Henry Nowak murder

Absolutely tragic, but it was a dynamic situation that nobody on here could say for certain what they would have done faced with the same set of circumstances.
This is insane.

A young boy is dying in front of you. Are you honestly saying you would ignore his cries for help and then handcuff him based on pretty much nothing?

What world do you live in, where you think that’s a choice someone should make?
 
“…not have died at that time” is in the CPS. If the any would-be prosecutor can prove the officers’ actions accelerated Henry’s death, they may get a conviction.

I’m not sat here saying it will happen and they’ll be successful, it’ll be tough to prove, but they’ve definitely got a chance.

Usually you have to prove that the actions caused the death, but there have been occasions of convictions based on bringing death quicker by actions.
He was stabbed in the heart ffs. He was dead within 3 minutes of the police turning up. There was nothing anyone could do, you could have Doogie Howser MD at the scene and he still would have died within 3 minutes.
 
He was stabbed in the heart ffs. He was dead within 3 minutes of the police turning up. There was nothing anyone could do, you could have Doogie Howser MD at the scene and he still would have died within 3 minutes.
Are you trying to defend there actions?

Someone gets stabbed and is dying and you think it’s ok for them to behave like that?

They clearly didn’t know he’d been stabbed in the chest either/ didn’t event attempt to check on him, despite his cries
 
He was stabbed in the heart ffs. He was dead within 3 minutes of the police turning up. There was nothing anyone could do, you could have Doogie Howser MD at the scene and he still would have died within 3 minutes.
He didn’t die within 3 minutes, he was unresponsive by that time, he likely died minutes after. There’s different factors in considering the acceleration of death, including the impact of dragging him, whilst not immediately providing aid.
 
In some sort of bastard parallel universe. Absolutely insane.
Some of the shit wrote on this thread is ridiculous.

An innocent boys just been stabbed to death and the police just left him to die. We now have some of the worst body cam footage seen, which shows how horrific the police acted.

Yet we have posters on here defending the police officers actions!

As you say parallel universe
 
He didn’t die within 3 minutes, he was unresponsive by that time, he likely died minutes after. There’s different factors in considering the acceleration of death, including the impact of dragging him, whilst not immediately providing aid.
Yeah right, he was dead, CPR was applied 3 minutes after the police turned up. That is a fact as it's in the report. He was dead by then there's no denying it or maybe this maybe thst. Its a medical fact.
 
He was stabbed in the heart ffs. He was dead within 3 minutes of the police turning up. There was nothing anyone could do, you could have Doogie Howser MD at the scene and he still would have died within 3 minutes.
They could've comforted him even if there was nothing they could do.
 
Some of the shit wrote on this thread is ridiculous.

An innocent boys just been stabbed to death and the police just left him to die. We now have some of the worst body cam footage seen, which shows how horrific the police acted.

Yet we have posters on here defending the police officers actions!

As you say parallel universe
I’m actually lost for words mate it’s friggin bonkers. Why are people trying to excuse it?
 
Are you trying to defend there actions?

Someone gets stabbed and is dying and you think it’s ok for them to behave like that?

They clearly didn’t know he’d been stabbed in the chest either/ didn’t event attempt to check on him, despite his cries
No just criticising some poster who is posting incorrect details
 
You are back tone policing again and it’s not helpful. Pretty much everyone who has seen that video is angry at what they saw. Telling them not to be doesn’t help, however much you think it does
The thread has already been cleaned up at least once.

People howling at each other is in no way helpful.

There are two positions, it seems to me. One is that they have convicted the police already and the other is to wait to pass judgement until the process has run its course.

The rest is just noise, just like in Southampton tonight.
 
He was stabbed in the heart ffs. He was dead within 3 minutes of the police turning up. There was nothing anyone could do, you could have Doogie Howser MD at the scene and he still would have died within 3 minutes.
I think it was the knife through his lung that did the most damage, how long did it take the police to arrive ? if the ambulance had been called instead. Admitted I don't think there was anything the police officers could do to have saved him the major issue is why they treated him the way they did what needs answering and pretty bloody quickly.
 
Yeah right, he was dead, CPR was applied 3 minutes after the police turned up. That is a fact as it's in the report. He was dead by then there's no denying it or maybe this maybe thst. Its a medical fact.
Where in the report does it state he died after 3 minutes of the police arrival?
 
The thread has already been cleaned up at least once.

People howling at each other is in no way helpful.

There are two positions, it seems to me. One is that they have already convicted the police already and the other is to wait to pass judgement until the porrocess has run its course.

The rest is just noise, just like in Southampton tonight.
I don’t agree at all and you seem to live in some parallel universe where only a police inquiry outcome allows people to be angry at what they’ve seen. It’s sterile and artificial.

BTW being angry at what happened doesn’t justify condone or encourage people to riot or create disorder. Farage et al using it for their ends is disgusting.

But anyone watching that footage can really only be angry at what they’ve seen.
 
I think it was the knife through his lung that did the most damage, how long did it take the police to arrive ? if the ambulance had been called instead. Admitted I don't think there was anything the police officers could do to have saved him the major issue is why they treated him the way they did what needs answering and pretty bloody quickly.
in what circumstance, other than the offender and his family actually telling the truth would an ambulance have been sent initially?
 

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