your options

It could obviously be better, but there's no consensus replacement that will be better, and the next election is some time away. Those two things are in Starmer's favour.

Rayner, Milliband, Streeting - they all seem like very different stripes of people.
 
It could obviously be better, but there's no consensus replacement that will be better, and the next election is some time away. Those two things are in Starmer's favour.

Rayner, Milliband, Streeting - they all seem like very different stripes of people.
how would labour get Burnham in? quite the conundrum.
 

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