Is the Premier League corrupt?

[mattcity5]

It isn't a new name on the trophy, that means a club who has never won it.

Plus the Clubs are in charge of the PL, as they own it.

I think it means every 6 years they want someone who hasn't won it in ages winning it. I don't think it's absolutely specific to 'never having won it before'. The thing is, they can't rig it for someone useless to win it - they have to be close first, so it limits the amount of teams it could be.

If it was Blackburn going for it, then they'd be a 'new' winner, but they're obviously way out of things.

It's so long since Arsenal have won it that they are practically a 'new' winner.

Reading between the lines, the PL definitely wants the league to not be a one or two horse race like most others are. Arsenal winning it is different, a lot of fans won't remember the last time they won it.

Now that united are halfway decent again, they could also be a new winner in a couple of years, with some help, obviously.

 

[chaddblue]

It isn't a new name on the trophy, that means a club who has never won it.

Plus the Clubs are in charge of the PL, as they own it.

You could (and probably should) interpet it as a name that hasn't been on the trophy in the previous 5 years

 

[TinFoilHat]

"Protect the brand"

The whole world is talking about the VAR decision yesterday. Anything that promotes the PL will be embraced. The league is being turned into WWE over sport as more US team take it over.

Other major major leagues have proved corruption. Italy has another potential Calcioopoli scandal on the horizon. Germany/Spain have had suspicious refereeing activity investigated in the past. Why anyone would think a multi billion pound product is squeaky clean is at best naive.

 

[ArniArason]

And yet we won it 4 times in a row.

You're missing the point I'm making. I am not trying to claim anyone is against us.

I am saying that it is strange that they would even have 'we will have different winners every 6 years' as part of their plan.

To have anything on a 'plan', it must be something you can deliver against, otherwise it's nothing more than a hope or desire. He said it is their strategic plan. So, they must have a set of actions to deliver that plan? I'd just be really interested to know what those deliverables could be.

A cinic might say that they could only include things like:

- stop owner investment if someone comes along with too much money
- try to sanction clubs who look like they may have a stronghold on the title
- change the rules if a club looks to have a stronghold on the league title
- ensure that there is influence on key season defining points, either during or outside of games.

But they wouldn't possibly do any of the above....

 

[TinFoilHat]

I think it means every 6 years they want someone who hasn't won it in ages winning it. I don't think it's absolutely specific to 'never having won it before'. The thing is, they can't rig it for someone useless to win it - they have to be close first, so it limits the amount of teams it could be.

If it was Blackburn going for it, then they'd be a 'new' winner, but they're obviously way out of things.

It's so long since Arsenal have won it that they are practically a 'new' winner.

Reading between the lines, the PL definitely wants the league to not be a one or two horse race like most others are. Arsenal winning it is different, a lot of fans won't remember the last time they won it.

Now that united are halfway decent again, they could also be a new winner in a couple of years, with some help, obviously.

Wouldn't surprise me if the rags are the chosen ones next season.

They are a big brand and it would benefit both organisations to see the cunts lift the trophy by hook or by crook.

 

[rm16]

There was that ref David Coote that got caught going on about Liverpool and Klopp wasn't there so they all have their own agendas and bias don't they. Must come through even if they don't deliberately do anything.

Most decisions when you watch in slow-motion can be argued both ways so if you're only looking at something from one side of the fence then thats what you see

 

[give it to gordon]

And yet we won it 4 times in a row.

As Pep days City won it on our own. Despite everyone being against City

 

[Callmev]

But fans of other clubs said it was corrupt against them and for us, and of course they did because they saw us winning it 4 seasons in a row.

The other fans can't see that FFP and 115 were directly against us because we shook the establishment.
I couldn't care less what they think/say to be honest.

 

[give it to gordon]

I mean how the hell did Leicester win the league ?
Their running stats went through the roof that season compared to the season before and after.
In any other sport doping would be raised, or a betting ring.
How did the pl ensure Leicester were the new name in the 6 year cycle ?

 

[Gazza]

I’m in the middle of watching a Netflix documentary of how an NBA referee talks about influencing games for financial gain through a third-party.

He also mentions how he knew certain other games would end certain ways because he knew the referee didn’t like a coach/player etc.

If somebody thinks that doesn’t happen in all walks of professional sport then I want whatever they’re on.

Is there any mileage in the magnets theory in the NBA, I don't watch it myself, but interested in what you think?

 

[Tomblue]

There is 100% bias and there is a grey area between there and corruption in my view. Whether they want to admit it or not us winning the title isn’t in their best interests and therefore there is the ability to influence the matches to some extent to ensure the best outcome for themselves if they so desired. It has happened in other leagues and continues to do so in my view.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Probably in some parts.

Fernandes goal against us at OT a few years ago was definitely suspicious.

I don't think yesterdays decision was corrupt. It was a foul, well actually two fouls on a goalkeeper. They need to iron out the issues regarding set pieces in the summer. Wrestling in the box was never this frequent until Arsenal's set piece coach started it.

 

[expatblue]

The Everton goal after the Khus backpass was worse for me, if that flag would have gone up like it should they anything that happened after it would have been null and void.

 

[ArniArason]

I mean how the hell did Leicester win the league ?
Their running stats went through the roof that season compared to the season before and after.
In any other sport doping would be raised, or a betting ring.
How did the pl ensure Leicester were the new name in the 6 year cycle ?

They spiked Vardy's redbull

 

[give it to gordon]

They spiked Vardy's redbull

You could be very close to the truth.

As someone who has watched alot of cycling it was clear Armstrong was doping. Same with Leicester something very fishy about them. Also dippers two seasons running like headless chickens to the 3rd season off and can hardly run.

Cycling, athletics etc this would be seen as dodgy as fuck

 

[N1985]

Think it's a mixture of corruption and the rules being that ridiculous now. Don't even think the corruption is against a particular team it's just where the money is going to on that particular day.

We need foreign refs to completely get rid of this "I'm a non league supporting ref bollocks"

We also need a complete shake up and clear transparency in the game

 

[jaiguruKun]

Watch Dermot Gallacher at 9.00am on Sky, for an insight.

The most pointless analyst in history. All he ever does is agree with whatever decision the ref and/or VAR makes.

He managed to find a way to say that Solanke's goal against us was correctly allowed and that Gabriel should not have been sent off for the headbutt on Haaland.

 

[Norbert D]

You're missing the point I'm making. I am not trying to claim anyone is against us.

I am saying that it is strange that they would even have 'we will have different winners every 6 years' as part of their plan.

To have anything on a 'plan', it must be something you can deliver against, otherwise it's nothing more than a hope or desire. He said it is their strategic plan. So, they must have a set of actions to deliver that plan? I'd just be really interested to know what those deliverables could be.

A cinic might say that they could only include things like:

- stop owner investment if someone comes along with too much money
- try to sanction clubs who look like they may have a stronghold on the title
- change the rules if a club looks to have a stronghold on the league title
- ensure that there is influence on key season defining points, either during or outside of games.

But they wouldn't possibly do any of the above....

Next thing someone will be saying the red cartel meet in a New York restaurant to stitch things up… what nonsense

 

[rm16]

Probably in some parts.

Fernandes goal against us at OT a few years ago was definitely suspicious.

I don't think yesterdays decision was corrupt. It was a foul, well actually two fouls on a goalkeeper. They need to iron out the issues regarding set pieces in the summer. Wrestling in the box was never this frequent until Arsenal's set piece coach started it.

Exactly, they need to make it even and stop holding or wrestling on both sides to make it consistent. Yesterday the foul on the keeper was there but also the Arsenal players were holding west ham players and plenty of teams have done that this season without getting goals taken away

 

[TinFoilHat]

I mean how the hell did Leicester win the league ?
Their running stats went through the roof that season compared to the season before and after.
In any other sport doping would be raised, or a betting ring.
How did the pl ensure Leicester were the new name in the 6 year cycle ?

Also two well know ex footballers lumped on the 5000/1 odds to win it.

Jon Moss was involved in almost half their games that season. Bit like Mr England with Arsenal.