Should have been make uk great again it would be more accurate for reforms motives.“Surprised and overwhelmed, but at the same time not surprised” - new Tameside Reform councillor. Good luck to those of you living in Tameside with intellect like that on the council. Bellend wearing a “Make Britain Great Again” baseball cap was also a highlight in Tameside.
Pfft. Changing from fptp or scrapping the Lords is hardly ripping up the status quo.
Voting to ditch your industrial and foreign policy overnight with no idea with what to replace it with - now that’s ripping up the status quo. Ten years on and six Prime Ministers later - hell we may make it seven before the ten year anniversary - it’s been almost Shakespearian in a tragicomic way.
Our fate it seems is to become Italy without the weather or the food.
Been away from Tameside for near 30 years but all my family are there and I have moved 4 times within the area, even though being away. It’s not a very inviting area and always seem to shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to the big decisions.“Surprised and overwhelmed, but at the same time not surprised” - new Tameside Reform councillor. Good luck to those of you living in Tameside with intellect like that on the council. Bellend wearing a “Make Britain Great Again” baseball cap was also a highlight in Tameside.
Poland as you are aware along with other eastern European countries cannot compare in their development unlike Germany and France. Glad your posting a right wing led country who are strong on immigration controls though, score :-)
Liz Truss as you say lasted 2 mins, remainers are in charge of the country and have been for a while. You had almost half the country to start, you now have remainers in charge and apparently loads of brexit voters are remorseful. Yet your party wont commit to rejoining.
Leave it to the politicians you all said, its too complicated for mere mortals, adults in charge etc..... cuckoo.
Why you all didnt vote Lib Dems is beyond me, you blame it for everything but all remsiners didnt put in the party who wanted back in, would have been a landslide.
Still never hear any fucker outside of this forum mention Brexit so much, not even close.
Anyhow maybe your border less world will take off and anyone can just wander in.
You have to add mini market/vape selling shops to that list too.Same way most of the kebab houses and Turkish barbers are, there’s no fucker in them, no way they make the money they are declaring, it’s not rocket science.
I want to understand why someone would vote for Reform. I have members of my family that do, and some who even attend far-right marches. It is that I get upset by, but without discussion how can you even hope to influence someone? I love living where I live for the very reasons that you seem upset. I have found, personally, that embracing this diversity makes me happier.
As regards the comments about food stores being fronts for money-laundering, how do you know this?
But the electorate haven’t forgotten and those that voted leave are now voting in greater numbers for Reform.And yes, people do try to not talk about Brexit. It’s become a family shame and one, according to the polling, one we would rather forget ever happened. It has been filed away as peculiar British embarrassment it seems.
The majority of people around the world prefer their own way of life and their own culture and want it to be the dominating culture in the place they are native to. It’s not just Brits that feel that way, it’s everyone.
It’s naive to not expect people to panic when you put a country through the change we’ve gone through.
Can I ask, and mean this in the politest possible way, what is the change that you are looking for?A few are good but not one every other shop and with no fucker in them .I’ve always used them getting Hungarian food but let’s be honest most of them are fronts laundering money and whatever .
Yes ukraine their neighbours, a beacon of multiculturalism, bit like us scotland and Wales really, a small union I suppose. Not quite the same as our immigration policy over the last few decades at all. Dodged the right wing govt bit as well I note.Ah Poland. Home to some 1.5 million Ukrainian immigrants and refugees fleeing the war. Bless the Poles for coming to their neighbour’s aid. And bless the EU for giving Poland the opportunity to expand and grow their economy. In the name of the father, the son and the holy Donald Tusk. Amen.
Hey, don’t blame me for the polling. Google it. I just referenced its findings. Brexit regret, Brexit fatigue, the belief that they, the voters, were lied to (spoiler: they were). A sad and tawdry tale of embarrassment and resentment. It’s all there. Proper brings a tear to your eye. Admittedly one of laughter, but we all deal with loss in our own way.
And a borderless land. You mean like the UK? A federal territory comprising of four countries with no borders to restrict where you live, love, work and play? But wait, no, there is one Brexit gift, where we as a sovereign country, were obliged to impose a customs border within our own sovereign territory and (wait, there’s more) one country of our glorious, unbreakable union is subject to the economic jurisdiction of a foreign entity. No! Say it isn’t so! Surely no British Government would commit such a treasonous - oh wait. They did.
Still, I guess we could all vote Lib Dem because all ‘Remainers’ share an identical political makeup akin to some alien hive mind like an episode of Pluribus.
And yes, people do try to not talk about Brexit. It’s become a family shame and one, according to the polling, one we would rather forget ever happened. It has been filed away as peculiar British embarrassment it seems.
Sorry to jump in, but from my perspective you are more than welcome and are a valued member of our society.Can I ask, and mean this in the politest possible way, what is the change that you are looking for?
I ask this, as I'm an immigrant from Ireland and I can honestly say moving to England, Manchester now London, changed my life for the better. I have a job, I would never have had in Ireland, a wife I would never have met outside of the UK and lots of English friends who are amazing. My son is also born and bred here.
Contray to the shite stereotype of "Little Englander" the vast majority of English people i have met are kind, warm, open minded, respectful and a good laugh.
The worry for people like me is that we (immigrants) are ruining the place for the very people who have made the experience great. So what is it that would make immigration less of a touchpoint for you? I've been here since 2012, i would say comfortably it has been a political issue for a significant portion of the population for over 10 years now. But I honestly can't say i have heard or seen a party offer a sensible solution. Your point about Vape shops is fair, they look shit an are a fucking eye sore. But what party is offering a solution, what is the solution? What change is driving your vote?
My worry is Reform will unleash the worst impulses of society without offering a meaninful fix. Labour, who I voted for, are struggling to make meaningful change, while also periodically shooting themselves in the head. There tories are fucked. LD are a waste of space and the greens are lunatics.
Hasn't Brum got commissioners running it anyway?Yeah the last thing Birmingham needs now is instability or paralysis but that's probably what it's going to get.
Yes ukraine their neighbours, a beacon of multiculturalism, bit like us scotland and Wales really, a small union I suppose. Not quite the same as our immigration policy over the last few decades at all. Dodged the right wing govt bit as well I note.
You also ignore how I said the remainers on here keep on about the total disaster that they claim is Brexit. Such a disaster you now are saying there are other things to consider so thats why they didnt vote Lib Dem. Haha yeah your not gonna get away with that one.
Anyhow with your insistence that if little blighty can be borderless(hello Scottish Welsh and Irish independence) than why not the whole world. Only you seem keen really.
Your usual selective bad faith posting. Anyhow I believe that the no fair thread is floating about somewhere when you've finished with all the much more important stuff that made you all vote for a non rejoining party.
You're the right kind of immigrant that a certain mindset of people want though.Can I ask, and mean this in the politest possible way, what is the change that you are looking for?
I ask this, as I'm an immigrant from Ireland and I can honestly say moving to England, Manchester now London, changed my life for the better. I have a job, I would never have had in Ireland, a wife I would never have met outside of the UK and lots of English friends who are amazing. My son is also born and bred here.
Contray to the shite stereotype of "Little Englander" the vast majority of English people i have met are kind, warm, open minded, respectful and a good laugh.
The worry for people like me is that we (immigrants) are ruining the place for the very people who have made the experience great. So what is it that would make immigration less of a touchpoint for you? I've been here since 2012, i would say comfortably it has been a political issue for a significant portion of the population for over 10 years now. But I honestly can't say i have heard or seen a party offer a sensible solution. Your point about Vape shops is fair, they look shit an are a fucking eye sore. But what party is offering a solution, what is the solution? What change is driving your vote?
My worry is Reform will unleash the worst impulses of society without offering a meaninful fix. Labour, who I voted for, are struggling to make meaningful change, while also periodically shooting themselves in the head. There tories are fucked. LD are a waste of space and the greens are lunatics.
Criminal convictions are surely the basis on which to make a statement like most of the EU food stores are money-laundering operations.@oldius actually wants proof though, you know outside of these places actually being raided and on the news.
And what we see is that panic leading to people ignoring all evidence before them of someone's integrity, just as we have seen with Donald. This notion of socking it to the lefties, wokes, and snowflakes becomes more important than felony charges or accusations of £5m gifts, money-laundering, donations by sham companies, gas-chamber hissing, and so on. We are in a place where anger could lead to a terrible choice, IMO, and one where we have proof of abject failure across the pond, economically and socially, with a host of broken promises and violent retribution. We have seen the impact of Farage's lies already and I would hate us to experience more of it.The majority of people around the world prefer their own way of life and their own culture and want it to be the dominating culture in the place they are native to. It’s not just Brits that feel that way, it’s everyone.
It’s naive to not expect people to panic when you put a country through the change we’ve gone through.
It’s naive to not expect people to panic when you put a country through the change we’ve gone through.